In my previous Blog on the Rooneys, I looked at how my wife’s Rooney ancestors may be connected to another Rooney line by DNA and genealogy. I came up with a proposed genealogy/dna chart that looked like this:
Triangulation With the Rooney DNA Match
Triangulation is when three or more people all match each other on an overlapping segment of the Chromosome. This happens on Chromosome 14. Here are the Rooney DNA match’s matches with my father in law Richard (1), his sister Lorraine (2) and Gaby (3):
A Triangulation Group (TG) indicates a common ancestor. In this case, I believe the common ancestor to be Timothy Rooney:
Jenny’s Rooney Connection
There is another Rooney connection. Jenny doesn’t match my wife’s family as strongly as the Rooney match in purple above does.
It looks like Jenny has also tested her brother. The above chart shows that Jenny is a second cousin to the Rooney match discussed in my previous Blog.
Virginia and Richard match Jenny on Chromosome 11 from about 118 to 124M on the Chromosome Browser:
The DNA I have mapped for Virginia and Richard corresponds to their Kerivan grandparent:
This Kerivan mapped grandparent is the same one shown in green on the genealogy/dna chart above. It represents Lilly Kerivan, daughter of Alice Rooney.
Just so we don’t leave out Jenny’s brother, here are some of his matches with my wife’s family on Chromosome 3:
These matches are with Richard, Virginia and John. In my opinion, each match between my wife’s side and Jenny would represent DNA from Timothy Rooney born about 1807.
Here is Richard and Virginia’s Chromosome 3 mapped out.
The Rooney match would be in a Kerivan segment. That means that the dark red segment is probably Kerivan. The blue and purple above are on my father in law’s mother’s French Canadian side.
More Rooney Genealogy: Are Timothy and Terrence the Same?
Jenny and and her 2nd cousin Daniel have in their trees as their first Rooney ancestor Terrence Rooney. That is not surprising considering the marriage record of their great great grandfather, John Rooney:
Above are the listed parents for John Rooney and his wife. The date of the record is May 19, 1851. The record is for the Intentions of Marriage, so this would have been soon before the couple was married. Here is a marriage record for a John A and Mary Rooney:
The date of marriage was listed as May 9, 1851. Here quite a few things seem off. The wife is now Mary Rooney rather than McDermott and both parents are Patrick. They are listed as being in Boston rather than Dorchester although both places are very close. Note that John is a mason here. After a bit of digging, it appears that there were two John Rooneys of about the same age that married two Mary’s of about the same age. Isn’t that confusing!
A proposed sketch of Timothy Rooney
My thought is that Timothy Rooney, son of John Rooney and Ann was born in County Leitrim around 1807. He married Margaret Ann Gorman around 1828. Around 1830, he had a son that he named after his father John. Timothy’s first wife likely died and he then married Ann Nancy Lilly probably around 1832. She had about 10 children between 1834 and 1851. John took off for Boston not too long before he married in 1851. Timothy landed in Boston in 1858 with his wife and some of his children in June 1858:
The 1860 Census shows Tim and family in Waltham:
Timothy died in Newton at the age of 74 in 1881. His occupation was listed as mason.
Summary and Conclusion
- The DNA leads me to think that Terence and Timothy Rooney are the same person.
- If they were the same person, the timing would seem to fit in. He would have had time to have two wives giving birth to the children that we know of.
- The fact that Jenny, John and Gaby have matches seem to reinforce that the DNA that these two families share focus in on Timothy or Terrence Rooney.
- I can’t prove that Terrence and Timothy Rooney by either the genealogy or the DNA. However, the DNA does point to a common ancestor. Why couldn’t that ancestor be Timothy or Terrence?