I was looking at my wife’s Aunt Lorraine’s DNA matches at Gedmatch recently. I found that she matched Denis:
I was also able to find Denis at Ancestry:
His tree was modest, but was something that I could work with.
Finding a Common Ancestor Between Denis and My Wife’s Family
The next step is to build my own tree for Denis. My assumption is that the match is on the Lefevre side as my wife’s aunt’s mother was a LeFevre. As soon as I enter Denis’ parents into my tree, I start getting hints.
I see that my wife’s second great grandfather was Edmond Lefevre born in Saint-Antoine-de-Tilly, so I feel I am on the right track.
Here is the baptismal record for Denis’ father Ernest:
Ernest’s father was Odilon. We further learn that Ernest’s mother’s name was Alma LeFleur.
Odilon LeFevre Born 1874
Next I would like to focus in on Odilon:
Here he is in 1881:
This appears to be three generations of LeFevre’s: Lazare, Joseph and Odilon. Here is Lazare from my wife’s grandmother’s tree:
Linking Joseph to Lazare
I next just need to show that Joseph was the son of Lazare. Here is a portion of Joseph’s marriage record:
This establishes that Joseph was the son of Lazare, “Notaire”. From what I understand, a notaire would be a sort of paralegal.
That means that we have a connection. I have a small LeFevre tree already, but it needs updating:
Let’s add Lazare and Denis:
According to this tree, Lorraine and Denis are third cousins. There may be other connections further back, but I will disregard those connections for the time being.
Mapping Denis’ DNA to My Wife’s Aunt Lorraine
The match between Denis and my wife’s Aunt Lorraine is either from Lazare LeFevre or Adelaide Bouré. We don’t know which without further DNA analysis. Here is what I have for Lorraine on her maternal side so far:
Lorraine’s DNA is 37% mapped out on her maternal side and 22% totally mapped (maternal and paternal). This would show as pink above. Denis bumped up Lorraine to 38% mapped maternally. Here is Denis’ contribution highlighted in gray:
He brings new information on Chromosomes 3, 5, 11, 12 and 16.
On Chromosome 11, it is truly new information. On Chromosome 12, it is already covered by RL, Sandra and Caroline.
Painting On My Father-in-law
I’m a bit behind on Richard as I don’t have a category for Lazare LeFevre and Adelaide Bouré. Richard has a more modest match with Denis:
When I paint this on to Richard’s DNA map, I see something interresting on Chromosome 5:
This shows that Richard’s DNA match with Denis is overlapping with Richard’s DNA match with Michelle. This is where I have a problem with my key. I had thought that Michelle’s common ancestor was Methot, but it is actually with Joseph Martin LeFevre born 1874. I need to differentiate my colors better. I changed Methot to yellow, so that it will be less confusing in the future;
Adjusting My Tree
Now that I know where Denis belongs in my tree, I can add him in:
That should help AncestryDNA figure out the ThruLines.
Speaking of ThruLines
Here are Lorraine’s ThruLines for Lazare LeFevre:
There is one match on the Joseph Line with Brad.
More Painting for My Wife’s Aunt Susy
I haven’t been paying as much attention to Aunt Susy’s DNA Map:
However, she has nice colors. Here is her match with Denis at Gedmatch:
I’ll need to add Lazare in to DNAPainter. Here is Aunt Susy’s maternal side:
DNA Painter gave me a boring color, but a chose a brighter color for Lazare and his wife. Susy was 33% painted maternally and 21% overall. Denis bumped these numbers up to 36% on the maternal side and 22% overall.
Denis and My Wife
Unfortunately, my wife and Denis do not share a lot of DNA.
Denis and Marie are third cousins once removed. That should translate to 4.5 generations to their common ancestors. That means that Denis and Marie share a little less than average for that relationship.
Painting this on to Marie’s map does not add any missing areas:
However, it does confirm the match with Caroline and others.
More on Caroline
I should have added Caroline to my LeFevre DNA tree. Caroline is at MyHeritage:
Charles Lefebvre shows as 1891. I checked my old blogs and see that the tree had “before 1891. Here is Lazare in 1851:
Charles is 9, so was born around 1842. The birthplace for all is Ville Quebec which I take to be Quebec City. I made a new tree with Caroline in it:
I’m sure that this tree could get quite big. This is what Marie has for ThruLines at AncestryDNA:
Outside of the Edmond Lefevre Line, Marie has 9 matches from 5 siblings of Edmond. And when I expand the Charles Line, I find Caroline in the photo:
Marie J G above is Marie Josephine Gratia who went by Gratia.
Summary and Conclusions
- I started by looking at the DNA of Denis. I painted his DNA onto my wife’s map as well as my wife’s father’s and two aunts’ maps.
- Marie’s father had a smaller match with Denis compared to the matches of his two sisters. Marie’s match was even smaller.
- I made a DNA tree for LeFevre/Lefebvre
- This tree included Caroline who I had mapped previously. She also appears on my wife’s ThruLines at Ancestry.
- I was able to map Marie’s family’s DNA connection to Caroline because she also has her DNA at MyHeritage.