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Where DId My Bradford Ancestors Live in Massachusetts? Part 1 Hannah Born 1838

As we come upon the 400th anniversary of the Pilgrims, it strikes me that I’ve had ancestors living in Massachusetts all that time. I started working on where some of my Bradford ancestors lived here. This Blog will start to fill in some of the blanks.

Starting from My Most Recent Bradford Ancestor – Hannah T Bradford (1838-1889)

I don’t have a good photo of Hannah. She married Isaiah T Snell who is pictured here smoking a pipe:

Isaiah married Hannah Bradford in 1839 and Alice Besse in 1891. Depending on the date of this photo would depend if this is Hannah or not. I believe that this photo was taken from the Southern part of Snipatuit Road. Here is a map from 1879 showing where Isaiah and Hannah lived:

Isaiah’s father Otis sold him his house and Otis moved a little further North. Hannah and Isaiah probably moved to this house around 1868. Hannah died in 1889. At the time Hannah married in 1859, she was living in Wareham. Hannah was also born in Wareham to Harvey Bradford and Wealthy Hathaway.

Hannah in 1840

There will be some overlap here. Here is Hannah’s father Harvey Bradford, transcribed as Harry Brasford in the 1840 Wareham Census:

My thinking is that Harvey worked at an iron or nail factory in Wareham. Here is a transcription from FamilySearch:

For some reason, I would really like to know where the Bradford family lived in 1840. The assumption is that people who were enumerated near each other lived near each other. This should be the case more than not.

The key here seems to be that Harvey Bradford lived near Thomas Pierce. In 1850, there was a Thomas Pierce in the Census:

Thomas was 54 and was living near a Weghtinton and a Whitterman.

Here is Thomas in 1855 which is near the time of the 1857 Plymouth County Map:

He was a laborer, but these were the occupations of the people around him: farmer, miller and nailor. I can’t make out one of the occupations – probably an iron worker. Here is where I think that was in 1857:

On the left at the house of R. Hathaway is where Harvey’s wife Wealthy Hathaway grew up in Rochester. There were many iron works in the area. T Pierce on the map is probably Thomas PIerce and R Wrightington is probably the Richard Wrightington of the 1855 Census or Weghtington of the 1850 Census. Richard was a miller – likely at the nearby Grist Mill. Harvey may have worked the place marked as “Nail Mfy. & Grist M.” on what is now Paper MIll Road.

Here is  the 1840 Census summary:

This shows one person worked in agriculture and one in manufacture and trade. Wealthy had two small children at the time. Did she work in manufacture or did Harvey? I think that Wealthy’s father was a farmer, so perhaps she worked a farm and had the kids with her, or was it the other way around? Henry C Bradford was listed as a nailor in 1850 at age 17, so perhaps he followed in his father’s footsteps.

Papermill Road

Pierce and Wrightington are shown on what is today Papermill Road in Wareham.

This puts Harvey Bradford and family somewhere in the vicinity of the intersection of Papermill Road and Main Street.

A Wrightington/Taber Connection?

In 1850, there was a Cyrus Taber living in the house of Richard Wightington, the miller. This Cyrus was a sailor:

As opposed to two others in the household who were nailors. This Cyrus was apparently born about 1824. I note this because Henry C Bradford, the brother of Hannah Bradford married Rhoda Ann Taber believed to be born in Fairhaven in 1838. She was also believed to be the daughter of Cyrus Taber and Patience Votar.

Travel down the railroad tracks a few stops to Fairhaven in 1850:

Here is a household headed up by Samuel Taber. Henry Bradford’s future wife Rhoda is living there along with two other Cyruses. Also two of the Tabers are Mariners. Patience Taber is listed as having a nervous derangement. Are we confused yet? The 1850 Census didn’t give family relationships.

Adelaide Taber

Adelaide from Robert the Miller or ironworker’s (or sailor in 1860) house. She ends up marrying a 62 year old carpenter in 1877:

Her mother is given as Ruhamah D Taber:

Further down on the same page of marriage records:

Rhoda Bradford (originally Taber) marries William. This is his second marriage also. So Adelaide was Ruhamah’s daughter. Ruhamah then apparently marries Richard Wrightington:

I think I’m getting into some complicated stuff. Adelaide says she was born in Wareham.

Cyrus Taber Born About 1824

Cyrus dies single in Wareham in 1885:

However, his mother is ‘Rheuhama’ Hathaway. So now I need to amend my story. Ruhama Hathaway must have married Cyrus Taber and had at least two children. She then marries Richard the Miller. So not as wild as it originally looked.

Cyrus Taber the Elder

There are some court records of Cyrus:

There is no date on this, but it is listed between an 1820 and 1822 case.

I assume that Cyrus the elder was around at least until 1839 when daughter Adalaide was born.

Ruhama Hathaway Born 1801

Turns out I already have her in my family tree:

Ruhama had Hathaway’s on both sides. I descend from Simon Hathaway who was also a son of Arthur Hathaway.

The Fairhaven Tabers

Samuel Taber Born About 1787

I’m hoping I can tie the Wareham and Fairhaven families together somehow. Fortunately Samuel remarries:

We learn his father’s name at least. These two families are not coming together that easily.

Cyrus Taber, Mariner, Born About 1810

I found 10 trees at Ancestry for Cyrus and they all give Samuel as his father. Samuel’s parents were Amos Taber and Deborah Hammonds. It looks like I am unable to make an easy connection between the Taber’s of Wareham and the Taber’s of Fairhaven even though there is a Cyrus Taber in each of the two families.

The Wrightington/Hathaway Connection

It looks like there was more of a Wrightington/Hathaway connection. In fact, there could be a story here. Ruhamah Hathaway born 1801 was originally the wife of Cyrus Taber the blacksmith from Wareham and Middleborough. He apparently dies and Ruhamah marries Richard Wrightington probably sometime in the 1840’s. Harvey Bradford is living next to or near Richard Wrightington in 1840. Perhaps he worked with Richard or for him at that time and/or prior to this time.Harvey marries Wealthy Hathaway who is a second cousin to Ruhamah.

Summary of Hannah T Bradford Snell’s Living Places

I have that Hannah was born in Rochester in 1838. This is based on her death record. A court case from 1835 names Hannah’s parents Harvey and Wealthy Bradford as being of Rochester.

Apparently, the family moved back and forth. I believe that Harvey worked in the nail or iron business in Wareham. Wealthy’s father Joseph Hathaway had died in 1815, so it may be that they lived for a time with Wealthy’s mothder at the Hathaway house. Or it is possible that Harvey helped work the Hathaway farm at this time.

In 1840, the Census has the family in Wareham. Based on my look above, they could have lived in the area of Paper Mill Road and Main Street. Wareham. They possibly lived near Richard Wrightington who at different times was listed as a miller, an iron worker or a mariner.

Harvey’s death was listed as being in Rochester, but this was based on his burial at Sherman Cemetery.

G.R. 7 is the Sherman Cemetery. Another possibility is that Harvey could have been buried elsewhere but a monument erected at this cemetery later. Hannah would have only been about 2 at the time of her father’s death if I have her birth correct.

In 1850, when Hannah was 11, she was living in Rochester. This was probably the High Street Hathaway House:

Hannah was living with her brother, mother, single Aunt Priscilla and grandmother Experience Cowing Hathaway. Here is says that Hannah was born in Wareham, so this is different than what I said above.

Hannah’s grandmother Experience died in March 1855. At the time of the 1855 Massachusetts Census taken on 20 September 1855, Hannah and her mother Wealthy were living with Mercy Snow.

In 1850, Mercy Snow was living at the house of Nicholas Snow, so this is likely the same house. Nicholas was likely her brother. Mercy was the single daughter of Nicholas Snow and Hannah Dexter.

In 1859, 20 year old Hannah marries. She and her mother are with Isaiah Snell in 1860:

The Census was taken on July 7, 1860. On July 15th, Otis Harvey Snell is born. Isaiah is listed between Gammons and Rounseville, so if the enumeration was taken in order, the family should have been living on Rounseville Road:

Isaiah appears to be listed as a shoe maker.

In 1865, Hannah may have been living in the same place. My records seem to indicate that Isaiah bought his father’s house in 1868, but I may be off. It appears that Hannah and Isaiah moved out of the house they were in because I still see Lydia Pierce and John King between Rounseville and Gammons. I’ve taken the 1865 Census and put the number of enumeration next to the house when I could identify it. I assumed, based on the numbering that Otis Snell was still living at Snipatuit Road:

One interesting thing was that I saw Henry Bradford, Hannah’s brother enumerated between family 16 and 18. That would put them possibly in the house listed as J.L. Braley. I listed Blackmer wrong as 34. That should be 35. That could mean that Hannah and Isaiah were living in the Bolles house or in the area. However, I didn’t identify families 37-41 on the map. These were:

  • Roxana Ashley (B Ashley on the map?)
  • Samuel B Staples, Wheelwright
  • Paul Ricketson, Farmer
  • William F Sherman, Mariner
  • Abraham Spooner, Laborer

By 1870, the family was definitely in the house that Otis Snell used to own. Ironically, Otis bought the Snow house where Hannah was living in 1855:

The above is from an 1879 map. E.M. Bumpas, blacksmith is enumerated next to the Isaiah Snell family in the 1870 and 1880 Censuses. Hannah died in 1889. I assume at the above location.

Summary and Conclusions

  • It is a little difficult to figure out where ancestors lived, but it can be rewarding
  • If an ancestor owned their land, that land may be traced through the Registry of Deeds. If not, there is some more guessing involved. The use of the census plus maps helps in that case.
  • Finding where an ancestor lived is helpful for the genealogy. It also adds color to the life and may bring about connections or lead to more information.
  • While looking for where Hannah Bradford lived, I found a clue to where her brother Henry Bradford may have lived.
  • After moving about in her early life quite a bit perhaps due to her father’s early death, Hannah settled down to the South part of Snipatuit Road once she married.

 

 

 

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My Father’s Cousins’ Ancestry Thru-Lines: Part 2 – Bradford

I would like to look at my father’s cousin Joyce’s Bradford Thrulines. Our most recent Bradford ancestor was Hannah T Snell:

Hannah was born in Wareham in 1838 and married Isaiah Snell. This family lived in Rochester, MA where I grew up. The DNA that Joyce shares with these people is half Snell and half Bradford.

Harvey Bradford ThruLines

Harvey was born about 1808 in Plymouth, MA:

Harvey only had two children. Patricia is my second cousin on another line. These relationships are fairly close, so no evealuation is needed.

Samuel Bradford 1755

By the third set of Bradford ThruLines, we are already back to 1755. Harvey was the youngest son of Samuel. Samuel is important as the link between him and Harvey is weak. There is no known birth record for Harvey. Harvey is linked to Samuel through land records.

Robert and Joyce have a 9 cM match. In the expanded view, Ancestry is suggesting I evaluate Robert’s mother and grandfather:

The link between Barbara and her son would be a little difficult to prove. I assume he knew who his mother was. He and his brother are mentioned in an obituary. Barbara is listed as 11 months old in the 1920 Worcester, MA Census:

That is a little at odds with her posted birth of 1917. Here is her birth record:

This also shows that her father was born in Boston:

Oscar Bradford

Someone helped me out by saving this record:

This shows Oscar’s father as Alexander O Bradford. Here is the family on Washington Street, Boston in 1900:

I like how someone did a great job researching this family:

Here is Alexander the father in 1870 in Cambridge:

Too bad all my research isn’t this easy:

Now we have a middle initial and are getting back to Stephen Bradford and Hannah as parents to Alexander.

Here is Alexander W in 1850 in Duxbury:

Stephen Bradford was a cooper. I believe that Stephen’s father Samuel took over his father-in-law Stephen Churchill’s cooper business. So then he likely passed it down to his son Stephen. Here is a record I transcribed:

So easy with all the research others have done. As I mentioned above, Stephen is very important as being the brother of my ancestor Harvey Bradford. Here is some information I already had for Stephen on my own tree:

That confirms the ThruLInes between Joyce and Robert. The genealogy holds together. The DNA adds evidence that nothing got messed up along the way.

I should note that my cousin has a competing ThruLine that traces the lineage up through Harvey Stetson Bradford. I will probably look at that at some time.

Heading Up a Level to Josiah Bradford Born 1724

This is interesting:

Joyce shows 2 DNA matches through William Bradford and 10 DNA matches through an additional Samuel Bradford. That sounds confusing. That implies to me that 10 people got their genealogy wrong or that Joyce matches 10 people that descend from a different Samuel and Ancestry connected the trees in the wrong way (or perhaps a combination of the two).

Starting with William Bradford Born 1749

This looks like the easy part:

This shows that Liz is and Michael are 2nd cousins to each other and that they both match Joyce. Liz and Michael share a common ancestor of Josiah Bradford with Joyce. Ancestry would like me to evaluate these two lines. I’ll start with Liz and create my own tree for her:

Above is the family in Colleton, South Carolina. I’ve got to get them back to Bradford in Massachusetts. Richard’s mom above is supposed to be a Bradford. Here they are in 1880:

According to this Census, both of Amanda’s parents were born in South Carolina. That’s OK, it is still a while to get back to 1724. Here Richard is transcribed as Harven. I suppose for his middle initial.

Amanda’s death certificate is important as it gets us back to Bradford and Plymouth, MA:

That means that the 1880 Census was probably not correct.

Here is the 1850 Census – still in Colleton, S.C.:

So apparently Jesse was the one making the jump from Massachusetts to South Carolina. I wonder where that put the children during the Civil War?

Here is a flowery obituary for Jesse:

Jesse Bradford Born 1790 and Maria

The tree that Liz created has Maria as a Thornton. An Ancestry suggestion has her as Lovell:

I think that I would tend to go with this record, but it doesn’t really matter as I’m trying to find out more about Jesse.

Here is where I have Jesse on my Ancestry Tree:

This is the information for William Bradford born 1749 in Plymouth. William was the brother of Samuel Bradford, my ancestor. The bad news is that there is not a lot of information out there about Jesse. The good news is that the DNA matches give supporting evidence for the trees that we do have.

Michael’s ThruLines

Michael’s tree is not as extensive as Liz’s tree:

The 1910 Census joins Frampton with the Liz’s Wichman family above:

Now, the Other Samuel Descendants on the ThruLines

It turns out that the other descendants, I already know about. They descend either from my great-grandmother Annie Snell Hartley or one generation back. The Mayflower Families, which is one of the best resources for Bradford genealogy, has no birth date for Samuel Bradford. So differences in his birth date would be expected. In either case, he is still the son of Josiah Bradford and Hannah Rider.

ThruLines to William Bradford Born 1686

Now this is going out a ways. But let’s try it:

This shows as two matches for Joyce, but really amounts to one. CH is related more closely through Hannah Bradford. It is just spelled differently in his tree. I’ll try PK’s tree. PK’s tree goes up to Mary Bradford:

I’m not sure if the DNA test goes with the daughter or granddaughter of Prescott. From the ThruLines, it looks like the daughter. This Thru-Line would also support that my line goes up through Harvey to Samuel to Josiah to William Bradford. The ThruLines shows PK as a half 6th cousin. Ancestry doesn’t always get the half relations right, so I’ll check that out also.

I get a bit stuck before 1860 with my own tree:

Here is Charles and his mother in Boston. The father is presumed dead by this time. One tree had this reference:

That same tree has reference to an Averill Family Genealogy Book:

Here is more from the same book:

Here is some more on Daniel Averill from that book:

The section on Daniel mentions no Mary Gardner and no Charles Averill born in Boston. In fact all these children of Daniel are born in New Hampshire. PK’s tree has Charles born in 1845 to a Daniel who was born 1762. That would make Daniel quite old at Charles’ birth. 83? I’ll pull the plug on this ThruLine. There may be a connection, but I don’t see it right now. Another way to look at it is from the top down. William Bradford born 1686 had a son William born 1726, but he died the same year according to the Mayflower Families Through Five Generations.

My Father’s Cousin’s Harvey Stetson Bradford ThruLines

I had mentioned above that my second cousin shows different ThruLines for the same ancestors. I would like to look at this. There are only two Harvey Bradford’s that could be our ancestors. I have one and she has the other. I think mine is right, so I would like to disprove hers.

Here Holly has her line going up through her father Maury to Harvey to Charles Bradford. In the ThruLines I looked at earlier in the Blog, I had this:

That means that they can’t both be right.

My guess in the match between Maury and David is that David’s tree may be right but Holly’s may be wrong. Here is David’s tree in more detail:

For some reason, both trees go through Harvey S Bradford. David’s actual tree stops at Anna Maria Bradford:

Ancestry put the rest together.

A Tale of Two Harvey Bradford’s

Findagrave.com has this information for Harvey Stetson Bradford:

Here is some more on Harvey Stetson Bradford:

Another cousin took this photo:

This is from the Sherman Cemetery in Rochester, MA:

It appears that both these Harvey Bradford’s were born in 1809. Hence the confusion. However, one was buried in Illinois and the other in Rochester, MA.

So I have proven that Harvey Stetson Bradford was not my ancestor. I still don’t know if David above descends from either Harvey. However, as my ancestor only had two children (Henry Clay and Hannah Thomas), I would say that David did not descend from my ancestor Harvey Bradford:

Summary and Conclusions

  • The most important ThruLine I looked at was between Joyce and Robert. They show a DNA match and a common ancestor with Samuel Bradford (born about 1755) who was the father of Stephen on Robert’s side and Harvey on Joyce’s side.
  • It was easy to show the connection from Robert up to Stephen and Samuel based on research that had already been done.
  • I tried to connect Joyce to PK who showed a potential common ancestor in William Bradford born 1686. However, I found too many problems with PK’s tree to make that connection.
  • Finally I looked at Thrulines connecting another of my father’s cousins Maury to David. This showed ancestry to Harvey Stetson Bradford. But I showed that that Harvey Stetson Bradford was not my anctestor. There were two Harvey’s born in 1809. Harvey Stetson Bradford was born in Maine and died in Illinois. My ancestor Harvey (not Stetson) Bradford was Born in Wareham, MA and buried in Rochester, MA.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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My Father’s Cousin Joyce’s Hartley Ancestry Thru-Lines: Part 1 – A Baldwin Leads to a Shackleton

I have been looking recently at Ancestry’s Thru-Lines. These include ancestral connections suggested by family trees and DNA matches. My father’s cousin is Joyce and she matches me on her maternal side:

So that is the side I am most interested in right now. Then I am more interested in Joyce’s maternal grandfather James Hartley’s side as that side is less defined than the Snell side.

Here are the ancestors of James Hartley born 1862 in Bacup, Lancashire, England:

Joyce’s Thru-Line suggestions start at her fourth great-grandparent level which is represented by the last column on the right above. However, I am not convinced of all the people that are already in that column – especially John Hartley, Anne Bracewell, Nathaniel Baldwin and Margreatt Baldwin. Part of the reason I’m not convinced of them is that I’m not totally convinced I have their children right: James Hartley and Betty Baldwin. They were just my best guesses.

James Hartley 1763 Thru-Lines

Ancestry shows the Thru-Lines for James Hartley incorrectly:

Joyce does match Ruth by DNA but John Pilling was likely not the father of John Pilling. John’s father was Mary Pilling who later married Robert Hartley. That would make Joyce and Ruth 1/2 3rd cousins once removed. The Thru-Lines for Mary Pilling is half right:

Richard is shown as a half relative which is right, but Ruth is shown as a full relative which is wrong.

Baldwin Thru-Lines

It would be interesting to look at the Baldwin Thru-Lines as Betty  Baldwin was a best guess that I made years ago for an ancestor. If I have the right ancestor, she was born in Bradley:

This appears the same Betty Baldwin that I picked to be Robert Hartley’s mother. She was born in Bradley. Here is Bradley at the orange circle below. Turns out that Nelson which didn’t used to exist grew up around it:

My thinking is, that if we can show a DNA match to the right Baldwin family, that would lend credence to my guess that I descend from Betty Baldwin.

Here are the Nathaniel Baldwin ThruLines:

My 2nd cousin Holly should be in the first column with Joyce. Let’s look at the two DNA matches on the right. It will be important to evaluate them:

Marilyn and Steve both match Joyce. Let’s look to see if their genealogy matches with what I think mine could be. When I click on the child of Nathaniel Baldwin, it goes to a site that has many trees managed by Helen. The first tree has over 50,000 people in it. I’ll look at that one. Here is part of her big tree:

Unfortunately, her daughter of Nathaniel is listed as private. Nathaniel’s wife is Margaret, so that matches with the birth record I had for my Betty Baldwin. Next, I have to look for a marriage for James Farrar. Here is one:

Here we have some competition for Betty. If this was the same Betty born in 1771, then she would have been 21 at the time of her wedding to James Farrar.  How do we reconcile that marriage with this one?

This is 9 years later, so if this was the same Betty Baldwin, she would be 30. There seems to be a few possibilities:

  • This Betty married twice, but wouldn’t she then be a widow rather than a spinster the second time?
  • These were two different Betty’s

My guess was that this could have been James and Betty living in a section of Trawden called Hole in 1841:

Now, I don’t know if this James and Betty are the parents of my Robert, or if they are another James and Betty. Dates for the 1841 were rounded up to the nearest 5 years. So if this is the same couple that got married in 1801, they would have been at the oldest 39 and 29. If this was a 70 year old Betty Baldwin in Hole in 1841, then that could fit in with her birth in 1771. That would mean that James Hartley would be between 76 and 80 at the time of the 1841 Census and would hae been born between about 1761 and 1765.

There were about four James Hartley’s baptized in the Parish of Colne between 1761 and 1765:

Ollin Hall is interesting because the family did live in the Hollin Hall area of Trawden. However, this was an Inghamite baptism. As far as I know, my Hartley ancestors were baptized at the Church of England.

A Few Maps

Here is a map showing Hole (near the bottom of the map), where a James and Betty Hartley lived in 1841:

In 1837, it appears that Mary Pilling (now Hartley) was living in Slack Booth:

 

If I read Mary’s baptismal record correctly, her Pilling parents were from Seghole:

The James Hartley from the 1841 Census is probably this James:

That would have this James born around 1863, which would most likely be the son of John and Anne Hartley born 1863. Here is a more original version of the burial record:

This is Little Lathe, which I take to be also Laith. Here is Little Laith:

Here is a confusing burial from 1840, a year before the 1841 Census:

This has Betty Hartley from a Hole House dying in that year. If she died in 1840, how is it that she appears to be living in 1841? Perhaps after she died, another Hartley relative named Betty came to live at the house to help out? At any rate, this Betty Hartley, if this was correct age, would have been born about 1775.

Next, I check out Little Laithe in 1841. It turns out that there was a different James Hartley living there:

Hartley’s, Hartley’s everywhere. This James was a little younger than the one at Hole.

Back to the ThruLines

I tried going from the top of the tree down – which is usually a bad idea. I’ll try the other way. I’ll try building a tree for Marilyn and Nellie Farrer. Nellie’s dad was Ernest. When he came to Ellis Island, the ship record listed his home as Accrington. Here he is in Accrington in 1901 at age 16:

Of interest here, Ernest’s mother was born in Colne.

She was a Foulds which I recognize as a Colne name. Here is the marriage record from Accrington:

I’m already back to the 1840’s:

Here is Alice in 1851 in what looks like Call in Great Marsden:

Alice’s mother was Alice Kippax:

One tree at Ancestry suggests that Alice’s grandmother was a Shackleton:

That is a name that is in my ancestry:

Henry Farrer Born 1847

The 1901 Census had Henry born in Brierfield. It turns out that this is not too far from Colne:

This appears to be Henry in 1861:

His widowed mother Christiana is heading the household. Henry is shown born in Marsden. His older brother is a railway porter. In 1901 Henry worked on the railway. In 1871, Henry was a railway engine fireman living in Colne:

Now I am starting to get stuck, because the tree suggestions for Henry give his mother as Sarah Greenwood – not Christiana:

If Sarah was the mother of Henry, she would have been about 51 when he was born. Here is some more information:

This clearly gives Henry’s father as Joseph. This must be Joseph’s marriage record:

This branch does not appear to bring me to Colne right now. Here is Deane and Over Hulton in relationship to Manchester:

This is likely Richard Farrar’s marriage record:

So my tree seems to go against the suggested trees at Ancestry. Here is Marilyn’s maternal side:

My guess so far, is that Joyce could be related to Marilyn on the Foulds branch. Hopefully the connection is not non Marilyn’s paternal side or on her maternal grandmother Bentley’s side.

Back to James Foulds

One of the trees above had John Foulds and Mary Shackleton for James’ parents:

Here we even have a Hartley as a witness. Here is the entry for James:

James was born in August of 1796 and baptized 22 January 1897. This is possibly Mary Shackleton:

Notice that there was a death of a Mary Shackleton less than a year before this baptism. Here is what I have so far:

Here is my tree for comparison:

There is a potential that Mary Shackelton born 1764 could be the sister of Nancy Shackleton born 1781. It looks like my tree could use some work:

I have Elizabeth born after both her parents died, so that can’t be right.

I also have that she was born in Hey Thorn. I don’t know where that is, but Hey is likely in Foulridge:

Bsaed on this exercise, I’ll take Elizabeth Shackelton out of my tree.

Also there was more than one John and Mary Shackleton, so that was confusing. On my Shackleton web site I have:

Very little is known about this family other than the father was a weaver. This family is not to be confused with the John and Mary Shackleton of Pasture. This John was a gentleman. He had 2 daughters that died fairly young with no children. According to Dennis Cairns, “Pasture House which is situated between Barrowford and the village of Roughlee. Our Shackletons lived at Pasture Meadow which is to the South of Trawden and Southweast of Hollin Hall.

Here is Pasture House:

Barrowford is to the West of Colne. Here is Pasture Springs:

I have that my John Shackleton died at Stone Edge, but that appears to be near Barrowford, so I may have the wrong person. Here is Pasture House in relation to Stone Edge:

Here is the 7 September 1788 will for this Gentleman John:

Will of John Shackleton of Pasture House, gent. — messuages called Stone Edge, Upper Lands or Burnt House and New House, and cottages called New Houses, all in Barrowford, with other specified properties there, to Trustees for daughter Jennet. To daughter Mary messuage called Fidling Clough in Thornton, co.York; also £1000. Pasture House, Whitticroft and other specifeid properties in Barrowford and Colne, to trustees for wife Mary for life, then to daughter Jennet, subject to annuity to mother-in-law Margaret Cowgill. To wife messuage in Thornton called Windle Field, and messuage in Kildwick, co. York, for life, then to daughter Mary. Etc. (Copy-)

Here is Jennet:

This must be daughter Mary:

Here is an excerpt from a book, Man’s Estate: Landed Gentry Masculinities, 1660-1900:

This book mentions John’s father and second wife, but not his two daughters. Here is John, son of Christopher:

All this shows, that the John I have in my tree is wrong:

 

Perhaps this marriage has a hint:

I don’t know if this helps or makes things more confusing. I had that Richard Farrar was the father of Joseph Farrar above, but that was on a different line. This could be the John of Pasture House:

The John may be the John of the marriage above, but that would make him only about 19 at the time of marriage.

This appears to represent three different branches of Shackelton:

Here is Park Hill:

I have noted Salter Syke above. Wicoller is part of Trawden, so more likely related to my branch of Shackleton. Also note the spelling is a bit different.

Just to confuse things further, a John Shackleton from Heptonstall married someone from Great Marsden. Let’s hope he moved back to Heptonstall:

Summary So Far

First, I showed that my connection to Marilyn’s ThruLines was not through my supposed Baldwin ancestor. Instead, it could be that the connection could be on my Shackleton side. Along the way, I ruled out the birth and death of my ancestor John Shackelton as that pair of birth and death dates belonged to another John Shackelton. That means that means that Christopher should also not be on my tree:

So that makes it interesting that Nicholas and Joyce show a ThruLine based in Christopher Shackelton:

Here is Nicholas’ tree:

Again, Ancestry wants me to evaluate Nicholas’ tree. Nicholas has his ancestor from Kirkby, Malham near Skipton, Yorkshire:

I think I’ll skip Nicholas for now as I don’t think my Christopher is right.

Summary and Conclusions

  • I went through an exhausting review of Marilyn’s tree to see if her supposed Baldwin line matched with my supposed Baldwin Line
  • I was unable to get Marilyn back to Baldwin
  • I was able to find a Shackleton in Marilyn’s line who lived in the area where my Shackleton ancestor lived.
  • I also was able to refine my Shackleton Line. Through additional research, I was able to separate a different more famous Shackleton Line from mine.
  • I found an additional ThruLine for Joyce with an erroneous Shackleton ancestor I had in my tree and decided not to follow that up.
  • ThruLines were helpful in correcting errors in my tree in this case.
  • There may still be a connection between Marilyn and Joyce on the Shackleton Line.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hartley R-A11132 YDNA and Genealogy

I was contacted recently by the wife of a distant Hartley relative. There are many different tribes of Hartley’s as identified by their YDNA types. This Hartley is from my tribe. My previous update on Hartley YDNA is here. She was interested in my Hartley genealogy and I in hers. My thought was to look at the Hartley’s that are in our particular group as tested by YDNA and check out their genealogy. Then I can compare the genealogy to see where the oldest group of Hartleys in our YDNA group came from.

My Hartley YDNA – R-A11132

I have tested my YDNA using the BIg Y test which is now a bit outdated. The old test I took is now called the Big Y-500 and the new test is the Big Y-700. My testing in conjunction with one other Big Y Hartley tester has put my branch at R-A111132.

Most Hartley’s are R1b:

However, that only gets us to about 25,000 years ago, so not as helpful as you might think. In the past 25,000 years, there has been a lot of branching of the family tree. From R1b, I can trace the highlights down to A11132.

R-M269

R-M269 is the next big group to look at. According to Wikipedia:

Haplogroup R-M269, also known as R1b1a1a2, is a sub-clade of human Y-chromosome haplogroup R1b. It is of particular interest for the genetic history of Western Europe. It is defined by the presence of SNP marker M269. R-M269 has been the subject of intensive research; it was previously also known as R1b1a2 (2003 to 2005), R1b1c (2005 to 2008), and R1b1b2 (2008 to 2011)[3]

R-M269 is the most common European haplogroup, greatly increasing in frequency on an east to west gradient (its prevalence in Poland estimated at 22.7%, compared to Wales at 92.3%). It is carried by approximately 110 million European men (2010 estimate).[4] The age of the mutation M269 is estimated at roughly 4,000 to 10,000 years ago, and its sub-clades can be used to trace the Neolithic expansion into Europe as well founder-effects within European populations due to later (Bronze Age and Iron Age) migrations.[4]

R-L21

L21 is the next step down on  my Hartley YDNQ tree. I like to associate L21 with the Celtic Regions of Ireland, Scotland and Britain. It really includes more than that, but a lot of the people in these regions are L21. Here is how things proceeded from R-M269. R-P312 is the next main juncture, then the three main choices after that include R-L21:

R-L513

After L21, the next main group in my Hartley family is in is L513. This is also a group project at FTDNA. Here is a chart from about a year and a half ago:

My Hartley group is in the middle:

So far, I have found that this Hartley branch is quite old. From the Chart above, you can also see that some family branches have gone a lot further with their testing. The further down in the Chart you go, the more recent the connections. In order to get Hartley unstuck from the middle ages, we need more Big Y testers to refine more Hartley YDNA branches.

In the above chart, it looks like Hartley descends from Smith. However, that is not right. The block tree at FTDNA is more accurate:

In the above chart, Hartley is on the left and Smith is on the right.

A11132 Testing

So far as I know, three Hartley’s have tested positive for A11132. One other Hartley and I took the Big Y test. The person I will be calling Hartley 4.11 did not do the Big Y test, but did test positive for A11132. There is a problem in identifying these three people while maintaining privacy. Here is the Hartley YDNA Project at FTDNA:

I’ll identify the Hartley testers by number. So the first person in Group 4.0 will be Hartley 4.01. The last person on the entire list will be 4.15. The Hartley administrator has put 12 Hartley’s into a green A11132 Group. The first 7 are suspected A11132. The next five Hartley’s in Group 4.1 appear to have tested positive for A11132, but only two show that they have tested for A11132. My test (4.12) has Robert Hartley for an ancestor. The other Big Y tested A11132 (4.15) has the ancestor of Samuel Edward Hartley from 1666. Hartley 4.11 has the ancestor Richard Hartley. He tested for the single SNP A11132, but because the testing was not with FTDNA, the results do not show up on the Chart above.

Genealogical Triangulation

Assuming that the 4.0 and 4.1 Groups above are all A11132, it should be possible to look at their genealogy and triangulate a likely Hartley place of origin. My Hartley genealogy goes back to Trawden, Lancashire, England around 1803 and then gets stuck. This is due to too many Hartley’s in the area with the same names and I can on;ly guess which one is my ancestor based on location and occupation if that information is even available.

My Genealogy Back to Trawden

I can get back to Trawden, Lancashire. This was a little village that didn’t even have it’s own Anglican Church outside of Colne.

After my family moved out of Trawden, they moved to Bacup which was to the lower right of Newchurch on the map above. From there, they moved to Massachusetts.

The earliest Hartley I can trace for sure is Robert Hartley. He was a weaver in Trawden. His son, my ancestor, Greenwood was born in 1831:

Unfortunately, Robert was a common name and there were many Robert’s from the time when my ancestor Robert would have been born. Also a weaver was a common profession. Weavers were not tied to the land, so they may have moved around.

When Robert married Mary, he was already a widower:

When Mary married, she was already a single mother and had a son named John Pilling. To further complicate matters, Robert died, probably in 1835:

Hartley 4.05 – Congregational Ancestry

I looked at the genealogy of this Hartley in a previous Blog:

He is the one highlighted with William Shepherd as an ancestor. I’m calling him 4.05 because he is the fifth Hartley in group 4.0.  Through non-conformist Congregational records, I was able to get him further back to Wray near Hornby on the map below around 1750 or before:

Hartley 4.07 – Over the Yorkshire Line

This is the Hartley with the Thomas Hartley ancestor:

He is also mentioned in my 2017 Blog as he is the other Hartley who tested to 111 STRs. I have that his ancestors were in Thornton near Bradford as per the red marker in the image above. Going by the 111 STR markers, it appeared that Hartley 4.05 and 4.07 were more closely related to each other than to me (Hartley 4.12).

Hartley 4.15 – Quaker Ancestry

This match is interesting to me for a few reasons. One is that he is the only other A11132 Hartley to have taken the Big Y test. Secondly, by the less accurate STRs, he seems to be more closely related to me than all of the other Hartley’s except Sanchez:

Assuming I got lucky and was right with my tree above, our Quaker Hartley would have the most important genealogy to me other than Sanchez’s genealogy right now.

4.15 sent me this tree:

This goes back beyond his 1666 Samuel Edward Hartley ancestor, based on FamilySearch apparently. However, I need to get from 4.15 back to Samuel Edward. That could take a bit:

I found a Quaker record for Thomas C Hartley that made me think I was on the right track:

I’m not sure why the heading is for North Carolina Marriage Records if this was for an Ohio Quaker meeting.

Now I’m back to Pennsylvania in the early 1700’s:

At this point, five Ancestry Trees that have a parent or two for Roger, have Roger’s father as Samuel and four have Edward.

Geni has this information:

WikiTree matches what Hartley 4.15 has:

Here is a 1577 map of a portion of Lancashire:

Marshden Chap: must be the general area of Marsden. Trawden is NE of Marshden on the map. Pendle Hill is famous among Quakers. According to georgefox.edu:

Historians mark 1652 as the beginning of the Quaker movement. One day George Fox climbed up desolate Pendle Hill (believed to be a haunt of demons) and saw “a people in white raiment, coming to the Lord.” The vision signified that proclaiming Christ’s power over sin would gather people to the kingdom. And it did. By 1660, there were 50,000 followers. Zealous young men and women (“the valiant sixty”) joined Fox in preaching at fairs, marketplaces, in the fields, in the jails, in the courts, and through the printing press.

What I Gather from My A11132 Hartley Relative with Quaker Ancestry

Based just on my genealogy and the above Quaker genealogy, I take it that I am looking for my Hartley ancestors in the right general area. I would not be able to say if our common ancestor was in Marsden and my branch moved to Trawden or that our common ancestor was in the Trawden area and the Quaker Branch moved to Marsden. These two places border each other. However, the fact that the DNA points to an early common ancestor from around 1500 or so, makes finding that common ancestor difficult. The other aspect of my Quaker connection is that Samuel (or Edward or Samuel Edward) Hartley who was born in 1666 left for Pennsylvania. I don’t know if Samuel Edward left any children in Lancashire, England. According to WikiTree, Samuel’s father was Rodger John Hartley born 1628 in Little Marsden, Lancashire. The point is, that by genealogy and geography, he would be the latest possible common ancestor between myself and Hartley 4.15.

Hartley 4.04 Genealogy

This Hartley shows as Sanchez on the STR Tree that I drew and showed as my closest DNA match. If my analysis is right, then 4.04’s genealogy will be the closest and most important for my Hartley Branch.  4,04’s genealogy should also give a locational triangulation between my ancestors and Hartley 4.15’s ancestors. Here is the paternal side of 4.04’s Tree at Ancestry:

This tree begins with 4.04’s grandfather. When 4.04 originally contacted me, he did not know who his grandfather was, but apparently he has figured it out since then. 4.04 has his genealogy ending up in Todmorden, Yorkshire or Lancashire (I assume the County boundaries changed):

Here is part of a Wikipedia entry on Todmorden:

The historic boundary between Yorkshire and Lancashire is the River Calder and its tributary, the Walsden Water, which run through the town. The administrative border was altered by the Local Government Act 1888 placing the whole of the town within the West Riding.

So the answer is that Todmorden was historically in both Yorkshire and Lancashire, but since 1888, it has been in Yorkshire. I assume that I will end up in Todmorden also when I create my tree for Hartley 4.04. John Edward Hartley was the immigrant, so it would be nice to find Naturalization papers for him. John Hartley was a common name, so it would be good to double check the genealogy.

I did find a Naturalization for John’s daughter in law Agnes Hartley. Here we have some tight timeframes:

I was suspicious of this record as William and Agnes are shown marrying in 25 May 1940. However, when I check the 1940 Census for Harrison, NJ, it shows that William was single. That is because the Census was taken 25 April 1940.

I think I found John Hartley in the 1915 New Jersey Census:

He is living, widowed, at 617 John Street, Kearney, NJ. He is a Color mixer which fits in with his 1940 occupation as a color chemist at DuPont.

A Curious Marriage

This is a critical record for John Hartley:

The question is why John from Newark, NJ would have married in Boston, MA in 1913. Also Sarah’s address is given as the SS Laconia. It seems to tie together strangely when we see that John arrived in Boston on 13 May 1913 on the SS Laconia:

So the story holds together. The marriage record is important as it gives the names of John’s parents:

The ship record confirms Thomas as John’s father:

Unfortunately, I can’t figure out where 28 Union St, Castleton is. Google Maps wants to send me to Cartaret, NJ. [See later in the Blog for the answer.]

John’s Draft Registration Cards link hin to Todmorden:

The above card is from 1917.

Here is Todmorden:

I drew in where Marsden used to be. I included a one mile scale.

Here are a few more geographical tidbits:

My ancestors moved from Trawden to Bacup to find work in the textile mills around 1851 or before.  Joseph Edward Hartley married in Heptonstall in 1693.

Here is John Edward’s baptismal record from 1883:

Here is the family in 1891 in Rochdale:

Searching for Thomas and Mary

This Thomas was born about 1858 and Mary should have been born about 1857. This must be the marriage in Burnley in 1882:

That means that Thomas would have been single in 1881:

Note that the birthplace is given as Lancashire, Todmorden. This appears to be a transcription of Thomas’ birth record:

Walsden is the village South of Todmorden. Here is Thomas’ death record. I mention Castleton above:

Edward and Hannah Hartley

That gets us back to Thomas’ parents. Here is the family in 1841 in Walsden:

Here is where a map comes in handy:

I couldn’t read Knowl Wood on the Census, but it is plain on the map above (highlighted).

Of further interest in the 1841 Census above, is that David the father was not born in the same County and his wife was not born in the same Country.

David and Betty Hartley

From another record, I see that David was from Stansfield. Here is the Stansfield section of Todmorden:

I get this Ancestry suggestion for a baptism at Holmfirth Wesleyan for David:

This is supposed to give his Township and Parish, but I am having trouble making them out. This could explain why there were not many Church of England records for this family. Concerning the date, that would make David only 16 when he married in 1817, assuming his birth was near his baptism. The 1841 Census says that he was 40, but those ages were rounded down, so he may have been as old as 44 at the time. Based on the 1841 Census, David was not born in Lancashire, so a Holmfirth, Yorkshire baptism would agree with that Census.

Abraham or Thomas Hartley?

Other trees have David’s father as Thomas Hartley:

This would make sense as it would have been a tradition for David to name his first son Thomas (which he did) after his father. One problem is that David was born in 1797 in the above tree and this tree has Thomas Hartley and Betty Barker marrying in 1801.

A11132 Hartley Places

Here is my summary, so far:

Now I just need all these places on a map.

Here I circled three, because based on YDNA STRs, it seemed that these three were more closely related to each other and the other top two blue markers seemed to be related to each other. I also added in Holmfirth as a possible birthplace for David Hartley mentioned above. This map could represent several hundred years of time in which Hartley descendants moved around the area.

Here I added the Hartley names and dates:

The genealogy of Samuel Edward Hartley is important as it is the earliest. My guess based on previous STR analysis is that Samuel is more closely related to Robert and David Hartley though 150 years separate their genealogies. I suspect that Samuel, Christopher and Thomas also descend from an earlier Hartley and that Christopher and Thomas are more closely related to each other than to Samuel, Robert and David. However, further Big Y testing my support or refute that theory.

Due to the age of Samuel Edward’s genealogy and the founder’s effect, I would place the origin for all these Hartley’s in the area to the South of Colne. The founder’s effect says that you will see a lot of Hartley’s, for example, in the area where they originally started out. The area of Colne has had the largest concentration of Hartley’s in the World that I know of.

Summary and Conclusions

  • YDNA testing for STRs and SNPs have shown that there is one certain group of Hartley’s presently identified by the SNP A11132 that separates themselves from all other Hartley’s.
  • According to the Hartley YDNA Project, there are 12 Hartley’s who have tested that appear to be in this A11132 group
  • Many of the 12 in the group have listed the oldest Hartley ancestor that they can find.
  • By further testing of Big Y, we should be able to get more YDNA branching of SNPs. This will refine which Hartleys within A11132 are related more closely to each other and suggest where each branch lived and when. This will further help in directing where to research for these ancestors.
  • I have looked at the genealogy of 5 of the 12 in this group. It would be a good idea to continue on with this work at some time.
  • I never did look at the genealogy of the husband of the woman who got in touch with me. His genealogy goes back to Virginia. He would benefit by a Big Y test in that could tell him which Hartley Branch is DNA is aligning with. This would also point to an English place of origin for his Branch of Hartley’s. However, even withouth that testing, it seems like all roads for A11132 Hartley’s lead to the Parish of Colne.

 

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My Hathaway DNA

I was recently writing a couple of Blogs about where my Hathaway ancestors lived. It turns out that there are a ton of Hathaway descendants. This is a good thing for DNA matching. Think about it. If I was the only descendant of my Hathaway ancestors, I wouldn’t have any DNA matches on that line. As it is, I should have a lot. This made me want to look into my Hathaway DNA and see if I could do anything with it.

Hathaway Genealogy

The most recent Hathaway in my genealogy is Wealthy Hathaway born 1809. She married Harvey Bradford and is my 3rd great-grandmother:

Anyone with whom I share Wealthy Hathaway and Harvey Bradford would be a 4th cousin. At ancestry I have a DNA match with a J.H:

JH and I show as th cousins through Harvey Bradford. However, we are equally or more related on the Hathaway side:

This is JH’s tree and Olive descends from two different Hathaway Lines. As I said, prolific.

My JH match also appears on Ancestry’s Thrulines:

JH and Philip have modest DNA matches with me. I have a huge match with Patricia, but we are also 2nd cousins through a closer pair of common ancestors.

More Searching for Hathaway DNA Matches at Ancestry

I can do a seach like this:

This narrows down ancestral Hathaway’s from Wareham, MA. However, some of my Hathaway ancestors were actually from Rochester, MA. When I run this Search with Rochester, I get Louisa. She responded to to a message I sent her, but was somewhat private. Her tree is locked:

She thinks we connect on the Simon Hathaway Line. However, that would make us 7th cousins if she is in the same generation as me from Simon Hathaway. That is pretty far out there for a DNA match of 34 cM. Ancestry expects us to be on the order of 4th cousins based on the amount of DNA that Louisa and I share.

Shared Matches that Louisa and I Share

Assuming that Louisa and I share DNA all the way back from Simon Hathaway and Hannah Clifton, our shared matches could be along that line also.

Gloria is the first shared match I have with Louisa with a useful tree:

Gloria’s second great grandmother is Susan Hathaway born in 1849. As Susan seems stuck at that point, I hesitate to try to figure out who she is. So I am stuck here. Susan had a son named Rufus and there was a Rufus Hathaway who lived not far from where I lived in Massachusetts, but I am stuck on Gloria right now.

Searching for Wareham Hathaway Ancestors with DNA Matches

Next, I’ll go back to my Wareham search that I mentioned above. The first person I find who I don’t already know about is Carol. Carol has a Rebecca Hathaway in her tree:

I found her death record at Ancestry:

Her married name was transcribed as Leaver and I can see why. Here are her parents:

I just have to make the connection to a common ancestor. This will also force me to build out my Ancestry Tree. Based on 139 Ancestry Trees, David’s parents were Salathiel and Lovey:

Here is how Carol and I match as 7th cousins:

It’s a double Hathaway match as Lovey in Carol’s line married Salathiel Hathaway. Salathiel was son of Thomas, so of Arthur. Our common ancestor Simon was also a son of Arthur but from a different wife. I won’t chart that out for the sake of simplicity. I think that means that Salathiel and Lovey were half first cousins once removed! If I add Rebecca Hathaway to my tree, Ancestry will probably see the connection.

Actually, I left out David on Carol’s side:

Back to Wealthy Hathaway

I can add a Wealthy Branch to the tree:

I could also call this the Bradford Branch. On the right side where I am, Annie Snell and James Hartley had 13 children. So I won’t add all those. Patricia also descends from that couple on her mother’s side.

Skot

I wrote a Blog about Skot here. In that Blog I gave more in-depth analysis of Hathaway DNA.

Nadine

I also have a small DNA match with Nadine at Ancestry. Her tree appears to be on the same Lovey/Salathiel Branch. Nadine’s tree stops at Jonathan Hathaway:

Jonathan was one of 11, so there was a good chance that I would be matching some of those descendants.

Looking at My Brother Jon’s Matches

I have four other siblings tested at Ancestry. My brother Jon matches WW by DNA. WW’s tree stops at Simon Hathaway, but Ancestry shows that WW’s Simon is the son of my ancestors Simon Hathaway and Hannah Clifton:

WW is interesting as she has Pitts descendants:

WW’s Ancestry Solves Gloria’s Ancestry with DNA Matches as Supporting Evidence

Remember, I got stuck about on Gloria’s genealogy. Here is how Gloria most likely fits in:

 

Simon above who was son and grandson of Simon’s Hathaway was born in Rochester, MA and died in Florida. Susan Hathaway must be the sister of Mary Hathaway. Mary marries William Pitts and Susan marries John Pitts. That means that Gloria and WW are my 6th cousins once removed. It’s cool that DNA picked up Simon Hathaway who moved from Rochester to Alabama and Florida around 175 years ago.

Jon and Tami

When I look for Jon’s DNA with a search for Hathaway ancestors from Rochester, MA, I get Tami. Tami is from the Holmes, Florida Branch of Hathaway’s:

Based on WW’s Ancestry Tree, Simon W Hathaway bought 199 acres of land in the Tallahassee area of Florida:

Tami helps build out the Florida Branch nicely:

My Sister Lori and Alyssa

Ancestry doesn’t pick up a common ancestor here, but I think I see one:

I descend from David Hathaway and Priscilla Hiller. Here is that Line:

Alyssa also added her DNA to Gedmatch which is important for analysis. Here is where she matches my sister Lori on Chromosome 2:

The match is fairly low, so it is difficult to tell how significant this DNA match is. However, the genealogical connection is probably quite good, so the DNA match is not as important as, say, with Gloria, where some of the genealogical records appear to be missing.

Lori and Thomas

Here I have added Thomas and Lori:

Joyce, My Father’s Cousin’s Hathaway DNA Matches

Joyce is a generation away from me, so should have more Hathaway DNA. Joyce matches AH:

AH’s tree ends at Salathiel and Lovey Hathaway. I’ll add AH and Joyce to my tree. Actually it is not that easy as it shows Salathiel born in 1836 being the father of Thomas Hathaway born in 1789. That’s not good. I better make my own tree:

My tree goes out to an Isaac Hathaway Jr. That would give a hint as to the father. AH’s tree has Thomas Hathaway as the father of Isaac Hathaway. On Edward’s marriage record, it shows that his father was a Junior:

This record of Intentions is for Isaac Hathaway Jr.:

Short story is that it seems like AH should be in the David Hathaway Line:

That would make Joyce and AH 5th cousins if I have it right.

Joyce’s ThruLines with David Hathaway

ThruLines are a sort of short cut. Ancestry tries to make the connections that I am trying to make by computer matching and DNA matching:

Ancestry wants me to evaluate these, but they look alright to me. The only problem is that Ancestry shows Charlotte as a half 5th cousin and she should be a full 5th cousin to Joyce. Here they are on my Chart:

If all these people had uploaded their DNA results to Gedmatch, I would be able to tell how they match each other and it would give more evidence for this tree.

More Rochester Hathaway DNA Matches for Joyce

When I look for common DNA matches and common Rochester Hathaway ancestors for Joyce, I find Katherine:

Edwin looks familiar from AH’s tree, so I’ll add Katherine to my tree:

Katherine brings the David Hathaway/Priscilla Hiller tree down an additional generation. So the skinny little tree I had at the top of the Blog has filled out quite a bit. This is a composite tree with DNA matches from myself my siblings and Joyce so far.

Joyce and Joyce

Joyce’s match Joyce is from the Salathiel/Lovey Hathaway Line. When I add Joyce, I can take out Thomas. AH had him as an ancestor, but I didn’t think that was correct:

This will fix the Savery Branch. Savery was the brother of my ancestor David Hathaway:

This shows that Joyce is a 4th cousin to my high school friend, Skot.

Joyce and Cynthia

Cynthia is on the Hathaway/Bradford LIne:

Joyce and AF

AF goes back to Simon Hathaway and Hannah Clifton through their daughter, Rebecca:

So far I have only descendants of Simon’s three sons, so this is a new line.

Joyce with Bradford and Catherine

Bradford and Catherine add to the Salathiel/Lovey Line.

Joyce has a DNA Match with MD on the David Hathaway Line

Here is an update of the progress so far:

This shows Simon Hathaway at the top with three sons and a daughter. The David Hathaway line has the most descendants as that is the line that I come from and am comparing. All of these people have a DNA match to me, one of my siblings or to my father’s first cousin Joyce.

Joyce Matches Melanie on the Simon LIne

Melanie is the last DNA match for Joyce with an easily identifiable common Hathaway ancestor.

My Dad’s First Cousin Maury

My cousin tested her dad at AncestryDNA and gave me access to the results. He should match many of the same Hathaway descendants plus a few new ones. When I do the find DNA matches of Hathaway ancestors from Wareham, I get DM. I don’t recognize DM from previous searches. DM has ancestors on the Simon side:

I’ll have to add Maury to my Chart also. Here is how the DNA match works:

Both Maury and DM both likely got the same slice of DNA from Simon Hathaway or his wife Hannah Clifton. DM is on the Simon Hathaway Line that ended up in Florida in the 1800’s.

Maury and HI

HI goes back to my David Hiller ancestor:

Maury’s ThruLines

These are some of the DNA matches and genealogical matches that Ancestry came up with:

I just added HI and already have JH, but I can add in Eli and Janet.

Maury’s Match to Carolyn on the Lovey Branch

My DNA Hathaway Chart

This is what I came up with as a result of this Blog:

These are some of the descendants of Simon Hathaway and Hannah Clifton that have DNA matches with me, my siblings and my father’s two cousins

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Where Did David Hathaway (1744-1837) Live?

In a previous Blog, I looked at where my ancestor Joseph Hathaway lived. He was the son of David Hathaway. Here is David and family from the Wareham Town records.

If David left a will or went through probate, that will make things easier for us. I don’t see any such records yet.

David Hathaway in the Census

Here is a David Hathaway in the 1830 Census of Wareham:

There are quite a few Hathaway’s on this page. David is living near Salathiel and Salathiel Hathaway Jr. as well as John Gurney. Here are some more names on the next page of the Wareham Census:

However, the above David could not be the one born in 1744:

This was a man between 30 and 39 with a woman 20-29 and three children under 5 – two boys and a girl. I show later in the Blog that David sold all his Wareham property to the Town of Wareham in 1818. This could be David, son of David (1781-1864).

Here is the 1810 Census:

Here David is between Salathiel and Savary Hathaway. I might as well go back to 1790:

Here is a tax list from 1798. David has 90 or 98 acres of land:

I basically know that David Hathaway lived in Wareham, but I would like a more specific location.

This appears to be a deed for David Hathaway’s father Simon in Rochester:

But now I’m getting ahead of myself. This deed would have been close to when David was born on 14 October 1744. The question would be, if Simon bought a house in Rochester before David’s birth, why is David listed as born in Wareham?

Here are some more Wareham records showing David’s birth date:

Savery’s Will

It looks like Savery (or Savory), the brother of David, left a will:

This is likely the Savery listed next to David Hathaway in the 1810 Census. The will says that Savery was of Wareham. There was more of the will after this. Here is the real estate part of Savory’s inventory:

The total contains other items listed above and not reproduced here. I was hoping that there was a description of where the land was, but I didn’t see one.

To the Deeds

If there were Deeds for David Hathaway, that may be a help in locating where he was. Also I note in the records for Rochester there is a David Hathaway who dies in 1837 and one that dies in 1839. This could make life difficult. The first deed I found looks to be important:

This lists David as both a grantee and grantor which is confusing.

This deed shows that Savery and David were in Wareham and the other siblings were in Rochester. It also mentions that their father Simon had real estate in Rochester, Wareham and Plymouth. The next page relates to the dividing of the property among the three sons and describes that property:

The road that divides Rochester and Wareham must be present County Road:

That perhaps narrows down where to look. There were only so many houses shown along the red shading indicating County Road above. [Edit: I should have gone further down on the map above as the current day Marion was part of Rochester at the time of the above Deed.]

This page said they had it worked out with their father as to what son would get what property. Thomas Savery is mentioned along with a school house, the Hathaway homestead, the Sippican River and the Neck between Sippican and Chokaput Creek.

Here is a map from 1832 that shows a school – possibly the one mentioned in the above deed:

However, this school on a later map is also possibly the school from the Deed:

Father Simon had also previously bought some land from Simeon Wing. My guess is that Chokaput Creek could be the present Cohackett Brook. This seems to be the same as called Cohasset Creek later in the deed. If that is right, then the Neck may be the land between the Cohackett Brook and the Sippican River:

I do notice four Hathaway houses here:

Another interesting point is that the original homestead is said to be on the West side of the road.  So that would be extra credit in figuring out where that house was. Or if it was still standing at the time of the 1856 map above. From what I can tell, Savery gets the old homestead. The above deed was dated 20 April 1790 and recorded later.

The short story is that it appears that Savery gets the homestead and land. David and Simon get land. We don’t know whether any of these three lived in this area or not.

A year after this deed, my ancestor Joseph Hathaway (son of David) bought land and a house in the Pierceville area of Wareham on High Street.

Benson to David Hathaway Recorded 1803

This deed was dated 1797:

Cohasset Brook is mentioned again. That makes me think that David Hathaway was living in this area now. Perhaps this is the branch of the Cohasset? And perhaps the D. Hathaway was David the son of David Hathaway in 1856? [Edit: See later in the Blog. This was actually the home of David M. Hathaway and probably on the Marion side of the Road.]

1805 Deed Recorded 1806 Lettes Jenne to David Hathaway

Lettes Jenne sold land 56 acres of land in Rochester to David Hathaway of Wareham bordering on the land of Joseph Hathaway. I’m not really sure where this land was. Here is where I have Joseph Hathaway:

The Joseph Hathaway who was my ancestor and the son of David Hathaway lived at the top left of the Map above in the house marked R Hathaway (his daughter Ruth).

David Son of David Hathaway Deed to Savery and Alexander Hathaway 1809

This David lived in Vermont and sold land at Horse Neck (current Pierceville, Wareham) to Savery and Alexander Hathaway. This land was also near Joseph Hathaway (shown on the map above).

The next Deed is for a different (not closely related) David Hathaway who was a shipwright (and I believe a merchant) in Marion:

David Sells All His Wareham Land to the Town of Wareham 1818 for $1,000

Here is a Wareham Deed:

In a move that surprises me, David sells his house and land to the Town of Wareham:

There is specific mention of David’s Dwelling House, so it is clear that he lived at this location. He was also near a Brook, Philip, Alexander and Savory Hathaway’s land as well as Levi and George Gurney’s land. John Fearing’s land is also mentioned. This raises some questions:

  • Why would the Town of Wareham want this land?
  • What did David do with the money?
  • Where did David live after this?

Perhaps David went into retirement in 1818. He was born in 1744, so he would have been about 72 at this point. He likely lived with one of his children. However, as per later in the Blog, he may have stayed on where he was.

Here is another deed which is difficult to explain:

From what I can tell Joseph Jenne is leasing a farm where David Hathaway lived. He is also buying David’s personal property. In exchange for this lease and personal property of David Hathaway, Joseph is conveying to the Town of Selectmen a parcel of land. I don’t know if this was an unusual arrangement:

This Joseph Jenne seems like David’s old age plan, “I the said Jenne are to take David Hathaway of Wareham aforesaid and him lawfully bed and board and clothe both in sickness and health during his the said Hathaways natural land and that the said town of Wareham are not to know any expenses on account of said David Hathaway hereafter and furthermore.” This Joseph Jenne (or Jenney) must have been the husband of Meribah Hathaway:

This is likely Joseph in the 1830 Census in Rochester:

In 1830 Joseph would have been about 59 and David about 86. The fact that Joseph was in Rochester tells me he did not remain in the leased house in Wareham. It looks like Joseph should be around the corner from my house also at the Quaker Cemetery. I’ll have to pay a visit:

 

Joseph Jenney to Joseph Jenney Jr

This deed has potential:

…and the said Joseph Jenney also conveys to the said Joseph Jenney Junr the Improvement of a farm situated in the Town of Wareham which I hold by virtue of a lease from the Selectmen of said Town so long as I am entitled to said possesion in consequence of said lease…”

The elder Joseph moves off the leased farm and Joseph Jenney Junior moves in (and updates the surname while he is at it). Here is Joseph Jr in 1830 at age 29:

However, he is listed as living in Rochester. So who was taking care of the Wareham farm? In 1850, Joseph is listed as a sailor but in 1855 he is a farmer. Joseph dies in 1866 in Mattrapoisett and leaves a will, but it doesn’t appear to mention the Wareham farm.

It looks like Joseph Jr. unloaded the farm and other property to his youngest brother David Jenney on 1833:

So now I’m up to 1833, but don’t see a Jenney on the map of Wareham that names people. Also the deed does not specifically mention the Wareham farm, but alludes to it by reference of the previous deed. So what happens next?

Here are some deeds for David:

He is mostly on the receiving end (“EE”) until 1853. David dies in 1855. The last two transaction are for the Estate of David Jenney. David sold some land to John Briggs at the Great Neck in Rochester in 1851 for $3. The second sale to Simmons is for Joseph Jenney’s widow dower in or near the Old Landing in Marion. The third sale also mentions Great Neck.

I underlined the house of Mrs. D Jenney above. Here is the stone at the Old Landing Cemetery in Marion:

I’m following all this to try to figure out what happened to the David Hathaway farm. Did the farm go to Polly or did the lease just lapse?

The Will of David Jenney

I hope to find out more about the David Hathawy property here. This is all I see for real estate:

I’ve managed to lose the David Hathaway farm:

  • David Hathaway sells his land and farm to the Town of Wareham in 1818
  • David’s son-in-law Joseph Jenney who is married to David’s daughter Meribah leases the land from the Town of Marion about 1827
  • The lease goes to  Joseph Jenney Junior and then seems to get lost of lapses

David Son of Salathiel

This deed was with a different David Hathaway and involved the Northerly part of Wareham:

So that seems to be the end of deeds for the elder David Hathaway – my ancestor. There was probably no probate because he sold his house and lands to the Town of Wareham and his personal goods went to his son-in-law Joseph Jenney. For $600 Joseph sells to his son his Plymouth County real estate of every description including:

“…the improvement of a farm situated in the Town of Wareham which Should by virtue of a lease from the Selectmen of said Town so long as I am entitled to said possession in consequence of said lease…”

So, one more link in the chain of the David Hathaway house.

Summary of David Hathaway 1744-1837 So Far

David was born in 1744 to Simon Hathaway. Simon died in 1790 when David was 46 and left David and his brothers land. David’s older brother got the family house which was on the West side of present-day County Road in Rochester. Most of the land of Simon that wend to Savery, David and Simon was on the East side of County Road in Wareham. These lands were in the area of the Sippican River and Cohasset Brook which are probably the same as Chokaput Creek and today’s Cohackett Brook.

David lived to an old age. He sold his land and house to the Town of Wareham in 1808. I assume that he continued to live in this house. Around 1824, David’s son-in-law Joseph Jenne(y) leases the house and property and takes over David’s personal goods and the care of David though he seems to transfer part of that responsibility to his son Joseph Jenney Junior.

On to Simon Hathaway (1711-1790)

I’m starting to run dry on clues for David Hathaway. I’ll move on to Simon. I already mentioned the distribution of his land to his three sons above in 1790 following his death. Simon was actually born in Dartmouth and moved to Wareham before 1719. My notes say that his wife left a will.

The Will of Hannah Clifton Hathaway (1717-1808)

Hannah outlived her husband Simon by 18 years. Here is the first page of her will dated 1805:

Savery gets one? large something:

David gets 25 cents as do most of the other children or heirs of the children. Hannah was said to be of Rochester. I assume that she was still living in the home of Simon which was said to be to the West of County Road, so in Rochester – or possibly current-day Marion.

The last three mentioned seemed to get more:

  • Daughter Joanna gets half of her household stuff and 3/4 of her cash and notes
  • Daughter Dorothy gets the other half of the household stuff and 1/4 of her cash and notes
  • Philip Hathaway who was sole executor gets a cow. Philip Hathaway may be her grandson, son of her son Simon.

Simon Hathaway Deeds

Here are some pretty old deeds. This could take a while. The last deed mentions Simon Jr.

1742 Deed – That Sounds Old

This mentions that Simon was of Rochester but the land was in Wareham and bought for 130 pounds bills of Credit old Tenour.

“…a certain tract or Parcel of Land with the Haying Orchard and Fencing on the Same situate lying + being in Wareham in the County of Plymouth aforesd being the Homestead Land whereon Theophilus Doty formerly lived containing fourty acres be it more or less within the bounds following Viz. Beginning at a large Maple tree standing in a Branch of Cohasset Creek thence South by East Sixty Rods to a Stake thence West Sixty Rod to a white oak bush marked thence East by North about four Rod to a Stake by the East side of sd Way thence East by North fifty six Rods to a Pine saplin mark’d thence on a Straight Line to the maple tree first mentioned. To have and to hold the sd granted & Bargained Premises with all the appurtenances thereunto belonging unto him  …”

It is not clear to me if a house stood on the property or not. The mention of the Cohasset Creek is the most helpful part as it seems to put the property in the area of present-day Cohackett Brook or at one of its branches.

1762 Family Deed at the Great Cedar Swamp

Simon Hathaway’s wife was Hannah Clifton. This deed mentions a cedar swam lot in the Great Cedar Swamp near the Joshua Cowing Homestead being the 33rd Lot in number. Charles Sturtevant and Elizabeth his wife, Timothy Clifton and Simon Hathaway owned a property in common. This deed says how they were going to split it up.  Actually Sturtevant owned half and Clifton and Hathaway owned the other half.

1765 – Another Clifton Deed

Here Timothy Clifton deeds to Simon 10 acres for 40 shillings. This land was originally granted to John Cotton.

1765 – Two Deeds in a Row

In the next deed, Benjamin Johnson of Middleborough sells Simon 57 acres for 51 dollars. This deed must be for land near the original land that Simon bought in Wareham:

Bounded as follows lyning Between Theophiluy Doty’es and William Hunter’s land or land that was theirs Beginning at a pine tree old marked Near the North East Corner of Theophilus Doty’s land and then South Twenty Three degrees East Eighty five Rods to a crooked pine Tree old marked on four sides and from thence East thirteen Degrees North till we come to the Corner of Lemuel Clagon’s(?) and then Ranging by his land While We Come to a White oak Tree near the Brook the ranging as the Brook Runneth Northward to a maple Tree marked and from thence West to a Hake thence North fifty one Rods to a Hake Thence West While We come to the said Clagon’s Corner and then Ranging By his land While We Come to the pine first mentioned

This deed doesn’t mention the name Cohasset Brook, but it appears to be the same brook.

1776 A Revolutionary War Deed

In 1776 Simon purchased a wood lot in Plymouth. This appeared to be just under 180 acres. It was described as Lot 14 and belonged earlier to the heirs of Joseph Bartlett Junior.

The 1798 deed was the one that set off his land to his three sons after his death. The following deeds appear to be for Simon Hathaway Junior as they are after 1790.

More Maps Needed

Here is a portion of a map I had in my cellar from 1855 of Marion:

This is the area that I have been focusing on. In 1855, there was a David M Hathaway living on the Marion side (previously Rochester) and two Hathaways on the Wareham side of the road.

The 1855 Census shows him as a 41 year old farmer:

David M would have been born about 1814. Rebecca Hathaway would have been born about 1788.

The 1850 Census

Here is David M in 1850:

Here is the next page of the Census:

This shows that Rebecca was likely Savory Hathaway’s wife. Here is my 1855 Map again:

In 1850, Savory Hathaway was probably living in the house where J Dean was living in 1855. Savory or Savery was David M Hathaway’s father.

Savery’s father was also Savery and the brother of DavidHathaway, my ancestor. So it could have happened that the house passed down somehow from SImon to Savery to Savery to David M Hathaway. That ‘s the theory.

Here we see David M is the Executor:

The Second Savery Hathaway Will

I looked up Savery in the Probate Index:

Short story, Savery wants his wife taken care of. His house goes to David M Hathaway. The other children get $2 each. He wants his single daughters to have a home to live in. The judge approved this will as no one appeared to disagree with it.

I feel like I’m getting pretty close to finding out where Simon Hathaway lived. One thing that was throwing me off is that the 1858 wrongly shows D. Hathaway on the Wareham side of the Road:

It always helps to have more maps. If Savery willed his house to David M Hathaway, then he must have lived in it previously.

A Closer Look at Savery Hathaway Senior’s Will

The will is confusing as it seems to divide things evenly between the two sons Savery and Alexander. However, in the part where he gives the half to Alexander, he seems to slip in that the house would belong to Savery.

“…+ to live with my Son Savery in the old part of my Dwelling house…”

Here is Alexander’s stone along with his wife’s stone:

I haven’t looked into, but a comment on another photo said that Alexander was a Quaker preacher. I have a feeling that this cemetery is just around the corner from where I live.

That means that:

  • I found David M Hathaway on a map dated 1855
  • He was the son of Savery Hathaway who left the house to David M. Hathaway in his will. This Savery died 1855.
  • The Savery who died in 1855 was the son of another Savery. This Savery Hathaway died in 1811 and wished his wife to live in the old part of his house with his son Savery after the elder Savery died.

Connecting Savery to Simon Hathaway

It was my sense, earlier in the Blog that the Simon Hathaway who died in 1790 left his house to Savery. Savery was the oldest son, so the house should go to him, but where does it say that?

It may help to try to write out the deed:

“We all of us proceeded to Divide the Same as we all acknowledge to have been verbally Directed by our Said Honoured father as follows, first we Began at a Stake and heap of stones standing on the East Side of the Road that parts the Town of Rochester and Wareham and to the Southward of Barn and from there Ranging East Twelve Degrees North Eighty one Rods and an half to a stake and heap of stones in the Corner of a Ditch fence, thence North thirteen Degrees East fourty four Rods to a Stake and heap of Stones which the Southwest Corner of the part hereafter set of to said David Hathaway, and thence Ranging northerly as the fence now Stands between Said David + Savery untill it comes to the Land our Said Brother Simon Bought of Thomas Savery and then Westerly by Said Simon and Said Thomas Savery Land untill it comes to the aforesaid Road, and then Bounded by Said Road to the first bound. All the Land in these Boundaries is set off and assigned to said Savery Hathaway and allso a Small piece of Wood Land on the Northerly part of the Homestead bound from the Southwesterly Corner of a Survey of Land formerly Laid oiut to Savery Crosston, thence a Straight Line to a Stake Bound of Thomas Savery Land a Little Southward of the School house and that part of the homestead Lying northward of Said Line to belong to Said Savery and also a piece of Land Lying Adjoining to Sippican River, in the Neck between Said River + Chokaput Creek Bounded from an apple tree by the Road at the Southerly End of the Barn going into Said neck, thence on a straight Line to Long Stone Standing in the Bank a bound Between two Lots of Meadow, thence Bounded by the Meadow to David Haskell’s Land and by Said Haskell’s Land to the aforesaid Road. and thence by the Road to the first Bound, all of Which Land Meadow, thence Westerly across Said Meadow + Creek to the upland, thence Bounded Bound by the Meadow taking in all the upland in Said neck up to Said Savery Hathaway Land and also a Small tract of Land near to Isaac Savery’s which our Said father Bought of John Busley Bounded as Described on the property Record all of which is Set of to Said Simon Hathaway as his Hole part of portion of Said Estate and we the…”

I’m still having trouble parsing this deed out. It appears that the first part describes the land allotted to David. The middle part starting with “and thence ranging” describes the land plotted to Savery and the homestead which belongs to Savery. The third section appears to start with “and also a piece” which is to be Simon’s allotments. I assume that Simon’s is portion is the furthest South due to mention of the Sippican River. It also appears that there is a North – South boundary between David and Savery’s properties which is difficult to picture. I don’t know how long this North – South  property portion is. Also it may be that the first part doesn’t describe David’s property. It seems to follow a Northern route and then runs into a Southwestern corner of David’s land. That would make me guess that Simon has the Southern parcel, David has the Northern one and Savery has the one in the middle with the house.

Here is my guess:

More on Simon Son of SImon

According to findagrave.com, the younger Simon Hathaway died in 1799 and was buried at the Quaker Cemetery near my house in Marion:

I’ve gone this far, I might as well keep going. When the above Simon died, Philip was the oldest son and didn’t want to break up the land, so he buys out the siblings and his mom basically. That means that the land went to him. However, the land that went to him appears to have been in Rochester, not in Wareham as I would have guessed.

Simon Leads to His Son Philip

Philip died in 1841:

This s getting too complicated. While out of a run I thought of a potentially better approach.

Present to Past Approach

While out on a run, I was thinking of giving up on this Blog, but then came up with a better approach. I’ll look at the Assessor’s Maps for Wareham and perhaps Marion and then go back from there.

Here is the Wareham Assesor’s Index:

The part I want should be around the green box. The West border is County Road. The straight line going North to South must be the railway alignment. This map shows a reservoir:

That reservoir is probably from a Branch of the Cohackett:

Here is Map 65, the next Map going South:

This shows the Cohackett Brook going roughly West to East and North to South in different places. From here, I could look at one of the larger Lots. Lot 1006 is a little over 47 Acres, so I’ll start there. Now I have to figure out how to find that Lot on the Assessor’s Database. If I put in 65 for Mblu (whatever that is), I get Map 65.

I just have to track Eagle Holt Company back through time. Also I note that Ellen Harju is a popular name. There are too many Eagle Holt listings at the Registry. Hereis one for Ellen:

Ellen got the land for back taxes. This is Lot 1009 on Map 64 or 370 County Road:

 However, that was very recent. I’d like to try an older record. I’ll try Lot 1008 on Map 65:

Turns out this was also taken by the Town for non-payment of taxes. The notice mentions book 22390, page 209 at the Registry. All I have to do is find that. I think I found it and it referred to a Plan book 7 page 31. However, that document was a transfer from:

It took a while to figure this out, but I find this useful as it shows abuttors:

 

I just noticed that to the North of the property it says Formerly David Hathaway. The land marked as 2.22 acres was the Lot 1006 that belonged to Eagle Brook that I gave up on. That means that the former David Hathaway Property is Lot 1003, Map 65:

Also on the Barros Deed, they did mention where the Town Line crossed County Road. I can see that on this Assessor’s plan.

Here is Lot 1003:

That appears to go back to this deed:

The Deed mentions a brook in the eastern part of the property. It also mentions Book 8599, Page 349 at the Registry of Deeds:

Patricia got the property from the Resource Financial Group:

One problem is that the above document says the property is at 270 County Road and the Assessor’s Office says it is at 340 County Road.

Resource Financial got the property from Richard DeBord:

This refers to Book 7021 Page 114. I finally figured out how to view a Plan referenced also:

This shows I’m still looking at the right place. This is taking too long. I’m going to pull the plug on this avenue of research.

One ‘Last’ Idea

My last idea is to figure out who the others were living around David M Hathaway. I had good luck in figuring out who David M was. My 1855 Map of Marion shows:

R.F. Hathaway to the NE of David M and A Hathaway to the SE of David M. They should be on the 1855 Wareham Census. The Plymouth County Map shows it differently:

Here is the 1860 Census for Wareham:

The R.F. in the first plan could be Rufus F. Hathaway. Here is the 1855 Census:

In 1855, Rufus is shown living under Alexander Hathaway. Andrew was living under Nancy Hathaway. So that shows two Hathaway houses in Wareham, not three. Joshua Dean is the next one shown on the map going South to the Sippican River.

Here is Rufus:

I borrowed from other people’s trees. Apparently his middle name was Fish. Rufus was the son of Alexander. Alexander was the son of Savery. Savery was the eldest son of Simon and got the family homestead and let’s say 1/3 of the land. Perhaps Savery gave some of his land to Alexander to build a house on.

That leads mean to Savery’s will

Savery Hathaway’s (1739-1811) Will Revisited

Savery was said to be of Wareham at the time of his death. That means that if he lived in his father’s house in what was then Rochester, by the time of his death he had moved across the Road to a different house. Here is the homestead in the inventory:

This was a brief mention, but I assume that it includes all the land associated with the homestead and was a considerable amount for 1811. Another detail is that the two sons lived in different Towns:

Marion Assessors

I notice that David M Hathaway lived adjacent to the narrow area of Marion:

That should be on Marion Assessor’s Map 21:

Here is map 21 with the orientation changed:

There must have been a very large lot 6 as now it goes up to Lot 6Z. My search for County Road gave me this:

My search must have just given me County Road Lots with no numbers I assume that Block is the same as Lot? A search at the Plymouth Registry of Deeds gave many entries for 341 County Road in Marion. By the dimensions given in the deeds, this must be Lot 5:

This works also as it is in the general area I am interested in. Here is part of an 1989 deed:

This refers to a deed from 1972 and an earlier parcel referenced in 1936. Here is the 1936 deed:

This deed refers to a deed of Elizabeth F Hathaway dated March 31, 1938. The later deeds refer to the NE portion of the First Parcel in this deed. At this point I need to look for a deed or a will for Elizabeth F Hathaway. Or the 1920 Census:

Here is Elizabeth on County Road with her husband David F Hathaway, 71 – living in Wareham.

Here is the Deed:

This mentions two parcels. The first is in Wareham and has no house. The second is across the County Road and has a house. I assume that this is where Elizabeth lived.

The 1850 Census for Rochester closes the loop:

This David F Hathaway was the son of David M Hathaway from the 1855 Plan of Marion. Marion was part of Rochester until about 1855, so David M and David F are shown as being born in Rochester. Their Rochester neighbor is Oren Vose.

David F closes the loop as far as people goes and implies a closed loop as to the inheritance of the land, but it would be a good idea to look at David M Hathaway’s Probate. I couldn’t find any but there may be deeds:

This seems to be the only one in the correct time-frame.

First I note that this deed is for Rufus F Hathaway Junior, so apparently the son of the one in the 1855 map. That explains why this Rufus is from Middleborough

Second, I note that David M Hathaway’s mother Rebecca B Hathaway is still alive at this time. Well, this could go on forever, so I’ll stop now.

Summary and Conclusions

  • I set out to find out David Hathaway’s house location. I didn’t find a specific place but narrowed it down to an area of Wareham
  • I did find what appears to be Simon Hathaway’s house location on a map. Simon was David’s father and my 6th great-grandfather (1711-1790).
  • That location was County Road on the then Rochester (now Marion) side. On my 1855 Marion map it was likely the house marked then as David M Hathaway.
  • The use of maps was most helpful in finding house locations. I found comparing maps to be helpful as not all maps are accurate.
  • My ancestor David Hathaway made tracking him difficult by selling all his Wareham lands to the Town of Wareham and giving away all his personal posessions to his son-in-law Joseph Jenne(y). As a result, David had no will and no probate.
  • Tracking David through deeds was helpful, but there were more than one David Hathaway in the area
  • I tried started with current deeds and going back but gave up
  • Given a lot more time and analysis, it may be possible to narrow down David’s house location more precisely.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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A Trip to the Plymouth County Registry of Deeds Part 2

In my previous Blog, I wrote about my Bradford ancestors, Josiah, Samuel and Harvey. In this Blog, I am interested in looking at the Plymouth County roots of my Snell ancestors. I know quite a bit about my Snell ancestors, but I’d be interested in trying to find out where they lived.

A Short History of Otis Snell

Here is Otis and his wife Mary Ann:

Otis was born in Dighton, MA in 1804. He went on an early whaling trip from New Bedford in 1821. Otis jumped ship in the Sandwich Islands (present-day Hawaii) on that trip. He made his way back to Nantucket where he married Mary Ann Parker in 1828. Otis had one child born in Nantucket and the next ten in Rochester, MA. Otis died in Rochester in 1889. Mary Ann died in Rochester in 1895.

Otis H Snell and Plymouth County Land Records

After spending 1$ per copy for deeds, I found out that a lot of this information is on-line. Here are the results for an on-line Registry search:

The first column should tell whether Otis was buying ‘EE’ or selling ‘OR’ land.

1843 Sale of Tillage Land to Joseph E Smith

This is the first deed, but it seems to mention where Otis lived. He bought the property from J Ruggles.

All I have to do is find a house near Nathaniel Bonney, the Constant S Mendall Store, Spring Brook and the Halls Farm. Here is the best I can do with an 1857 map:

Here I circled a store that is near a Mendall. I also circled the Bonney and Ruggles names. The map is interesting as it shows that the present-day Mary’s Pond Road did not go into the center of Town. If all else fails, I may be able to trace one of these deeds forward into the present by following a trail of grantors and grantees.

[For the corrected location, see below in the Blog.]

That same 1857 map shows O.H. Snell here:

I know this location, but it is probably not where Otis was living in 1843. At the end of 1843, Otis and Mary Ann already had five children. They likely moved to Rochester about 1835 as their first child was born in Nantucket in 1832 and their second child in Rochester in 1837.

1844 Sale of Land to Isaac Carlton

I don’t find out much from this deed except that Otis sold land near Isaac Carlton to Isaac Carlton. We don’t know if this land was near Otis’ house or not.

1848 Sale to George C Skiff

This deed could be important as it took place near the time of the 1850 Census.

This turns out to be a major document. The sale was at the considerable sum of $825. The deed does not say it, but I assume that this is where Otis and his family were living at the time. The road from Rochester to New Bedford is mentioned – probably the current New Bedford (or Perry Hill) Road. Isaac Carlton is again mentioned as well as Ebenezer Gammons and Zacheus Rider.

Here is an 1879 map of Rochester:

This map shows E.K. Gammons and I. Carlton. The N. Bonney is likely the Nathaniel Boney mentioned in the first deed above. Also the store could be the Mendell Store from the first deed. That would mean that the Snell house could be shown as the G.F. Henly house on the map. This house would have been about half-way between the current Mattapoisett Road and the Mattapoisett River. This would be roughly in the area of the current Captain Bonney’s Ice Cream:

Here is the 1857 Map:

Here the house is listed as G Healey. A second choice for the house would be the K Sherman house. That could mean that the Spring Brook could be the brook shown going into the Mattapoisett River to the North of and parallel to New Bedford Road.

The story seems to be that Otis Snell and family move from Nantucket to Rochester on New Bedford Road in about 1835 and sell that house in 1848 to move to Snipatuit Road. Constant Mendell and Harriet Church were witnesses to this Deed. Constant could be the C Mendell living near the intersection of Mattapoisett Road and New Bedford Road.

Next: Skiff to Cowing 1851

This property was sold to Henry Cowing in 1851:

Here we learn that Skiff was a mariner:

This is listed as a MTG rather than a deed. I’m not sure why. I don’t see any more listings for Henry Cowing in the Registry so this seems to be a dead end.

More on George C Skiff

According to Ancestry:

He married Elizabeth Cowing and sold property to Henry Cowing. In 1850 Skiff appeared to be living next to Carlton who was born in New Hampshire:

Unfortunately, George Skiff dies in 1852.

More on Henry Cowing

It looks like Henry also dies in 1855:

This is quite confusing. This mentions part of the estate of Henry Cowing not assigned to his widow. Eliza Skiff gets 5/6 but four of those 5/6 are purchased by other heirs. Then the remaining 1/6 she keeps as ‘heir at law’. Now Charles Ricketson gets one undivided sixth part bought by him of another heir.

This better describes the property:

This shows that the land was likely to the East of the land of Carlton and Healy. As Rickerson is mentioned in this probate record, perhaps the Rickerson (or Ricketson?) house and the Snell house were the same:

That would have to be my best guess for now – a bit further to the East and Mattapoisett Road than I had initially thought. Recall that George Skiff lived next to Isaac Carlton in the 1850. It appears that the Snell house, Skiff house and Ricketson house were one and the same.

More On Charles Ricketson

Here is the 1860 Census:

Eliza Skiff is a housekeeper for Samuel Cowing. Charles Ricketson born in Dartmouth is married to an Alice who was born in Taunton. Further down is Kelley Sherman, likely the K. Sherman of the map above and at the bottom of the page (not shown) is a George F Healy, trader, born in Abington. This would be the G Healy of the map.

Here is the deed where Ricketson buys Reuben Cowing’s claim on the homestead farm of George Skiff:

In this deed, Charles Ricketson is described as a stage driver. This homestead farm is further described as being near the “Centre Town Pound”.

Summary of Otis H Snell’s First Rochester House

  • Otis Snell first sells off part of his farm land for tillage in 1843. This land borders on the Constant Mendall Store and the Ebenezer Bonney property. There were two stores shown on the 1857 map, but it now seems that this store could be the one shown at the corner of Perry Hill Road and Mattapoisett Road.
  • In 1844, Otis sells some more land to Isaac Carlton. I now see where Isaac lived on New Bedford Road. Perhaps Otis as a mariner, didn’t need this farm land.
  • IN 1848, Otis sells his New Bedford Road farm to George Skiff who is married to Elizabeth Cowing.
  • George Skiff then sells the property to Henry Cowing in 1851 and dies in 1852
  • Henry Cowing dies in 1855.
  • In 1856, Charles Ricketson buys Reuben Cowen’s claim on the Skiff property.
  • In 1857, the probate is finalized. Charles Ricketson and Elisabeth Skiff are named, but Charles appears to end up in the house based on the 1860 Census and the Rochester map.
  • Based on all that, I associate the house labelled ‘C. Rickerson’ on the 1857 Rochester Map as the one that was owned by Otis H Snell up to 1848.

1867 Purchase from Otis Sherman

This is the first recorded purchase of Otis Snell. Apparently Otis had a habit of not recording the purchases of his first two dwellings in Rochester. This first recorded purchase appears to be for 12 acres of land to the North of where he lived on Snipatuit Road:

This deed mentions Charles M Blackmer, Henry Vaughan and Joseph Clark.

I don’t see Joseph Clark on this 1857 Map, but I do see C.M. Blackmer and L Vaughan. Perhaps Otis is getting away from his life at sea and settling down more on the farm. Here is another view of a map from 1856. I just didn’t pan out far enough:

The road from Vaughan to Clark is Neck Road today. J. Clark lived at the end of that road before there was a causeway across Snipatuit Pond.

1878 Sale to Gammons

I had to read this a few times as it was confusing. This was recorded in 1878 but is apparently for an earlier sale in 1845.

The question is where this land actually was – Perry Hill Road or Snipatuit Road? As Otis sold his Perry Hill Road property in 1847 (recorded 1848), my guess is that this would have been a sale from his Perry Hill Road property.

Probate for Isaac Parker 1851

Here is some information that I didn’t have before. Isaac Parker, who was the father of Mary Ann Parker has probate records. He is said to be late of Rochester. I had thought that Isaac had moved back to Falmouth and died there in 1842. On May 7, 1851, Theophilus King was set up as administrator. Here is the letter from Otis that got the ball rolling:

I assume that this letter was written in May of 1851. It shows that Isaac Parker was living in Rochester and died nearly a year ago – so in 1850. I checked Ancestry trees and all those who had a death for Isaac had the same date and place of death that I had.

Isaac had some small amount of real estate on Nantucket:

Isaac lived on Lower Pearl in Nantucket, so he must have had some property there:

This plan shows Isaac’s property at the top. There was a large fire in 1846 in Nantucket. This plan shows how the streets were widened after the fire. I assume that due to the widening of the street, the lot became too small for a house, so needed to be a store lot. Pearl is now India Street:

The property would be the one in the middle of the photo. I don’t know if this is the same house that Isaac lived in or whether it was rebuilt. The property appears to be currently Sweet Inspirations at Zero India Street:

Probate showed that Isaac owed more than he had:

This shows Isaac had a small store lot. It doesn’t say if a store was on the lot.

Here is another document from probate:

I scrolled through the Nantucket Deeds Indices and found this entry:

This deed gives some more history of the property:

“… a certain parcel of land situate on Pearl Street, Union Street, and Coal Lane in said Nantucket, bounded North by Pearl Street, East by Coal Lane, South by land formerly belonging to Eliza Bunker and West by Union Street, and being the residue of the land owned by Pamela Gardner, at her decease, a part of the land so owned by her having been taken by the Inhabitants of the Town of Nantucket, to widen Lower Pearl Street. The title to the same was acquired by said Isaac Parker by deed from Timothy M Gardner bearing date  13th 1823 recorded on  pages 336, 337 Book No. 27 of the Records of Deeds for the County of Nantucket…”

I had transcribed the 1823 deed previously on my Parker web page:

Know all men by these presents that I Timothy M. Gardner of Nantucket in the County of Nantucket Blockmaker in Consideration of Twelve hundred dollars paid by Isaac Parker of said Nantucket ship Wright the receipt whereof I do hereby acknowledge, do hereby give grant sell and convey unto the said Isaac Parker and to his heirs and assigns forever, my Dwelling House in said Nantucket where I now Live together with all the Land under, round and belonging to the same � bounded by the house and Land formerly belonging to Eliza Bunker Deceased and now occupied by Charles Hussey & on the South, and by the Street on the East West and North, with all the Fences out building Rights and Priviledges therein belonging. The one half of the above granted house and Land derived to me from [my?] late mother Pamela Gardner and the other half I bought of my brother Nathan [B Gardner?] including all the Land to the Northwest of said house that I bought of the Agent the proprietors of the Common and undivided Land To have and to hold the afore granted forever to the said Isaac Parker and to his heirs and assigns to his others use and Behoof forever and I the said Timothy M. Gardner for myself and heirs Executor Administration do covenant with the said Isaac Parker his heirs and assigns that I Lawfully Seized in fee of the afore granted premises that they are free of all Encumbrances; that I have good right to sell and convey the same to the said Isaac Parker and that I will warrant and defend the same hereunder to the said Isaac Parker his heirs and assigns forever against the lawful claims and Demands of all persons in witness whereof I the said Timothy M Gardner and my wife Lydia, …

Recorded June 13th 1823

So Isaac lost some money in this transaction. He paid $1200 for the property and ended up getting after his death $52.50 for the property from Seth Cathcart at auction.

More on Isaac Parker

The above deeds affirm where Isaac likely lived. However, I have found no record for the death of Isaac Parker. Here is one potential record:

However, this Isaac was a younger Isaac:

Perhaps there is a newspaper record of Isaac’s death. This is a case where an Otis Snell Deed lead to an Isaac Parker Deed and a new understanding on when and where Isaac Parker died. My guess is that he was staying in the house of Otis Snell and Mary Ann Parker Snell. He likely died before the 1850 Census.

Otis’ 1882 Sale to Albert F Snell

Here Otis sells land to his son:

The land appears to be to the South of Otis’ land.

1883 Purchase From Zachariah W Rider and Olive L Clark

This deed starts out saying that Otis is from Fall River:

If this is not an error Otis briefly moved to Fall River between living on Perry Hill Road and Snipatuit Road in Rochester. Here is some more information:

 

 

 

 

 

Probably part of what is throwing me off is that this sale was actually in 1849 and recorded 34 years later!

That means that Otis sells his property on Perry Hill Road at the end of 1847. He lives in Fall River for a little over a year, then buys the Snipatuit Road property from Zachariah Rider and Olive Clark in 1849. This apparently was the house previously owned by Barnabas Clark.

1883 Purchase From Walter A and Mary C Davis

There were quite a few people involved in this deed:

This was also originally from earlier (and at Bristol County):

This means that it may be worthwhile to check the Bristol Registry of Deeds for documents.

This deed mentions the home farm of Zachariah W Rider deceased and the garden of Eliza A Tinkham. Here the 1857 map of Rochester shows an R Tinkham near Otis

Also a Mrs. C Rider. This is where my grandparents Jim and Marion Hartley lived 100 years later. Here is the 1860 Census:

This at least shows Eliza Tinkham.

Otis to Isiah Snell Deed 1883

This would be from my 3rd great-grandfather to my 2nd great-grandfather. There were three recordings in a row. I think I see what is happening:

Otis is selling his house and lands to his son Isaiah. However, the house and lands were contained in two deeds which were not previously recorded, so he records the two earlier deeds and then sells the property to his son. However, even this 1883 recorded deed is back-dated to 1868:

That means that Otis likely moved from the Snipatuit Road location soon after this time to Neck Road.

1884 Snell to LeBaron Deed

This is the final Snell Deed recorded at the Plymouth Registry of Deeds. This deed is interesting as it mentions the shore of Snow’s Pond.

This is how I roughly picture this deed:

This Southwest portion of the pasture land hits the shore of Snow’s Pond and a right of way is needed across from Otis’ house to get to this land. This last deed, at least, was fairly straightforward. Also the land was likely smaller than shown as it was only an acre. Perhaps like this:

Summary and Conclusions

  • By looking at deeds, I have gotten an idea of the three places that Otis H Snell lived in Rochester, MA and when he lived there.
  • These places were current day New Bedford Road or Perry Hill Road (about 1835-1848), probably briefly in Fall River in 1848-1849, Snipatuit Road (1849-1868) and Neck Road (1868-1889).
  • I’ve gained appreciation for paying attention to the details of these deeds as the recorded date was not always the date of the original deed.
  • I also found probate records for Mary Ann Parker’s father, Isaac Parker. These records indicate that he died in Rochester about 1850. However, I could find no other death records to back that up. Previously, I had thought that Isaac died in Falmouth in 1842.`
  • I also found a deed for Isaac Parker where his store lot in Nantucket is sold off at auction to pay off his debts after his death.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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A Trip to the Plymouth County Registry of Deeds Part 1

I was off to the Plymouth County Registry of Deeds to record my mortgage discharge. While there, I though I’d check out some genealogical land records for my Bradford and Snell ancestors. In this Blog I’ll look at one of my Bradford ancestors and land they held across from the Training Green in Plymouth.

Harvey Bradford and the Plymouth Training Green

Harvey Bradford born about 1809 is the weak link between myself and Governor William Bradford of Pilgrim fame. One of the best records I have for him is in a land deed. That 1816 land deed connects him to the Training Green in Plymouth:

In my transcription above Harvey was listed in the sale of a house from his family to Henry Bartlett, Jr. This house was on the North side of the Training Green. To the West of the house was a way leading from the meeting house in the Third precinct. To the East was Deacon Lot Harlow Land. It seems with all that description I should be able to find where this house was. I assume that this was Harvey’s father Samuel’s house and where Harvey grew up.

On the way to the Registry, I passed the Green:

Technically North of the Green is at the intersection of N Green and Sandwich. However, the fact that there is a North Green leads me to believe that North could have been to the upper left of the map above.  There are only four houses on North Green Street, so my thought was that the Bradford house could be the one on the corner of North Green and Pleasant.

It was clear to me that this house was a newer one or seriously rebuilt:

I did walk from the bottom of the street to the top. The house at the bottom was the Benjamin Bartlett House from 1726. The next house up was listed as the Jesse Harlow House from about 1800. There were no plaques on the top two houses.

Next, I checked a Fire Insurance map from 1885:

This map shows no house on the corner of Pleasant and N. Green, so the house there now was built some time after 1885.

Also no house there in 1879:

Here’s an 1857 Map of the area:

Now we are back up to four houses on this little Street. That means that the Bradford house disappeared sometime between 1857 and 1879. One interesting thing is that there is a S Bradford at the corner of Commercial and Sandwich. He is surrounded by Churchill’s [possibly Samuel, son of Samuel Bradford?]. I have that Harvey’s father Samuel Bradford married Lucy Churchill. The name on the map above associated with the house I think was my ancestor’s looks like W Straffin or Straflin. This could be the W Straffin:

Looks like he got property from Daniel Gale. From there I go back to 1818:

I picked the Bates to Gale deed because the Street name was blank on both. Now I’m getting lost. [See later in the Blog for the correction.]

The Bradford House Going Forward

I tried going backward from an 1857 Map and got lost. The Bradford House and Land near the Training Green was sold in 1816 to Henry Bartlett Junior. On my trip to the Registry of Deeds I saw that Henry Bartlett Junior turned around the next year and sold the land in 1817 to Joseph Avery.

Hopefully the answer would be in one of these deeds:

However, I wonder if Joseph dies after 1824. Then the land could have been conveyed by inheritance. According to the deed I got at the Registry, this Joseph Avery was a bookbinder.

Deacon Lot Harlow Land Next to the Samuel Bradford Land

I did find a deed on-line for Deacon Lot Harlow from 1805. He was Samuel Bradford’s neighbor:

This was a family transaction:

Short story: this lot was between my ancestor Samuel Bradford on the West and Lazarus Harlow on the East. So I am back to 1805, but no mention of Jesse Harlow. Apparently this house used to belong to Deacon Lot Harlow’s father John Harlow.

How Did Samuel Bradford Get His Land Near the Training Green?

Samuel got this property from Nathaniel Ripley:

Here’s the whole 1793 deed. Only 226 years old:

Apparently Nathaniel Ripley and Samuel Bradford were both mariners. The Bartlett name is here also:

Samuel paid 8 pounds, so this was before the time of the dollar.

Here we learn that this property previously  belonged to Abigail Bartlett who had died. She was the wife of Benjamin Bartlett and received that property after Benjamin died. The wives of Nathaniel and Joseph are also mentioned:

Here is some more on the Bartlett/Ripley connection:

It looks like Nathaniel Ripley was a Captain married to Elizabeth Bartlett, daughter of Benjamin and Abigail. Here is a Reference from the Mayflower Descendant Richard Warren Book (Vol 18, part 2):

I assume that this was the widow’s dower mentioned in the Samuel Bradford deed.

This is also interesting in that there was no house on the property in 1793. Benjamin Bartlett is mentioned in this deed. He is likely the one who built this house on the lower corner:

The garden to the Bartlett house mentioned in the deed must have been to the left of the house. This Bradford deed gives me more certainty that I have been on the right track.

Tracing 7 North Green from Present Going Back in Time

One tedious way to look at this is starting with the Plymouth Assessor’s Office and going back through deeds:

The lot that Samuel purchased was fairly small. This lot is 0.075 acres, so would be a good match. I traced this back to 1948:

There was a hint on this deed:

I’m glad that this deed mentioned a previous deed as Bumpus is not mentioned on the previous deed. So this deed gets us back to Hannah T Weston in 1896. I feel like I am getting closer:

This deed references an earlier deed in Book 409, pages 230-231:

Here I am getting a bit stuck. I’m having trouble finding this Book and Page. Hannah was the wife of George:

This was probably Hannah T Chase:

Fortunately, FamilySearch also has records. Here is Volume 409, page 230:

Page 231:

This page mentions William Straffin which is back where I was a while ago. This was the W Straffin on the map that showed occupants’ names.

Back to the Straffin Deed

This Straffin/Gale deed where I got stuck should be found in Book 164, page 104. A closer read of this deed shows that this is the wrong property. This must be the right one in 1857:

The Straffin/Spear deed shows that Straffin bought this property at auction for $8.50.

Turns out Spear is the administrator for Hannah Bartlett. This could get us back to the Bradford/Bartlett deed. For some reason, this house that Straffin bought was already called the Straffins house in 1857.

I assume that this Straffin house was the one originally occupied by my ancestor Samuel Bradford.

The Bartlett/Straffin Connection

On 21 November 1811 Henry Bartlett married Prudence Straffin. My guess is that this was Henry Bartlett Junior.

Avery/Bartlett Connection

There was a connection also between Avery and Bartlett. On 8 October 1816 Henry Bartlett Junior sold Joseph Avery a house for $1,350. That was quite a bit in those days. Henry’s wife Prudence agrees to give up her dower in the house. In that deed mention is made of Joseph’s mother:

More On Hannah S Bartlett

Hannah apparently died in 1855. A William Harlow applied to be her administrator because Hannah owed him the most money, but the administrator role was awarded to William H Spear. A note on the record refers to her as a:

More On Henry Bartlett, Junior

The Samuel Bradford house on the Training Green in Plymouth got sold to Henry Bartlett Junior in 1816. This Henry Bartlett the second may be the same person here:

It appears that he died in 1827 and Ezra Finney was named administrator. This was probably the same one who sold to Joseph Avery.

That means that I am missing something between 1817 and 1857.

More on Joseph Avery

Joseph Avery was a bookbinder in Plymouth. His father, also Joseph Avery was apparently a clergyman in Holden.

In Joseph Avery’s Inventory of Real Estate, I don’t see the property by the Training Green:

Avery’s Pew

In a custom that has not carried to this day, pews in the Church were sold. This Registry of Deeds record describes Avery buying a pew from Stephen and Lucy Churchill:

This is interesting because Stephen and Lucy Churchill were the parents of Lucy Churchill who married Samuel Bradford. If I have the right couple, they would have been quite old as Stephen was born in 1743 and Lucy in 1745. I don’t have death dates for either person, so this document could narrow things down.

Other Churchill Deeds

This has me wondering if there were other Churchill deeds around this time. Here is one where Stephen sells his cooper shop to Samuel in 1813:

 

However, was this Samuel the father born about 1755 or Samuel Bradford the son born 1788?

It turns out that Samuel’s father-in-law Stephen Churchill was also his second cousin:

Other Legal Documents for Samuel Bradford

I mentioned above that it appeared that Samuel bought the cooper’s shop from his father-in-law Stephen Churchill in 1813. In this 1819 court document, it appears that Samuel Bradford has passed away if I am reading it right. It looks to me that Samuel has an administrator named Bartlett Bradford. I can make a guess as to who these other Bradford’s are. Samuel’s eldest was Lucy. She married Bartlett Bradford in 1807 at First Church, Plymouth. Bartlett’s father was James Bradford. It looks like Bartlett was going after money owed to his deceased father-in-law.

This says Samuel Bradford, but a case near it was in 1825 (vol. 14, p. 62), so possibly Samuel, the son of my ancestors Samuel.

Telling the Story of Samuel and His Property at the Training Green

According to the Mayflower Families Bradford Book, Samuel was the fourth of nine children born between Josiah in 1754 and Charles who was baptized in 1756. That could put his birth in 1755. That birth order was likely derived from another deed:

Growing up, the family lived mostly in Plymouth, but for a while also in Middleborough. Samuel’s father Josiah was originally a mariner but mostly was a cordwainer. On 10 Jan 1757, Josiah Bradford and family were warned from Middleborough. In 1763 Josiah Bradford and family, from Middleborough, were warned from Plymouth. Warning was a way for a Town to get rid of someone they didn’t want – either bacause they were trouble or they needed Town support. The idea was that their home town should be dealing with them and that you couldn’t just move to another town if you were a liability. Here is one court case that mentions Josiah:

There is no date on this case, but it was probably about 1759. Here another case involving someone from “Plimpton”:

This must be the Warning from Middleborough:

No reason is given for the warning other than they are not inhabitants. Here is the warning from Plymouth:

I assume that this warning was ignored or appealed. This would have put the family in a Catch 22. They couldn’t be in Middleborough or Plymouth. This gives me the sense of an unstable home life for the family. Samuel’s father Josiah died in 1777 during the time of the Revolutionary war.

Eight years later, Samuel married Lucy Churchill in 1785. She was one of nine children of Stephen Churchill and Lucy Burbank. Perhaps Samuel was working at Stephen’s cooper shop when he met Lucy. At any rate, Samuel changes his profession from mariner to cooper.

On 26 April 1777, Samuel’s father, Josiah dies. This was an interesting time as it was during the Revolutionary War. That brings up the question of what Samuel was doing during the Revolutionary War. I haven’t found any obvious record of his service in that War. Samuel was listed as a mariner, but apparently got into the cooper business through his father-in-law Stephen Churchill. Samuel married Lucy Churchill in 1785.

Here is some Samuel Bradford family chronology:

  • Samuel Bradford born about 1755
  • 1757-1759 Samuel appears to be living in Middleborough where his father is listed as a cordwainer. Was Samuel’s birth not recorded because they weren’t supposed to be living in Middleborough?
  • 1763 or 1765 – The Mayflower Families Book says that Samuel’s father Josiah was warned from Plymouth in 1763. However, the transcription above says this happened 12 Feb 1765 and that they moved to Plymouth from Middleborough the previous May (1764)
  • 1772 – Samuel’s father Josiah given eighty acres of land by his mother Elizabeth Finney Bradford. The land is to the East of Gunner’s Exchange Pond
  • 1773 Samuel’s father Josiah buys land from Henry Richmond near South Pond where his house is already located
  • 26 April 1777 – Samuel’s father Josiah dies
  • 26 Oct 1777 – Samuel’s mother Hannah becomes a member of the Plymouth Church
  • Lucy Bradford born 1787
  • Samuel Bradford born 1788
  • 19 May 1790 – Samuel’s mother Hannah Rider dies

Other Samuel Bradford Deeds

At this point, I went looking for more records for 1790 and found another deed:

This deed names William Bradford, Cordwainer, Samuel Bradford, Charles Bradford, Zephaniah Bradford, Married Hannah Bradford, Betsy Bradford, Lois Bradford, Mercy Bradford, spinsters all of Plymouth. [But where is Josiah, son of Josiah?] They sold land for 5 pounds to Rosseter Cotton. This land was near South Pond, Plymouth and was 1-1/2 acres. Further mention is that their father Josiah had bought this land from Henry Richmond on Sept 14th 1773.

Here is South Pond which is also a village in Plymouth:

Here is the earlier deed reference:

This is actually quite interesting. The question is why a mariner would buy land from a ‘Husbandman’. The answer is within the deed:

…one acre and a half more or less of land lying near South Pond in said Plymouth being part of my [Henry Richmond’s] homestead, and is the piece of land where said Bradford’s House stands and is all included within fence and is twenty Rods long and sixteen Rods wide at one end and eight Rods at the other end. Being the easterly Part of my said Homestead Lands. – To have and to hold the same, with all the priveledges and appurtenances thereto belonging, (the Dwelling House being his before,)…

The deed suggests a few issues:

  • Why was Josiah Bradford’s house on Henry Richmond’s Land?
  • The deed does not state which side of the Pond the property was on.
  • Why is there no mention of the Bradford house in the 1790 deed?
  • I assume that Josiah Bradford’s children were raised at this dwelling house.
  • I don’t see this deed mentioned in the Mayflower Descendants Books, so in a sense this is ‘new’ evidence’. Or you might say one good deed leads to another.

Here is something on Henry Richmond:

It looks like Henry Richmond had something in common with Josiah Bradford, in that they were both warned out of Plymouth in 1765. This Henry was in Court a lot as a lot of people were trying to get money that Henry owed them.

The following deed is mentioned in the book, William Bradford of the Mayflower:

I had previously transcribed that deed:

I now see Zephaniah Bradford as Mariner (not married). This is for the sale of land to the East of Gunner’s Exchange Pond in Plymouth. Gunner’s Exchange Pond is to the Southeast of South Pond:

This was an important deed. This land was given to Josiah by his mother Elizabeth Finney Bradford in 1772. That deed refers to an earlier deed dated 6 Jun 1727. I haven’t looked up that deed, but apparently Elizabeth’s two brothers gave the land to their three sisters at that time.

Back to Samuel Bradford’s Chronology

  • 1791 – Stephen Bradford born
  • 1793 – Samuel buys land near the Training Green. Was he looking for a shorter commute for his Mariner profession? Samuel apparently has a house built around this time on this property.
  • January 1797 – Samuel and family sell to Joshua Wright and Joseph Samson 80 acres of land that their grandmother Elizabeth Bradford deeded to their father Josiah Bradford to the East of Gunner’s Exchange Pond.
  • August 1797 – Ellen Bradford born
  • 1800 – Hannah B Bradford born
  • 1809 – My ancestor Harvey Bradford born. His mother Lucy was about 41 at the time.
  • 1813 – Stephen Churchill, father-in-law of Samuel, sells his cooper shop to Samuel [probably the elder] Bradford
  • The Bradford house and land near the Training Green is sold on 8 October 1816 after Samuel’s death. That puts Samuel’s death at some time not too long before this date.

Summary and Questions

  • Looking at deeds and legal documents gave a lot more information on the Bradford family, food for thought and future research
  • I feel like I have the right property for the Samuel Bradford House on the Corner of Pleasant and North Green.
  • Samuel bought the land and apparently built a house there sometime after 1793. Samuel’s first three children Lucy, Samuel and Stephen were born before this time. Ellen, Hannah and Harvey were perhaps born in this house.
  • Samuel dies and the house is sold to Henry Bartlett Jr, in 1816 when Harvey is only about 7 years old
  • The next year the land is sold to bookseller, Joseph Avery. He dies in 1822, but there is no mention that he owns this property.
  • What happened to the Bradford family after the death of Samuel Bradford?
  • Looking at deeds gave more information on the Samuel Bradford family and the family of his father Josiah Bradford, including places where Josiah and family had lived

 

 

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Updates on Butler Genealogy

I had an email recently from Butler researcher Peter with a big find:

While I was getting ready to write this Blog, I came across another surprise. This was from the Charlotte County, New Brunswick records:

Anne Butler

Let’s start with Anne. I think that this record should say that her parents were Edward Butler and Mary Crowley. Perhaps this is Julia Ann who was three in 1860 in Cincinnati. If they are the same, This Anne would have been born about 1857 and would be about 44 in 1904.

But was Julia born in New Brunswick or Elizabeth City, NJ?

Here is a Julia in Nelson, New Brunswick:

William was widowed.

This is likely Annie who was a single laundress in 1901:

This is also likely the same person in 1896 in St John:

Just to be confusing, FamilySearch has a different version of the marriage license:

Now Anne is from Boston. I thought that this would be a lot easier.

Anne’s Death Record

One genealogy has Anne dying in Taunton, MA in July 1918. I did find a death record, but is this the right person?

This is a very confusing record. I’ll look at this closely:

  • Taunton was known as Taunton Mental Hospital. Could she have been in Taunton for the ‘senile psychosis’?
  • Husband Silas B. Deshon – As far as I know, there was only one Silas B Deshon. There is a listing for Silas in the 1919 Taunton Directory:

  • ‘Hannah’ was in the hospital for one year and two months. Silas apparently moved to Taunton for part or all of this period to take care of his wife.
  • Hannah is about 63. That would put her birth at 1855. I have about 1857. By the way, this is the first time I have seen her name as Hannah.
  • Birthplace: Elizabeth, NJ – This matches with one of her marriage records.
  • Father: Daniel O’Leary – No idea where this came from.
  • Mother: Mary Croak – This matches her marriage record. Julia Ann’s mother was Mary and her grandmother’s maiden name was Croak or Croke.
  • Place of Burial: New Britain CT – I don’t know the reason for this. This could be something to follow up on.

My conclusion is that this is the same person as the Julia Ann Butler in the 1860 Cincinnati Census – assumed to be the daughter of Edward H Butler and Margaret Crowley. The informant was hospital records, so that may explain some of the confusion.

Edward Butler’s Naturalization Papers

I had assumed that Edward Butler would have applied for Naturalization some time while the family lived in the Chicago area in the 1870’s. It turns out that he applied for US Naturalization much sooner than I realized.

This means that Edward was in the US for the 1850 Census. It also means that he came from Ireland to New York in 1843 then to Boston to St John to Cincinnati to Chicago and back to the Boston area.

Here is one possibility for Edward:

That seems to be this Boston couple from 1855 but the age differential has changed:

Here are the two that vouched for Edward:

These two look to be John Ryan and Hugh Gray.

or

Here is a 27 year old Edward in working at a farm in Dedham:

This is possibly the same Edward in 1855:

Edward Butler in the Boston Directories

Here are the entries for 1848-1849:

Here there are only three choices. Edward was probably a laborer and not a clerk. Below, I show that the Edward I’m interested in lived at 9 Belmont next to Hugh Gray at 8 Belmont Street. That means that the 44 Vine Edward is not ours. That means that the Edward at 18 Washington moved to 9 Belmont or moved out of the area and our Edward moved in in 1849.

Here are some Edward Butler’s from the 1849 Boston Directory:

My assumption is that the Edward I am looking for was a laborer. 9 Belmont seems to be in Charlestown:

There is a 44 Vine Street in the South of Boston:

1851 Boston Directory

This list is similar except there is an additional laborer at 18 Stillman in the North End of Boston:

Here is Hugh Gray in 1851:

Fortunately, there was only one Hugh Gray in the Boston Directory. That means that our Edward must have lived at 9 Belmont Street – unless this is a great coincidence.

There are many more John Ryan’s:

Here is Hugh Gray in the 1850 Census in Boston Ward 8 right next to Edward Butler:

Hugh married Ann Carr in Roxbury in 1847:

One would think that Ward 8 would be in Charlestown, but it isn’t:

Sorting Out Belmont Street

I assume that there was a Belmont Street in Boston that isn’t there today. Charlestown is not in Boston. The 1848-1849 Boston Directory gives the location for Belmont Street:

Here is where Edward and Hugh lived:

 

I would say based on proximity, that our Edward lived at 18 Washington Ave in 1848. That would be when he was 21. In 1856, this area was in Ward 7:

Edward Butler in 1850 and 1855

Unfortunately, the 1850 Census does not show relationships? Who was Bridget Butler – a sister or wife? Also Hugh Gray was from Canada. Would Hugh have influenced Edward going to Canada?

There is an Edward Butler and Bridget in the 1855 Massachusetts Census which reflects June 1 of that year. I have that Edward Butler married Mary Crowley on 1 May 1855 in St John. That means that at least the Edward Butler in the Massachusetts Census of 1855 is very unlikely to be the one that I am interested in.

The Boston Directory 1852

This is back down to four entries.

1856

I see Edward is still at Belmont in the 1856 Directory. Does this mean we have the wrong person?

It could mean that the 1856 Directory was a bit behind the time?

In 1856 Edward’s friend Hugh is here:

1865 Boston

I didn’t expect to see Edward at 9 Belmont.

Edward’s living in Boston could explain why he put down Boston for his wife’s and daughter’s birth in the 1870 Cincinnati Census:

Summary and Conclusions

  • The big news is the finding of Edward Butler’s Naturalization papers. This ties him down to Poulrone, Kilkenny Ireland and Boston around 1850 and gives some specifics as to how he got to the US.
  • Previously, I had thought that Edward had emigrated from Ireland to St. John, New Brunswick, as that would have been a normal point of entry. Edward apparently went against the tide and went from Boston to St John, married, had two daughters there and then moved to Cincinnati, then Chicago and then back to the Boston area.
  • The discovery of the Naturalization record lead to the discovery of Edward Butler in the 1850 Census in Boston where he was living with a Bridget Butler, one year younger than Edward. She also was born in Ireland.
  • Julia Ann Butler was born in New Brunswick about 1857 and showed up in the Cincinnati Census of 1860. After that I did not see her and suspected that she had died young. However, I discovered that she married Silas DeShon in St. John in 1904 at about the age of 47.
  • I further followed up on an Ancestry Tree lead and found a death record for Julia Ann (Hannah) Butler DeShon.

 

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A Short Teagarden Genealogy

I recently visited the State of Washington for the birth of my first grandchild Elora Pearl and had the pleasure of staying at a Pam’s house who had the last name of Teagarden. She felt that the name was German. I said that I could do some genealogy for her.

Nine Generations of Teagardens

In not too long, on my cell phone, I was able to find (including my host) nine generations of Teagardens:

I’ll call Pam generation 1 and go back from her.

Generation One – Pam

Here is Pam’s Senior High School photo from San Antonio, Texas:

Generation Two – Pam’s Father

Here is Gilbert Darwood’s photo a little cut off on the left:

The photo was from a Teacher’s college in Alpine, Texas, though Pam says her dad did not pursue teaching as a career.

Generation Three – Weldon John (Jack) Leo Teagarden (1905-1964)

Pam surprised me by pulling out a phonograph collection that featured her grandfather:

Jack Teagarden was a famous jazz trombone player. I found this short bio at Ancestry:

Born in 1905 in Vernon, Texas, Jack Teagarden was an influential jazz trombonist and singer, regarded as the “Father of Jazz Trombone.” His musical abilities were largely self-taught and for that reason, unrestricted. He developed innovative positions and effects on the instrument, and was known for his bluesy-style. He recorded with Louis Armstrong, among other notable jazz players.

Here is a snapshot of Weldon Leo (Jack) in 1920:

Jack is the oldest son. His father died in 1918, so when he was about 12. At this time, they were living in Nebraska.

Pam’s grandmother was Dee Ora Binyon. In 1930, she was living in her sister’s house in Rankin, Texas with her two children and working as a telephone operator while Jack pursued his musical career. Ora married Jack in 1924. At the time of the 1930 Census, Ora was listed as not married.

Generation Four – Charles Woodbury Teagarden (1878-1918)

The Wikipedia biography for Charles’ famous son Jack says:

His father was an amateur brass band trumpeter and started him on baritone horn; by age seven he had switched to trombone. His first public performances were in movie theaters, where he accompanied his mother, a pianist.

Here is Charles in 1910:

If my Google Map is right, Vernon is between Amarillo and Dallas:

In 1910, Charles’ occupation was listed as a ginner in the cotton gin industry. I was able to find an extensive biography of Charles at Ancestry:

Birth: Dec. 12, 1878 Grapeland Houston County Texas, USA Death: Nov. 3, 1918 Vernon Wilbarger County Texas, USA Son of John McGuire Teagarden and Sarah Beatrice Durham. Married Helen Giengar. Together they had four children. All of their children were top flight Jazz musicians. The most noted was Jack Teagarden. Charles was a “cotton gin man” – an outstanding oil mill engineer and mechanic; Chief Engineer for the Vernon Cotton Oil Co. Some say he was also a musician down in the Red River Country on the Texas-Oklahoma boarder, where they lived. It was “Woodie” who gave Jack a baritone horn when he was seven. Helen was a musician who used to play the piano in theatres in the days of silent movies. Abour her, Jack said, “I guess I was luckier than most fellows – my mother’s a teacher, a piano teacher, and still is (1963). She is only 16 years older than I am…she’s a very talented girl…she taught me how to read music and the first training I had was the right training.” From Teagarden Book – Vogt – 1988 “Woodie” died in the flu epidemic on 1918.

Generation Five – John Maguire Teagarden (1851-1928)

I found this photo of John at Ancestry:

This information is from findagrave.com:

John was the son Oswin Teagarden and Mehitable Baker.

John married Sarah Beatrice Durhan, Jan 10, 1878 in Floyd, Texas.
Together they had seven children
Charles Woodbury(twin), Mary Francis(twin) Lula Rose , William Albert (b. Sept 3, 1898 d. 1954), Minnie Bernice, Joseph Moore, and John Bailey.

Sarah died Nov 10, 1898 in Elctra, Texas and is buried there.

The oldest son, Charles Woodbury married and had 4 children before his early death in 1918. These children, Weldon, Norma, Charles and Eugene would become noted Jazz musicians. Weldon is known today as Jack Teagarden.

In 1900, John was a widowed farmer in Wilbarger County, Texas:

Vernon was also in Wilbarger County. This shows that John was born in Louisiana. However, by 1860, the family was living in Sumpter, Texas:

Generation Six – (1812-1887)

Here is Oswin and his wife Mehitabel Baker:

This couple got around a bit. The first useful US Census was in 1850:

Here, Oswin and Mehitabel and their young family are in Shrevesport, Louisiana. A Laborer was living in the house also but no age is given. I found this biography at Ancestry:

Son of John B Teagarden and Rosanna McGuire; husband of Mehitable Baker; Father of 11 including Joseph Oswin Teagarden.
Oswin was apprenticed to a boootmaker in Hebron, Ohio at an early age and for four years, experienced ill treatment. He did not follow this trade but engaged in the livestock business and drove herds as far east as Philadelphia. He then entered the mercantile business, first settling in Martinsburg, West Virginia. After their marriage, Oswin and his father-in-law, Artemas Baker (member of Congress from Ohio in 1825) ordered a flat-boat constructed in one of the boat yards on the Ohio River. They loaded on their families, a number of friends, their possessions and proceeded down the Mississippi River to New Orleans where they sold the boat. Then up the Red River by steamboat to Shreveport, Louisiana where Oswin spent the next three years as a merchant.

Artemas Baker and family continued overland to Dallas County, Texas and Oswin followed later to settle at Rusk in Cherokee County. His wanderings were in 3 year cycles and he next went to Dayton in Polk County. These trips were by wagon and eventually they moved to Sumpter in Trinity County where he had a large general store with a drug department.

As a druggist and homeopathic physician, Oswin was assigned as a Medical Purchasing Agent by the Confederate States of America for the Army of the Mississippi. He often made trips to New Orleans disguised as a Dutch peddler. On one occasion when he had $4000 in gold on his person (his own money) intending to buy scarce goods for his store, he was arrested but a squad of Federal soldiers. Realizing he would be searched and his money taken, he clamored to be sent to General Butler. The squad agreed to take him to the General but Oswin managed to lose himself in the crowded street. He had four years of service in the Army.

Early in the war between the states, two companies of volunteers were orgainzed in Trintiy county for the Confederate Army and Charles(Oswin’s son) enlisted in one of them. Although over the conscription age, his father (Oswin) enlisted and took his sons place; as a druggist, the son would be exempt and with the help of clerks could conduct their large store. – Teagarden Book

Joseph Teagarden’s memories of his father writen 1953 when he (Joe) was in his 70’s.
“I have said very little about my father and I shall try to record what I can remember of the best man I ever knew. A man who had no enemies and like my mother was revered by all in the little town.
He was an indulgent father, never even scolded me but once, which I deserved. I am unable to place the time on the all these few memories of my patents, but one occasion, I think it was during the war, he came home during the Christmas Holidays and on horseback and in riding by the house on the way to the stables in the rear, he tapped on the windows of the dinning room with his riding whip. The house being built on a corner lot and to the property line, had no fence on the front and sides. He rode along the side of the house on which the dinning room windows opened. So when he tapped on the window the larger children cried out that there was Dad and all was excitement. 
Another time some years later, possibly 1870, in the spring, when all six of us sons of the family and my father went fishing. Walking to Piney Creek nearly two miles away, when the older ones, impatient at our progress were walking too fast for me. My father called a halt saying they were walking too fast for him. Which surprised me as I was the littlest one and hadn’t thought he was getting tired. 
I remember I caught the second best string of fish, Sam beating me by one or two. 
Another time when only four of us boys with Mother and Father went to the same creek bottom to gather backberries, where they were in great profusion in the cane brakes. On this occasion we went in conveyances, possibly the old folks and myself in a buggy and the others on horseback. 
Another vivid memory was when my father had taken a long trip to Austin attending the legislature lobbying for some northern capitalists seeking charter for two railroads – He succeeded in securing both charters, but on his way home he was taken sick and for some time, possibly two or three weeks we had no word from him. Mother becoming alarmed wrote to several prominent masons in that section. Soon after this he returned home barely able to travel. I rememeber that he was very sick for some time. One reason for my mother’s uneasiness was the fact that at the time there were many murders and robberies on the roads and my father was driving a very beautiful span of matched bay horses, very valuable ar the time.”
From Joe Teagardens “Life of an Ordinary Man” 

Family Members

Parents

John B Teagarden

1779 – unknown

Rosanna McGuire Teagarden

1780–1817

Spouse

Mehitabel Baker Teagarden

1816–1898

Siblings

John Marion Teagarden

1810–1870

James Ulysses Teagarden

1813–1853

Half Siblings

William Teagarden

1819–1888

Children

Louisa Teagarden

1842–1843

Charles Artemas Teagarden

1843–1888

Rose Ellen Teagarden Evans

1846–1889

Mary Oconasta Teagarden Adams

1849–1941

John McGuire Teagarden

1851–1928

William Baker Teagarden

1854–1933

Samuel Teagarden

1856–1940

Timothy Oliver Teagarden

1858–1942

Joseph Oswin Teagarden

1861–1954

That covers a lot. The Census lists Oswin’s birthplace as Virginia, but the findagrave index lists his birth as Pennsylvania:

This web site on the Teagarden family refers to Oswin as a confederate smuggler.

Generation Seven – John B Teagarden (1779-1830)

I don’t have quite as much on John B Teagarden:

I did find this short account:

From Find A Grave:

John was born near Old Redstone Fort. His parents are William Teagarden and Bethia Craig. He married twice. First marriage was to Rosanna McGuire in 1805. They had 6 children; Louisa, George, Bethia, John Marion, Oswin, and James U. 
After Rosanna’s death in 1817, John remarried Sarah Ripley Hartwell. Together, Sarah and John had one child, a son, William.
John died about 1830 

Generation Eight – William Teagarden (1746-1814)

Here we are in the Revolutionary period. Again, I rely on the findagrave.com website:

Private Pennsylvania Militia, Revolutionary War
William Teagarden, son of Abraham and Mary (Parker) Tegarden, was born in 1746, probably at “Tecart’s Delight” near Hagerstown, Maryland. He inherited land along the Monongahela River, near present-day Fredericktown, Pennsylvania. In addition to farming, he operated the Monongahela ferry at Tenmile Creek.

During the War for Independence, he served as a private in Captain James Mc Lean’s Company of the “Invalid Regiment,” Pennsylvania Militia, in 1783, and saw action in the defense of Washington County. Such resistance on the part of the frontiersmen in the rear helped make possible the Continental Army’s success on the front. He served also as a Frontier Ranger in the Pennsylvania Militia under Captain James Seals 1793-94, the unit responsible for the defense of Greene County against the Indians.

Family lore tells that William, intending to follow his friend John Hardin to new settlements opening in Kentucky after Independence, sold the Monongahela property and received payment in Continental currency, which soon thereafter became worthless. In a state of near-bankruptcy, he was forced to abandon his plans, and instead settled on land he claimed on Wheeling Creek in the West Finley Township, Greene County, Pennsylvania, where he remained until his death.

William married Bethia Craig, daughter of John Craig of Harford County, Maryland, and had 13 children.

Here is Greene County in the SW part of Pennsylvania:

Here is the Wheeling Creek in West Finley:

According to this website, William was buried in the Teagarden Cemetery in Richhill, PA:

Here is the family cemetery, not far from West Finley:

Generation Nine – Abraham Teagarden Born 1718 Germany

Pam knew that her ancestors went back to Germany, but perhaps didn’t realize that it was such a long time ago. I see this entry in Ancestry for Abraham Teagarden:

The question here is whether the Senior or Junior Teagarden is the father of William Teagarden. A Teagard Early History posted at Ancestry indicates that it was Abraham Teagarden II who married Mary Parker:

That gives us two more generations back to Christian Tegarden. I have a reference to the website here. The author was interested in an Elizabeth Teagarden who was the sister of William Teagarden. The parents through great-grandparents listed above were for Elizabeth Teagarden.

The Tegarden family was from the area of Solingen, Germany:

Solingen was famous for the making of blades or swords. The above genealogy notes that some of these Tegardens were from Meigen and associates Meigen with Meissen, Germany. However, I believe that Meigen was a part of Solingen. There is currently a Meigen and Meigener Street to the East of the City of Solingen:

These Streets are also near an area called Theegarten.

That finished my brief genealogy of the Teagardens. I actually went back 11 generations. Christian Tegarden was born in 1650.