I was surprised to find out while pursuing my genealogy hobby that I was related to my friend Gary. We both descend from William White of the Mayflower. Gary goes all the way with the Whites. My White line drops off at Penelope White who was born in 1687:
Tracing Gary Back to William White
Here is Gary’s dad Donald who passed away in 2015:
A quick search for Donald gave me this tree:
That gets me quickly back to 1873.
However, I’ll make my own tree also.
Donald W White 1930-2015
Donald was born in Acushnet, but lived with his family nearby in New Bedford in 1940:
Donald’s father was listed on the previous page of the Census:
Raymond and family were at 2135 Acushnet Ave:
This is the address of Kentucky Fried Chicken today. Raymond had only completed 3rd grade. His occupation was dairyman.
Raymond White 1906-1978
Apologies to Donald, but I have a long way to get back to William White of the Mayflower. Here is Raymond’s birth record from 1906:
Raymond’s father was Walter and was listed as a farmer.
Here is Raymond’s stone at the Long Plain Cemetery in Acushnet:
Only 300 more years to go.
Walter Augustus White 1873-1956
Augustus was a popular family name. Walter died the year I was born. Walter was also born in Acushnet, but his father who was also a farmer was born in Fairhaven and his mother born in Freetown based on this birth record:
Here is Walter in the 1880 Census with the rest of his family:
Augustus White 1832-1917
Findagrave.com has a lot of information on Augustus:
Augustus White, son of Phineas and Betsey (Walker) White of Livermore Maine was born September 26, 1832, in the house where he has since resided on the Mill Road at the head of White’s Factory Road in this town.
Mr. White comes from Mayflower stock, his ancestor William being one of the passengers of that good ship. The line down is as follows: William White, Resolved White, Samuel White, John, John, William White, William White, Phineas White and Augustus.
The only education Augustus received in his boyhood days was in the district school near his home, but he has been a diligent student all his life and has acquired useful knowledge from much reading and careful observation.
His chief occupation has been the tilling of the farm on which he was born and he now has one of the largest, most productive dairy farms in this country. Assisted by his sons, he makes milk for the New Bedford market, all of which they deliver. Mr. White has served the town 12 years as school committee and been several years surveyor of highways. He was one of the leading men in the erection of the Advent chapel in the Whelden neighborhood, 44 years ago and has been a deacon of the society and superintendent of the Sabbath school during those years. Mr. White has always been a man of industry and push and now at 75 years of age, is remarkably vigorous in body and mind.
He married June 7, 1869, Angeline M. White the daughter of Merchant and Melora A. White.
Now I’m getting somewhere with this excerpt from the History of Acushnet. Gary and I have the common ancestors of Samuel White which I would have suspected. That is where Gary’s family and my family went their separate ways:
My quick version, if I got it right, is that Gary and I are 9th cousins once removed:
Another Look at My Hartley Tree
The first time I didn’t notice Gary in my tree. Now I see that he is there:
Ancestry shows as 9th cousins:
Apparently we are more closely related than I realized through John Jenkins. Who knew?
That means that John Jenkins’ granddaughter Mercy married John White and had Thomas White who had Merchant White. Then there was another Merchant white who had Angeline White who married Augustus White. It gets confusing when White marries White. The interesting thing is the Jenkins family was from Barnstable on Cape Cod originally. Who know? Perhaps Gary and I are related other ways also.
Who Was John Jenkins 1609-1685?
John Jenkins bought land in Plymouth in 1640:
Here is some more I found out about John in the Great Migration Project:
Above are Mary Jenkins who I descend from and Thomas Jenkins who Gary descends from.
That’s quite a bit about John Jenkins.
Back to the White Tree
Here is where Mary Jenkins came in on Gary’s line:
Also Augustus White married his third cousin Angeline White.
John White Born About 1689
Here is an interesting item that surprised me about John White the son of John White. According to the Mayflower Families Book:
Son John is apparently an illegitimate child by Martha Doty (See Plymouth Co Ct Recs 1:205). This may explain why he is not named in John’s will even though he was alive and living in Rochester when the will was written.
However, there is a much more complicated lengthy discussion on Rootsweb not all of which I can easily follow:
I think the upshot of the above discussion is that the author believes that Martha Doty had a child John White out of wedlock but that the father was John White.
Some Mayflower White descendants have been tested, so it may be possible to settle the issue through YDNA testing. YDNA tests the DNA from father to son to son. There is a Mayflower YDNA Project that has three Whites in the group. They have tested markers called STRs:
I didn’t show all the results. The first two testers have tested 67 STRs and the last person tested 37 STRs. One study reported that for the 67 STR test, one STR should change, on average, every 3.5 generations. So that means that for a common ancestor such as William White of the Mayflower, some changes would be expected. So if Gary were to have his YDNA tested and the STR results were consistent with other William White descendants, it should prove that John White of 1689 was the son of John White of 1669. It would be even easier to tell if Gary did not match the haplotype of Mayflower passenger William White.
Summary and Conclusions
- I ran into a few surprises while looking at Gary’s Mayflower lineage and how he matches with my lineage
- The first was that Gary and I are more closely related on the Jenkins Line. I looked into some information about John Jenkins who was born about 1609.
- The second surprise was that there was some question about Gary’s Mayflower lineage on the White Line. That is because Gary’s ancestor Martha Dotey was brought up on charges of fornication. Martha confessed to the charge though apparently no father was named. This brings into question whether her first son John was the son of her later husband John White.
- This issue could be cleared up if Gary took a YDNA test.