Hartley YDNA and the Time Tree

My last Blog on Hartley YDNA had to do with a Channon test. Channon has known Nutter ancestry and based on YDNA, he must have also had some Hartley ancestry in the past 400 years or so. At that time, the new YDNA Time Tree had not been updated. However, before I get to that, I will give some background.

Hartley YDNA Background

According to Mynamestats.com:

HARTLEY is ranked as the 1027th most popular family name in the United States with an estimated population of 37,550.

Accoring to Forebears.io:

Approximately 87,232 people bear this surname

That seems like a pretty exact number for an approximation.

However, not all branches of Hartleys are related in the genealogical time period. Here is my tribe of Hartleys on the YDNA tree:

Here 17 have tested for STRs or have done the BigY test. All are probably A11134 except for Mawdsley. Mawdsley is one branch upstream of Hartley which was before the genealogical time period. It is difficult to estimate the percentage of Hartleys that this branch represents. I will guess that we represent about 1/3 of the Hartleys worldwide, so roughly 30,000 Hartleys.  say this to suggest that these 16 YDNA tests represents 30,000 Hartleys or so or certainly tens of thousands.

The FTDNA YDNA Time Tree

Here is the current Hartley YDNA Time Tree:

At the top is a scale of years going from 500 to 2000 CE. The first tester is a Smith and the connection to Hartleys goes back to before the year 500 CE. The next is Mawdsley:

I assume that this time of 1170 CE is correct. However, only nobility would have had surnames at this time, so this would be considered to be before the genealogic:

al time period. The previous date given was 1174, so there has not been much of a change.

A11134

So far, it appears that A11134 and the Hartley surname are synonymous.

Prior to the Channon test, this date was 1471, so the fact that the date was pushed back 5 years is interesting but probably not significant. Hartley BigY testers Ethan, John and Steve are R-A11134. This is the general designation of the Tree that represents an estimated 25-30,000 Hartleys worldwide.

FT225247

This is the branch that my brother and I are in. It represents our father:

This has not changed which I suppose makes sense as our branch is independent of the Channon Branch. Interestingly, my father was born in 1918.

A16717

This is a branch of Hartleys who had the Quaker belief and moved from England to Pennsylvania ostensibly to get away from persecution in England.

This changed only one year from a previous 1684. I would tend to think that this SNP is actually older:

Assuming that Edward Hartley had this SNP, this SNP should be no new more recent than 1664. If his father or grandfather also had the SNP, that would move the date further back.

Channon and FTE2655

This test brought the Channon branch up from 1466 to 1905.

Here is the Block Tree:

This represents the 10 A11134 Hartley Branch BigY testers. I do not show up as the tree is from my viewpoint. For some reason my branch has 7 SNPs in it. Perhaps that will be important some day in figuring out my branch’s genealogy. The Channon Branch has two SNPs and the Quaker branch has one. A11134 has three SNPs but they will not likely be separated as they have not been separated so far.

Also the fact that my FT225247 Branch is later than the Channon Branch of FTE2655 may be because there are many more SNPs in my Branch (7) and fewer in the Channon Branch (2).

Here is the Match Time Tree:

Summary and Conclusions

  • The time tree update is the last piece of the new Channon BigY Test
  • The test gave Channon its own branch of the YDNA tree
  • FTDNA shows that there are 6 major Branches of the R-A11134 Hartley YDNA tree. Their common ancestor is still very early at an estimated date of 1466 CE.
  • It would be nice to find out what Hartley YDNA branching occurred in the 1700’s and 1800’s.

Here are some things going on in England in the 1400’s according to metmuseum.org:

At the start of the period, concurrent with the accession of Henry IV (r. 1399–1413), England’s first Lancastrian king, Great Britain and Ireland are rife with internal tensions, including Welsh revolt, a series of baronial rebellions led by the Percy family of Northumberland, and ongoing warfare among the Anglo-Irish nobility. In 1415, Henry V (r. 1413–22) renews the war with France that has continued, with interruptions, for nearly a century. His endeavors are temporarily successful, gaining large territories in France and securing his claim to the French throne. During the reign of his son Henry VI (1422–61; 1470–71), however, the English are expelled from France with the help of Joan of Arc, a French peasant girl, and political turmoil erupts at home when the king’s frequent illnesses place England in the hands of a Protector, Richard, duke of York. By the end of the fifteenth century, civil war between the Yorkists and Lancastrians seriously undermines the power of the monarchy and leaves the nobility fractured and vulnerable to the prevailing Tudor family.

 

Following My Father’s Cousin’s Recent Shared Matches

In my previous Blog, I looked at two of Joyce’s recent shared matches. I will continue on.

Angela and Joyce

Angela comes with a bonus:

It appears that Angela and Jaqueline should be fourth cousins to each other if this tree is correct. As this is the main line that I am interested in, I feel obgligated to look into the connection. This Hartley Line has been difficult to deal with.

Angela also has a Hartley on her maternal side which makes me skeptical. Here is Jaqueline’s Tree:

Here tree has a lot of John Hartleys, but I do not see James Hartley in her tree. I will take these two back to see if I can get them both to James Hartley born 1813. In the unlikely chance that happens, I will then look further back.

A Floating Tree for Angela

Angela’s grandparents lived in Barrowford in 1939 according to Angela’s tree:

Here is the family in 1921:

We are interested in Ann who was born in HIgham:

Here is the non-conformist wedding record at the Weslyan Chapel. Ann’s father was a farmer in 1871:

The marriage record shows Henry to be a widower:

As the marriage is in 1867, all three daughters listed in the 1871 Census must be from Christiana. So far, my research agrees with Angela and Jocye’s Thrulline.

Here is the family in 1861 in Higham:

Henry’s first wife is Jane. Henry is a shoemaker and father James is a shoemaker and farmer.

The 1851 Census has James born at Sagar Hill:

My guess is that Sagar HIll is part of HIgham.

Here is the Census for 1841 for Sagar HIll, Padiham:

I am not making a lot of sense of it.  I will Robert the same as Henry Robert in the 1851 Census? Is Dinah the wife of James or a daughter of John?  Is Robert the son of an unmarried daughter of John? Due to the vagueness of the Census, I would be willing to stop this line of pursuit for now.

I think that one problem is my tree:

 

Ancestry is trying to find mathes that fit my tree. However, I do not know if Robert Hartley’s parents were James Hartley and Betty Baldwin or not. I picked them because they seemed to fit. If I were to de-link James Hartley and Betty Baldwin from Robert Hartley, I may get other suggestions. I tried that and I will wait to see if I get other suggested ancestors.

I see that Angela went away when I took away the link between known Hartley ancestor Robert Hartley and what I thought may have been his parents:

Joyce and TJ

The Cowen or Cowing Line should be easier to trace. I see that TJ’s tree goes back to a Zenas Cowen:

I will assume that TJ had his maternal grandmother right. TJ also has this record:

Social Security is helpful here:

This gives a specific birth date and place. However, the father’s name is given as Joseph Tyson rather than Walter Butts.

In 1940, Patricia is living with her family on Collette Street, New Bedford. Patricia’s mother is shown as married but also the head of household. I think that the suggestion is that the Walter who was the lodger was the father of Patricia. Walter is still there in 1950, so I will go with that.

This is probably Walter in 1900:

Here is the birth record for James D Butts:

His mother, Polly Cowin was born in Dartmouth.

I see I already have Polly in my tree, so I will have to merge the two people:

However, I have this Polly as being the daughter of Zenas Cowen rather than Israel Cowen or Cowing. That means that this is another dead end.

Shared Matches with TJ and Joyce

One interesting thing is that Joyce and TJ have these two shared matches:

Perhaps the connection is on another line.

Summary and Conclusions

  • Usually I blog on success stories, but finding a proposed match is not as proposed is a success in a way.
  • In the first exercise, I decided to try a different tact by taking away the supposed parents of known Robert Hartley to see if Ancestry proposed someone else.
  • In the second exercise it appears that there is a connection, but the connection does not look to go back to Israel Cownen or Cowing.

 

Recent Common Ancestor Matches at Ancestry Part 2

I had good luck with my Part 1 Blog, so I will continue.

Joyce

Joyce is my father’s 1st cousin, so a good candidate for common ancestor matches. I will use two filters for maternal (Hartley side) and common ancestors. Then I will sort by most recent:

None of Joyce’s matches in this category are very new. However, I will take a look.

Thomas

I recently did an update on my Bearse ancestry. As all of Thomas’ ancestors are in white, that means that Thomas has been added to my Ancestry Tree.

Catherine

Catherine is the daughter of Lauri who also tested at Ancestry. I am surprised that I do not see these two on the DNA Tree for my great-grandparents:

Robert is the youngest, so he should be on the right. In addition, my great-grandparents had no son named John. I see that John is the son of Robert, so I will fix this.

I believe that the pinkish color means that Simone tested at 23andMe. Robert was born 20 years after my grandfather. Here is a photo of Robert:

Lori and Martin

Lori’s common ancestor shows as a paternal match to Joyce though the DNA says maternal, so I will ignore that one. Here is the suggested connection for Martin:

This is an old connection and will be difficult to substantiate. However, it is interesting as my immigrant ancestor, Greenwood PIlling apparently got his name from Mary Pilling’s father who was Greenwood PIlling.

Here is what I have on my Pilling Web Page:

If I have it right, Greenwood died tragically at the age of 23. I do show a son John.

I’ll add Martin to my Ancestry Tree as a floating tree.  Martin’s tree goes back to his Crabtree grandmother:

Martin’s father and grandparents were in Great Harwood in 1939:

However, I have ancestors from both Bacup nd Colne.

In 1901, the family is in Blackburn, but father James Crabtree was born in Bury (or possibly Burnely?). Other Census reports appear to confirm that it was Bury.

Here is a marriage record:

The marriage takes place in Haslingden:

They are perhaps older than average when marrying.

James’ father is listed as James, but this is crossed out and John is written in.

Here is James in 1891 at 330 Manchester Road which correlates exactly with his marriage record. This is where my research deviates with Anestry. James’ mother appears to be Esther, not Margaret. However, John is born in Colne which is interesting. I have also considered the Crabtree name as a possible ancestor in the past.

The family is in Salford in 1871:

The family is in North Bury in 1861:

Here are two records from one of my favorite web sites:

The best choice is the 1859 marriage. Note that it takes place in Bury and that John’s father is Joseph, the name of John’s first child.  This puts the couples’ birth at about 1834. This appears to be John’s baptismal record at a Wesleyan Church:

Here is the family in 1841 on Parilament Street in Colne:

The 1851 Census shows that all three were born in Colne:

Here is a marriage record:

This is likely the birth record for Joseph:

Here is Shawhead:

This is also interesting as some of my other DNA inspired genealogical research has lead me to this area.

Here are some likely parents:

Here is the likely family:

Unfortunately, I do not know where Heaton is. This may be Richard Crabtree:

Summary and Conclusions

  • One of the relatively recent Common Matches for Joyce lead me to cleaning up my Hartley/Snell DNA Tree
  • Another match purported to lead to my Pilling Line, but seemed to follow a Crabtree line to the area where my ancestors lived in Colne Parish, Lancashire
  • The Crabtree name has come up before and the area to the North of Colne (Foulridge) has come up. This could be coincidence, or I could be on to something. It is difficult to tell right now.

 

A New Hartley/Channon YDNA Branch Confirmed

In my previous Blog on the subject, there had been a new Hartley/Channon BigY test taken and completed, but the Branch result had not yet come out. I had made some predictions for fun to see how closely FTDNA’s final results  would match what I had.

Hartley Block Tree at FTDNA

Above, I have highlighted the Hartley Haplogroups inside a red box. The umbrella Hartley Haplogroup as I have it is A11134. The original Channon tester was in that group until very recently. Now we have Ethan, John, and Steve in that group. My group is FY225247. I am in the lower left of the Block Tree with my brother Jim. Next is A16717. This is a branch of Hartleys who moved to Pennsylvania around the year 1700 ostensibly to get away from  persecution in England as they were Quakers. Finally there is the brand new Haplogroup of FTE2655.

I believe that the date of A11132 goes back before the time of common surname usage. That means that Hartley and Mawdsley had the same ancestor but both branched off with different surnames before the time of surname usage. A11138 is certainly much older than when surnames were used. Smith is in that Haplogroup.

The Next Big Thing

The next thing to look forward to is an updated Time Tree. Here is the Match Time Tree which is not yet updated:

Oddly, Channon is not on the match list – perhaps due to the recent update.

  • A11138 appears to be a little before the year 500.
  • A11132 a little before the year 1200.
  • A11134 alittle before the year 1500
  • A16717 a little after the year 1500.
  • FT225247 should represent my father who was born in 1918

Hovering over the Haplogroups gives a more exact estimate. The exact estimates are:

  • 479
  • 1174
  • 1471
  • 1684
  • 1916

I am interested in seeing how the new Channon Branch changes the current Time Tree.

R-FTE2655

Here was my prediction for the new Hartley/Channon Branch:

I had predicted three SNPs in the new Branch. However, none of my predictions were FTE2655.

Here is FTE2544 at YBrowse;

I see, YBrowse has FTE2655 at the same location as Y16496. I did have that one.

I noted in m:y previous Blog that both Channon testers were positive for Y16496. However, now their Branch is called FTE2655:

Note the difference in that FTE2655 has a mutation of G to T where Y16496 has the mutation of G to A. My guess is that FTDNA wrongly reported the Channon testers as positive for Y16496. The manual review apparently caught the error and it was corrected. Here is a screen shot for the new Channon tester from my previous Blog:

See the mutation was from G to T for Y16496. However, that should have been the mutation for FTE2655.

Y364187 and FGC7804

I had predicted Y364187 which agrees with FTDNA. But I also predicted FGC7804. Here is FGC7804 at YBrowse:

This SNP was found by Full Genomes Corp in 2013. I also mentioned this SNP in a previous Blog I wrote for the first Channon’s BigY results. I cannot explain why FGC7804 is not one of Channon’s listed SNPs. I could write FTDNA and may get an answer. My guess is that the SNP is in some sort of ambiguous region.

Summary and Conclusions

  • At first at looked like my predictions for the new Channon/Hartley Branch were off. However, at second look it was based on an incorrect initial classification by FTDNA. This was apparently corrected in a subsequent manual review.
  • A second SNP I had predicted agreed with the FTDNA desidgnation
  • A third SNP that I had predicted did not appear on the FTDNA Channon Branch. I would have to write to FTDNA to find out why that was not included.
  • I am happy to see the new Branch of Hartleys and would be interested to see if the results make any changes to the existing Time Tree for the Harltey SNPs.

Joyce and Bearse ThruLines Part 2

In part one of my Blog, I did some genealogy on the early Bearse family of Barnstable, Massachusetts and went through Joyce’s first Bearse ThruLine.

My father’s first cousin Joyce and I descend from Olive Bearse. I did the ThruLine of Thomas in my previous Blog, now I’ll look at Beverly.

Is There a Bearse Connection Between Joyce and Beverly?

Beverly’s Ancestry Tree is confusing compared to her ThruLine:

Beverly’s Tree has her father as George Toner which does not make sense. However, the two trees agree on Beverly’s paternal grandmother who is Martha L Brown. Here is the 1880 Census for the Village of Hyannis:

I just need to get more information on Adaline. Her death record has more information:

Most people render Amasa as Amaziah. However, there are numerous renderings of his name:

I see a marriage record for the couple:

The vital records for the are seem to be thorough.

Amasa is listed at the bottom of the death records page for Barnstable for 1867:

However, no date is given.

His parents are Isaiah and Rachel:

So far, I have two more generations of Bearses than Beverly had for her tree:

This, apparently, is Isaiah, who died a widower. His age is given, but some other information is missing:

This puts his birth at about 1774 as he died at age 70 in 1844. However, Ancestry interprets his death to be in 1843.

Findagrave.com has his burial in the Universalist Cemetery:

Isaiah to Enoch

I need to evaluate the suggestion that agrees with the ThruLines suggestion. I have the advantage of checking from either side. I found a wife for Enoch:

They married in Barnstable.

I did find an interesting Will from Hannah Bearse spinster dated 1772. She mentions her two sisters Dinah and Mary Bearse. Also:

This suggests to me that Hannah is a sister of John Bearse. That would mean that those listed are most likely children of John Bearse. I also see that the names match up with Jocye’s ThruLines:

Joyce (and I) descend from Olive. My previous Blog looked at the Gershom Bearse connection. This Blog is looking at the Enoch connection. Martha and Rebecca mentioned in the will represent 8 additional ThruLines for Joyce. All this is interesting but it does not prove the relationship between Enoch and Isaiah.

I did find this reference:

This was from a 2020 edition of Mayflower Descendants. This Timothy has a son Enoch who dies in New Bedford at age 70 in 1873. I see a Lucy baptized? in 1794:

This appears to be Enoch’s death record:

This appears to be the Will for Enoch:

I read a lot concerning the papers of Enoch Bearse and it appears that he owed more than he had at the time of his death. Here is the dow. section:

Widow Elizabeth is mentioned. At this point, I’m ready to take the Geneanet reference:

Here I have added in the Enoch Line to my tree:

This probably makes the best sense, but I don’t know enough about the Bearse family to know that. I wish that I had more records between Enoch and Isaiah.

Bearse DNA Tree

This new tree adds Beverly’s Line:

Summary and Conclusions

  • I looked at the Thruline between Beverly and Joyce going back to John Bearse and Lumbert
  • The connection between Enoch and Isaiah lacked clear documentation, but seems likely
  • Unfortunately, Enoch died without leaving an estate larger than his debts, so children were not mentioned in his legal papers
  • Circumstantial evidence links Enoch and Isaiah and I saw no evidence that would contradict their relationship.
  • There are still some Bearse ThruLines to explore

 

Joyce and Bearse ThruLines

I have been looking at the ThruLines of Joyce who is my late father’s first cousin. While doing this, I have become more acquainted with some of my ancestors lines through the DNA of matching descendants.

Here are Joyce’s Bearse ThruLines:

I have that Joyce descends from Olive Bearse. Olive’s siblings in white are already in my Ancestry Tree. Then Joyce has 8 potential matches for siblings of Olive that are not in my tree.

Bearse Genealogy

The genealogy for this family goes back to 1888 with the Amos Otis Papers:

I descend from Joseph.

I descend from VI John., born in 1687.

I descend from John and Lydia Lumbert. If John married in 1746, he could have been born around 1720 or so.

John Bearse, born around 1720 and Lydia Lumbert are the ancestors that Joyces’ ThruLines descend from.

Joyce and Thomas

Interestingly, Joyce and Thomas have a shared match with Judith who is on the Martha Bearse ThruLines. So that is hopeful. Martha Bearse was not on my Ancestry Tree. That tells me that if Thomas connects, then it would make sense that Judith could also connect, but we’ll see.

Horace was born in Lincoln, Massachusetts and his mother checks out:

Georgiana was born in Boston. Her father Austin was a real estate agent:

Here is the record from findagrave.com for Austin Bearse:

Here is what I have so far:

I need to confirm the Eleazer H Bearse to Gershom Bearse connection. Gershom marries Prudence Hatch in 1771 according to the Falmouth records:

I see this hint an a history of Barnstable County;

From this account, I take it that Eleazer had a daughter named Martha A and that Eleazoer was the son of Gershom Bearse.

I see this in the Barnstable Town records:

I did find a marriage record between Gideon Hallet and Martha A Bearse.

A First Bearse DNA Tree

Here is a vertical view of my Ancestry Tree showing where I spliced in the new descendants of the Gershom Bearse Line:

I am happy to end the Blog here, but will likely continue with other Bearse ThruLines in a subsequent Blog.

Summary and Conclusions

  • I learned much about the Bearse family
  • I am amazed at how early Austin or Augustine Bearse came to Barnstable. This was 1639 according to his biography. That is not many years shy of 400 years ago.
  • The Hatch family name comes up in many of these families. In fact the name Prudence Hatch comes up in my ancestry and that of Thomas.
  • Austin Bearse born 1808 in Thomas’ line was an abolitionist

 

A New Channon/Hartley BigY Test

It is always exciting when a new BigY test shows up on your branch of the tree of mankind. Here is the new Channon test (from the viewpoint of my test):

This new Channon test is a brother of a previous test. He has done what I did with my brother in the first column. I had my brother tested, so we could get our own branch. Notice a few things above:

  • Smith is from a much earlier branch before. Smith and Hartley broke off before surnames were commonly used.
  • Mawdsley is also separate and likely split before or at about the time that surnames came into common use.
  • Channon is surrounded by other Hartleys. Channon can trace their genealogy to the Nutter surname, but must have been Hartley at some point.
  • It seems to me that Channon will have to have their own branch, but it does not show yet. Both Channon testers are shown initially in R-A11134.

The New Tester and Non-Matching Variants

Here is how the new tester matches some of the previous testers:

There are really three categories here. I show up later on the list as my branch has a lot of variants in it. So that means that there are more non-matching variants and my brother and I are further down on the list. First on the list is the previous Channon tester. These two have one non-matching variant. After that are the two other Hartleys who share A11134. The next three testers are in the R-A16717 Branch. These are a branch of Hartleys that emmigrated to Pennsylvania around the year 1700 or so.

Non-Matching Variant 5672076

One might wonder why the two brothers have a non-matching variant. There are a few reasons. One may be that one of the brothers has formed a new branch of the YDNA tree. Another reason could be that there was no or incomplete coverage for one of the two tests at location 5672076.

Here is the result for the new Channon Tester:

Here is the older Channon results:

That is interesting as the original Channon should form a new branch. However, FTDNA does not name a branch until another tests positive for this Branch. This would be a Private Variant for the original tester. However, it is possible to find this location’s SNP name at YBrowse:

The original tester should eventually be a part of this branch: Y354158.

Y16496

The first non-matching variant the new Channon tester has with the first Hartley on the non-matching list is Y16496. The new Channon tester has that SNP:

The first Hartley on the non-matching list does not have that SNP:

My guess is that this would be a new Channon Branch. The original Channon BigY tester is also positive for this SNP:

A Proposed Tree

It would be interesting to try to create a proposed tree. I have an old tree that I used previously:

This was probably accurate at the time.

I had also created this colorful tree to predict what would happen at FTDNA previously:

This was more in the format of the Block Tree that FTDNA uses. The above tree also accounts for Lawrence and Michael who are in what I call the Pennsylvania Branch of Hartleys. I like this format better. Here I have updated that tree to show what FTDNA has now (except for the private variants):

I am not sure how the new Block Tree should look, but this is how a simplified tree would look:

Unfortunately, I do not believe that FTDNA will put Channon ‘Old Test’ on his own branch. They will likely just give him one Private Variant if I understand the process correctly.

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Here is part of the New Channon Tester’s match list:

Here is that position for the new Channon tester:

He is clearly positive at this position.

Next, I check the new Channon tester for his closest Hartley match Ethan:

Ethan is clearly not positive for that Variant. Here is what YBrowse shows:

That modifies my SNP tree like this:

FGC7804

Using the same reasoning, It could be that FGC7804 is in the new Channon Branch. If this branching is so obvious, I don’t know why it doesn’t show up yet in the Block Tree at FTDNA. Perhaps they are waiting for a manual review.

New Channon Tester:

It is interesting that the new tester has two variants quite close to each other. However, the one I am interested in has the arrow on top of it.

Ethan:

Another reason the Block Tree may not have changed is that usually if a SNP is named, that means that it is already in a tree somewhere. So far, two of these SNPs have already been named for some reason.

This is my best bet at how the tree will look for Channon.

Summary and Conclusions

  • I am glad to see the results for the new Hartley BigY test. The test is from a Channon who has Nutter ancestry, but the testing shows that the family most certainly was a Hartley at some point in time – perhaps in the 1600’s.
  • The new tester did not match his brother in one of the variants. That means in this case that the older tester has formed a new branch and has a variant that his brother does not have.
  • It appears that the new Channon Branch should include three SNPs.
  • I will be interested to see the new branch come out at FTDNA and to see how this plays out in the FTDNA Time Trees.

 

 

Burbank ThruLines

My Burbank ancestors go back too far to be covered by my own ThruLines. However, my father’s cousin Joyce shows some ThruLines for Burbank:

This appears to be new territory to look at.

Here is part of my great-granmother’s maternal line:

It shows that Timothy Burbank was married to Mercy Kempton.

Some Burbank Genealogy

Apparently Timothy Burbank was born in Boston in 1703. However, he married in Plymouth.

I have that Timothy’s father was born in Haverhill and that his grandfather was from Rowley.

Joyce and Donna

Donna’s tree goes back to Mary Burbank which is hopeful:

Donna’s tree shows Mary dying in Canada:

Mayflower Births and Deaths has this entry:

This leads to Register 59 from 1905:

This shows a strong link at the top of the tree. I note that families left not because they were unsympathetic to the Revolution, but because they could get free land. I also read that residents of this area became unsympathetic to the Revolution after being raided by Americans.

Now I will start at the more recent part of the tree. Here is the birth record for Donna’s father:

Cape Negro Island is not too far from Yarmouth which I cut off on the map. Shirley’s father Wilford was a fisherman which makes sense given the location that they lived.

The 1901 Census says the family was Baptist, Scottish and the father was a blacksmith. His wife is 37 and he has a daughter who is 27, so that suggests that this was a second marriage.

I think the red on the map is Jordan River. Here is the widowed Albert Morton in 1881:

I found this at Ancestry which apparently refers to FamilySearch:

Albert Edward was born in Liverpool:

His parents were James Roland and Katy S.? (transcribed as F.). James was a mason. This James would be the son of the Lucy mentioned in the New England Historic and Genealogical Register (NEHGR) above.

At this point, I connect my floating tree of Donna into my main tree:

A First Burbank DNA/Genealogy Tree

In my mind, the fact that Donna’s Burbank moved to Nova Scotia before the Revolution makes this DNA connection more likely.

Joyce and Douglas

Douglas could help fill out my Burbank DNA/Genealogy Tree. The 1910 Census has Douglas’ grandfather a physician in Gloucester in 1910:

The fact that the grandfather was from Canada is hopeful. Douglas’ grandfather’s marriage record is helpful:

It gives his birth place and parents’ names. Here is Milton, near Liverpool, NS:

Here is the family in 1891:

Richard was a Congragationalist who was listed as farmer and huntman. So far the tree is going well:

Findagrave.com has this information:

This research on Thomas Knowles was found at Ancestry:

This document was also helpful:

Based on this, I accepted the parent hints at Ancestry:

From there, I added Elizabeth Crowell and linked Elizabeth Burbank to the Timothy Burbank I already had in my tree.

Here, the Burbank DNA/Genealogy Tree gets a little more width:

It turns out that Douglas has small DNA matches to two of my siblings.

Joyce and F.M.

The paternal side of FM’s tree is from Nova Scotia. I have had success so far with Joyce’s Burbank ThruLines. As usual, I start a floating tree for F.M. F.M. has a small tree at Ancestry:

Here is the family in 1921:

John was Scottish and the Town Clerk. However it is Mattie I am interested in.

Here is Mattie’s family in 1901 in Brooklyn, NS:

ThruLines wants me to go with Mattie’s mother Gertrude at this point and then Gertrude’s father. Gertrudes grave stone has her maiden name:

Gertrude’s father was a Baptist blacksmith:

Based on this, I’ll accept the Ancestry hint of Theodosius as Gertrude’s father.

Hannah Burbank

At this point, I look at the family from near the top of the ThruLines:

Hannah marries in Plymouth in 1758. That means that the above Theodosius must have been named for his grandfather. The easiest reference I can find to fill in the blank is this:

Adoriam Judson caught my eye. I assume that Theodosius was a fan of the missionary:

Next, I just need to connect John Ford to his parents in my tree and connect the floating tree.

Here is the big picture:

I am pretty confident with this DNA/Genealogy Tree. However, having said that, I realize that many from Colonial Massachusetts moved to this area. So other connections are possible. At this distant relationship, it would be extremely tedious to check out all possibilities.

Summary and Conclusions

  • It appears that all of Joyce’s Timothy Burbank ThruLines check out.
  • At first it appeared that these were the only possible connections. However, with the emmigration patterns from Massachusetts, there could be other connections. Still this is a good list. This is because my ancestor Lucy Burbank’s three siblings moved to this area in Nova Scotia
  • I had not known about this immigration pattern before, so it is interesting. I’m sure this move was meant to increase personal wealth – or so it seems.
  • It would interesting to check the actual DNA matches and where they occur. However, that is not possible with Ancestry. Ancestry is good with making genealogical connections but does not have Chromosome Browser.

My Father’s Cousin Joyce and Ancient Snell ThruLines

I have a pretty extensive DNA/Genealogy Chart for the Snell family already:

In this Blog, I’ll look at Joyce’s ThruLines through Samuel Snell born 1708 and Mary Head. Samuel Snell was a vintner and had a tavern for a while in Newport:

Joyce shows these Snell ThruLines:

My tree only includes brothers Anthony and Benjamin:

I’ll start in order:

These two should be easy. I alreaady have Charlotte’s sibling, so I can add her. O.T. lived not too far from me, so he should be easy also. I’ll start a floating tree for him. I used to teach Sunday School with O.T.’s daughter.

In 1910, the Tripp family lived on Rochester Road, Acushnet:

I knew the family on Perry Hill Road, so I wonder if the name of the Road changed.

Here is a marriage record for Frederick Tripp and Marcia Church Snell:

Her parents were Otis Snell and Mary Ann. That means that Otis Tripp’s name likely came from the Snell side. I realize that I already have O.T. in my Snell DNA/Genealogy Tree:

Our common ancestors are Otis Snell and Mary Ann Parker. This ThruLine is looking at a potential common ancestor three generations earlier. I am curious as to whether I am doubly related to O.T.

Frederick Tripp

What I need to find out is whether Mary Snell is the mother of Frederick Tripp:

Here is the marriage:

Apparently, Frederick who married Nancy was the son of William. It appeaers that he was also a Reverend:

findagrave.com has Frederick’s mother as Mary Snell:

It is beginning to look likely that the ThruLine back to Samuel Snell is correct. This shows the two ways that Joyce is related to Otis (O.T.):

I am one step down on this tree. So where Joyce is a third cousin to Otis, I am a third cousin once removed.

Joyce and Descendants of Pardon Snell

Joyce shows six matches to Pardon Snell descendants.

Joyce and Jane

Something seems off in my genealogy:

This shows Michael having children in his 60’s and 70’s.

I will start a floating tree for Jane. Jane has a tree with her two parents. I am looking at the paternal side based on her ThruLine. Here is the family in New Bedford in 1930:

The father, also Allen C. Ashley is a bus driver. However, ThruLines is directing me to Ida M. Here is Ida:

They get married in Portsmouth, NH. In Ida’s birth record, her father is said to be from Tiverton, R.I. That is a good sign.

The marriage record for Moses reveals that this was his second marriage:

Angles seems like a strange name. Having said that, genealogically speaking, it is a great name in that it is quite unique:

From Captain Angles’ death record, we get his parents names:

This appears to be Crawford’s burial record:

From this, it is not clear that Angle is a sone of Crawford and Sarah. However, he may just not be included in the list.

This list shows a Michael Crawford as the son of Pardon Snell.

Here I have merged the two Crawford Snells from my regular tree and my floating tree:

I started to delete the younger children. My guess is that I had the wrong Crawford married to Anna S. King. I’ll delete that family for now and add them back in later if I need to.

Next, I’ll add in the line to my Snell DNA/Genealogy Chart:

However, note that Jane’s father has Crapo as a middle name and Joyce and I also have Crapo ancestors. Further, Jane is said to have a DNA match on Joyce’s paternal side and I am related on Joyce’s maternal side. That makes this match off at least as proposed by the DNA. Nevertheless, the DNA assingment may also be off.

Regardless,, I think that the exercise has helped my straighten out the Snell genealogy some.

Summary and Conclusions

  • I started to udate the ThruLines through my father’s cousin Joyce going back to Samuel Snell born 1708 and his wife Mary Head
  • One relative was Otis who is also related on a closer line.
  • I spent some time connecting with Jane genealogically only to later realize that she shows as a DNA match on Joyce’s paternal side. I am related to Joyce on the maternal. Side. That means that the DNA match is either to a different connection, or the assignment of the DNA is incorrect.
  • I may further look at connections under Pardon Snell born 1747 and Job Snell in a subsequent Blog

Updating my Cowen/Cowing ThruLines

I last looked at these in November of 2023. Here is what I have as of then:

Seth Cowing and Penelope Crapo are my 5th great-grandparents. They were born in the first half of the 1700’s, so well into the colonial period of Massachusetts. Penealope descends from the White family which goes back to the Mayflower. I grew up in Rochester where Seth Cowing and Penelope Crapo were born, so this is local history for me.

My Cowen ThruLines

I do not see these three people on my chart. Israel marries in 1795:

I can go down from Israel or up from the three matches which is the more proper way. I am hoping that Charles fits into the Cowen line, so I will put him in my tree as a ‘floating tree’. That means that he will be unconnected until I find his connection. On Thelma’s wedding record, her parents are given as:

Unfortunately, Ancestry transcribes her father as a Gifford also, where the last name is omitted and assumed to be the same as Thelma’s (Butts). Here is my floating tree:

Ancestry is loading up my tree with hints. My ThruLines say to follow the Butts Line. Here is Earle’s marriage Record:

The person who married him had the first name of Hartley. Next, I shift ot Calvin Butts. He was a carpenter in New Bedford in 1900. Calvin is recorded in a book of births for New Bedford:

That gets the name back to Polly Cowing. At this point, it would be helpful to have a marriage record for Polly Cowing:

I did find a death record, but Polly’s parents are listed as Zenas and Mary. So I guess I won’t be adding Charles to by Cowen tree.

Sharon and Robert

My sister Sharon matches Robert;

I already have Shaun in my tree. I ruled out Dawn on the Seth Crapo Line. I assume I already evaluated Shaun, so it is safe to add in Robert:

I had noted on a previous Blog on Cowen ThruLines that Shaun is also related on my Hathaway side. This makes sense as Excperience Cowing married Joseph Hathaway on my line. That means that we don’t know whether the match is on the Cowing side or Hathaway side or both. I say it could be both as Sharon matches Robert in two different segments of DNA. Technically, the DNA could be from Cowing, Crapo, Hathaway or Hiller. It gets complicated as I am related to Hiller on the yellow chart above also.

Cousin Joyce’s Cowen ThruLines

I have been noticing a few of these lately.

Right now I only have one match under Jonathan Cowing, so let’s take a look at Joyce’s matches under Jonathan.

I already have Kristine on my tree, so Julie is an easy add.

It appears that Jonathan Cowen could have been a Quaker based on his burial place:

Here is some further information from findagrave.com:

This seems to fit in well with Joyce’s Cowen ThruLines.

Joyce and Coynert

It is time for a floating tree for coynert. Here is Annie or Anna living with her family on a farm in Mattapoiisett in 1870:

Here is the floating tree I came up with:

The assumption is that Eliza Hiller is the same as Eliza Cowing. Next I need to merge the two Elizas:

Next, I add the line to my Cowen DNA/Genealogy Tree:

Joyce and angiesmom

I already have Abner on my Ancestry Tree:

This looks like a sure bet. Still, I’ll create a floating tree for angiesmom. Angiesmom’s maternal side tree does have a Cowen:

Here is the family in 1950:

Here is the 1920 Census:

Here we see Everett R’s father who is also Everett R was born in Massachusetts. That is a good sign. Here is Everett on Cook Street in Fairhaven, Massachusetts in 1900:

His father, James was a tool maker:

Confusingly, James Cowen marries a Bowen:

This brings us back to Abner. I merge the two trees and I now have angiesmom line.

There is no guarantee that the DNA that Joyce and angiesmom share is from Seth Cowing or Penelope Crapo as I have not considered every line of both people where there may be other connections. However, it is possible and it is also interesting to see where the different lines of Cowen ended up.

Abner Pease Cowen Born 1825 Rochester

I came across this photo of Abner at Ancestry. Keep in mind that in 1825 Rochester included present day Marion, Mattapoisett and Rochester:

Joyce and Seth

I already have Frances and Helen on my yellow tree, so I will add Seth also.

The Cowen DNA/Genealogy Tree

This includes only one match from my father’s cousin Maury in the bottom left. It also does not show Maury on the right side of the chart. There are also many more Hartley relatives as my great-grandparents had 13 children. He has many more matches, but I will not look at them now:

However, I note that he does not have descendants of Polly Cowen which I determined were not right above.

Summary and Conclusions

  • Recent common ancestors shown under Joyce’s DNA matches resulted in me looking at some Seth Cowen Thrulines
  • I found one line that was not right. These were descendants of Polly Cowen. The confusion is probably that there were more than one Polly Cowen born around the same time.
  • I was able to expand my Cowne DNA/Genealogy Chart and see where some of the Seth Cowen descendants ended up living.