In my previous Blog, I looked at two of Joyce’s recent shared matches. I will continue on.
Angela and Joyce
Angela comes with a bonus:
It appears that Angela and Jaqueline should be fourth cousins to each other if this tree is correct. As this is the main line that I am interested in, I feel obgligated to look into the connection. This Hartley Line has been difficult to deal with.
Angela also has a Hartley on her maternal side which makes me skeptical. Here is Jaqueline’s Tree:
Here tree has a lot of John Hartleys, but I do not see James Hartley in her tree. I will take these two back to see if I can get them both to James Hartley born 1813. In the unlikely chance that happens, I will then look further back.
A Floating Tree for Angela
Angela’s grandparents lived in Barrowford in 1939 according to Angela’s tree:
Here is the family in 1921:
We are interested in Ann who was born in HIgham:
Here is the non-conformist wedding record at the Weslyan Chapel. Ann’s father was a farmer in 1871:
The marriage record shows Henry to be a widower:
As the marriage is in 1867, all three daughters listed in the 1871 Census must be from Christiana. So far, my research agrees with Angela and Jocye’s Thrulline.
Here is the family in 1861 in Higham:
Henry’s first wife is Jane. Henry is a shoemaker and father James is a shoemaker and farmer.
The 1851 Census has James born at Sagar Hill:
My guess is that Sagar HIll is part of HIgham.
Here is the Census for 1841 for Sagar HIll, Padiham:
I am not making a lot of sense of it. I will Robert the same as Henry Robert in the 1851 Census? Is Dinah the wife of James or a daughter of John? Is Robert the son of an unmarried daughter of John? Due to the vagueness of the Census, I would be willing to stop this line of pursuit for now.
I think that one problem is my tree:
Ancestry is trying to find mathes that fit my tree. However, I do not know if Robert Hartley’s parents were James Hartley and Betty Baldwin or not. I picked them because they seemed to fit. If I were to de-link James Hartley and Betty Baldwin from Robert Hartley, I may get other suggestions. I tried that and I will wait to see if I get other suggested ancestors.
I see that Angela went away when I took away the link between known Hartley ancestor Robert Hartley and what I thought may have been his parents:
Joyce and TJ
The Cowen or Cowing Line should be easier to trace. I see that TJ’s tree goes back to a Zenas Cowen:
I will assume that TJ had his maternal grandmother right. TJ also has this record:
Social Security is helpful here:
This gives a specific birth date and place. However, the father’s name is given as Joseph Tyson rather than Walter Butts.
In 1940, Patricia is living with her family on Collette Street, New Bedford. Patricia’s mother is shown as married but also the head of household. I think that the suggestion is that the Walter who was the lodger was the father of Patricia. Walter is still there in 1950, so I will go with that.
This is probably Walter in 1900:
Here is the birth record for James D Butts:
His mother, Polly Cowin was born in Dartmouth.
I see I already have Polly in my tree, so I will have to merge the two people:
However, I have this Polly as being the daughter of Zenas Cowen rather than Israel Cowen or Cowing. That means that this is another dead end.
Shared Matches with TJ and Joyce
One interesting thing is that Joyce and TJ have these two shared matches:
Perhaps the connection is on another line.
Summary and Conclusions
- Usually I blog on success stories, but finding a proposed match is not as proposed is a success in a way.
- In the first exercise, I decided to try a different tact by taking away the supposed parents of known Robert Hartley to see if Ancestry proposed someone else.
- In the second exercise it appears that there is a connection, but the connection does not look to go back to Israel Cownen or Cowing.