In my previous Blog I looked at some Theories for myself, my Frazer cousin Paul and my mother. In this Blog, I will continue to go down the new theories list.
My Frazer Theory with Christopher
I have done a lot of work on Frazer DNA and genealogy, so let’s check this one out:
Christopher has an American Flag by his name, but he shows his parents were from Australia. Christopher’s paternal side tree goes back to Mary Frazer:
I feel like Christopher will connect, so I will build a floating tree for him in my family tree and then connect it – assuming he fits in. According to Ancestry, it was Christopher’s grandfather who moved from Sligo to Australia:
I would expect to find grandfather Thomas in the 1901 Ireland Census:
He was in Kilmactranny Parish where my Frazer ancestors lived.
According to Google, the Townland is actually Drumsoghla bordering Loch Arrow and County Roscommon:
My relatives live on the NE side of Loch Arrow. As expected, Thomas’ father is George Acheson. And it is George’s mother that I am looking for.
Here is the family in the same place in 1911:
I assume that it was George who did not want the Frazer name to be forgotten. All the boys in the house have a Frazer in their name. It appears that George also made his way to Australia:
Here is George’s
burial place in Tasmania:
How to Get from George to Mary Frazer?
This is some of the information on Christopher’s tree:
From fellow Frazer researchers I have this information:
There were two Mary Frazers born in 1828. The one that Christopher has was apparently the daughter of John Frazer and Isabella. It looks odd that William was born 12 July, but Mary was baptized 22 July. I am looking at my old Frazer Genealogy Web Page and see this:
That means that Isabella would have been the sister of Violet Frazer who was my 3rd great-grandmother. That means that Christopher descends from the Richard Frazer and Archibald Frazer Lines. That puts Christopher most closely related to Michael in my Frazer DNA Trees:
This is the side I am more closely related on:
Here I am a 4th cousin once removed to Michael.
Here is some more information from my web site:
OK, I guess I’ll go with what I have. I connected the my floating tree for Christopher with my own tree. I now just have to add Christopher to two of my Frazer DNA Trees:
Christopher and I are 5th cousins on this tree:
Now Michael is not so lonely on his branch. I am one generation further out on the Archibald Line as we descend from Archibald father of Archibald.
DNA Painter
I have a lot going on in my 7th Chromosome:
The red match at the beginning of the Chromosome is where I match Christopher. It is possible I match him a generation further back at Archibald, but more likely it is from Richard Frazer. There appears to be a little overlap with Susan and Ken. However, they descend from James and Violet Frazer. Likely the overlap indicates that the DNA shared with Susan and Ken is from Violet who is the daughter from Richard Frazer as is Isabella. It is interesting that I connected to someone on an Acheson Line as I know I have at least one other Acheson DNA match that I haven’t figured out yet.
Going Through my Sister Heidi’s Theories
I am just looking for Theories that are likely to be real. I see Inguna from my last Blog, so I can add her to Heidi’s DNA Painter profile. Heidi already matches these 2nd cousins on Chromosome 11:
Here is Inguna added:
Heidi and Bill
Bill was one of the early matches. We are 4th cousins and the match goes back to James Frazer and Violet Frazer. This is Heidi’s DNA match with Bill:
Bill overlaps with and confirms other Frazer DNA matches:
Heidi and Alans
Alans is not new, but I have not added him to Heidi’s profile at DNA Painter:
Alans’ big match is on Heidi’s maternal Chromosome 3.
Wrapping Up with My Mom’s Theories
I’m ready to end the Blog, but want to check to see if there are many new Theories for my mother. Gladys’ first new theory is listed as having low confidence:
At Ancestry, I have that Elizabeth was a Rihl:
A further look at Pathways 1-4 of the Theory above has the Renner siblings born in Tenessee.
This seems unlikely as my mother’s family was from Philadelphia.
Mom and Ruta
This looks promising:
I like genealogies with photos. I also have a Gangnus Genealogy book written in German which is helpful. By the looks of the Theory, if it is right, mom and Ruta should be half third cousins. Ruta’s Tree is also helpful:
I’ll add Ruta to my tree as a floating tree and then connect the float assuming she fits. Ruta’s Tree is managed by Robert. Here is Robert at Ancestry:
He shows as descending from Philip J G Gangnus. I have him here on my Gangnus DNA Tree:
Robert shows to be related twice to my mom. That is why these DNA charts are helpful. The Theory has Ruta desecending from Gangnus and Biedermann which would be the third row from the top – the couple that is circled.
Robert has Ruta’s father moving from Riga, Latvia to Cleveland:
Heinrich’s comfirmation record includes his birth date and first names of parents:
This record looks helpful:
Here we get the mother’s name of Gagnus = Gangnus. Heinrich appears to be named for Heinrich Gagnus if I read the record correctly.
According to the Gangnus book written by Gustav Gangnus and published in 2003, Alma was one of 7 children.
Based on Robert’s tree Ruta is most likely his mother (though an Aunt is possible):
That being the case, I can just add Ruta in two places on my Gangnus DNA Tree:
The interesting thing about Ruta (and her relatives) is that they are related on my mother’s paternal grandfather (Rathfelder) and grandmother’s (Gangnus) sides.
Next, I want to connect Ruta to my tree. However, I see I already have her family in my tree:
Also, I spelled Heinrich wrong. I combined Heinrick and Heinrich.
Also when I search for Maria Magdalena, I see I have a duplicate:
These trees are a headache!
So basically, the Theory is wrong, but ny one generation on one side. That means the actual common ancestors are one above Gagnus and Biedermann as shown on the Theory.
Painting Ruta to My Mother’s DNA Profile
Ruta matches my mother here:
Here are the numbers:
The Chromosome 1 match is just under the standard thresshold of 7 cM that DNA Painter adds.
Chromosome 5
I think that this is telling me that Ruta is related on the Gangnus/Niclas side due to the overlap with Gangnus/Biederamann (in bright green):
I could change this segment in DNA Painter to reflect that, but I don’t think I will right now.
Ruta’s matches to my mom on the other chromosomes are not as clearly identified:
The other good news is that Ruta gets my mother’s DNA paternal painted DNA percent up to 50 from 49:
Robert and Long-Term Research
Many years ago, I would see Robert’s match show up at Ancestry and wonder how we were connected. I finally figured out the answer to my question. I wrote that up in a Blog in 2019 which can be seen here. Robert had his Latvian great-grandmother as Magnus rather than Gangnus. Robert corrected his tree, had his mother tested at MyHeritage and here we are. Cooperative research.
Summary and Conclusions
- I found an interesting new Frazer/Aceshon relative
- I added some DNA matches to my sister Heidi’s list
- I found an interesting Latvian match for my mom that added a lot of DNA to her DNA profile
- It appears that the well has not yet run dry on my mother’s Theories, so I will continue to look at them in a subsequent Blog.