{"id":9102,"date":"2019-01-08T11:58:56","date_gmt":"2019-01-08T11:58:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/?p=9102"},"modified":"2019-01-08T20:47:50","modified_gmt":"2019-01-08T20:47:50","slug":"sorting-my-moms-dna-with-autocluster","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2019\/01\/08\/sorting-my-moms-dna-with-autocluster\/","title":{"rendered":"Sorting My Mom&#8217;s DNA with AutoCluster"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I already sorted my mom&#8217;s DNA with AutoCluster last week. However, since that time, Genetic Affairs has changed the look of their AutoCluster Chart. They now cluster the clusters which makes it easier to tell which ancestral groups go with which<\/p>\n<h2>My Mom&#8217;s Ancestry<\/h2>\n<p>Mom, Gladys&#8217;, father is German but his German ancestors lived for quite a while in a German colony in Latvia. His parents were Rathfelder and Gangnus. My mom&#8217;s maternal grandfather Lentz was also German but his ancestors had been in Philadelphia since the American Revolution. Gladys&#8217; maternal grandmother was Nicholson. Her family moved to Philadelphia from Sheffield, England.<\/p>\n<h2>The First AutoCluster<\/h2>\n<p>My first AncestryDNA AutoCluster for my mom looked like this:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-06_55_02-Auto-Cluster-Shared-matches-Co-occurrence.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-9103\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-06_55_02-Auto-Cluster-Shared-matches-Co-occurrence.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"876\" height=\"811\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-06_55_02-Auto-Cluster-Shared-matches-Co-occurrence.png 876w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-06_55_02-Auto-Cluster-Shared-matches-Co-occurrence-300x278.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-06_55_02-Auto-Cluster-Shared-matches-Co-occurrence-768x711.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Thresholds: 20-600 cM<\/li>\n<li>Matches: 323<\/li>\n<li>Matches not used in clusters: 29<\/li>\n<li>Clusters: 48<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>I started writing a Blog on the results, but didn&#8217;t finish. Here is a spreadsheet for the above chart:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-07_02_50-Jon-AutoCluster-Summary-25_600.xlsx-Excel.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-9105\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-07_02_50-Jon-AutoCluster-Summary-25_600.xlsx-Excel.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"647\" height=\"745\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-07_02_50-Jon-AutoCluster-Summary-25_600.xlsx-Excel.png 647w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-07_02_50-Jon-AutoCluster-Summary-25_600.xlsx-Excel-261x300.png 261w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 647px) 100vw, 647px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>These clusters were sorted by the size of the cluster and I didn&#8217;t identify the first three clusters.<\/p>\n<h2>Mom&#8217;s New AutoCluster Results<\/h2>\n<p>I expect the new results to be more organized and show where the groups of matches belong compared to the other groups of matches:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-07_06_30-Auto-Cluster-Shared-matches-Co-occurrence.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-9106\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-07_06_30-Auto-Cluster-Shared-matches-Co-occurrence.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"792\" height=\"727\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-07_06_30-Auto-Cluster-Shared-matches-Co-occurrence.png 792w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-07_06_30-Auto-Cluster-Shared-matches-Co-occurrence-300x275.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-07_06_30-Auto-Cluster-Shared-matches-Co-occurrence-768x705.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Thresholds: 20-600 cM<\/li>\n<li>Matches: 330<\/li>\n<li>Matches not used in clusters: 28<\/li>\n<li>Clusters: 49<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>I used the same thresholds in the new AutoCluster run. The results were similar but now the clusters are organized. Here is the new spreadsheet:<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-08_17_29-Book2-Excel.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-9109\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-08_17_29-Book2-Excel.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"251\" height=\"875\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-08_17_29-Book2-Excel.png 251w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-08_17_29-Book2-Excel-86x300.png 86w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 251px) 100vw, 251px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I note that Elise and Rowena are in twice. I don&#8217;t know if that messes up the results. I didn&#8217;t show all the clusters as they go off the page.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-07_35_24-Auto-Cluster-Shared-matches-Co-occurrence.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-9108\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-07_35_24-Auto-Cluster-Shared-matches-Co-occurrence.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"294\" height=\"300\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Elise shows as being in Clusters 5 and 6 which doesn&#8217;t make sense. She doesn&#8217;t show in Cluster 5 but shows as a dark gray row to the left and above Cluster 6. Rowena shows as being in her own Cluster 15 which I don&#8217;t show above.<\/p>\n<h2>Unraveling the Mystery of Mom&#8217;s DNA<\/h2>\n<p>The unraveling the mystery of mom&#8217;s DNA involves trying to figure out which parts of her DNA go with which common ancestors. The common ancestors are the common ancestors of her common matches. Her common matches are grouped together and those groups are grouped together, so let&#8217;s get started.<\/p>\n<p>Here are mom&#8217;s four grandparent lines:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-08_29_58-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-9110\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-08_29_58-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"470\" height=\"511\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-08_29_58-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_.png 470w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-08_29_58-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_-276x300.png 276w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 470px) 100vw, 470px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>These\u00a0shown are the first and 2nd great-grandparent levels. By location, the top two grandparent are Latvia and the bottom two grandparent lines are Philadelphia and Sheffield, England.<\/p>\n<h2>Cluster 1: Nicholson\/Ellis<\/h2>\n<p>Cluster 1 is easy. It is headed up by mom&#8217;s 2nd cousin Carolyn on the Nicholson\/Ellis Line:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-08_35_38-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-9111\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-08_35_38-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"820\" height=\"458\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-08_35_38-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png 820w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-08_35_38-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel-300x168.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-08_35_38-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel-768x429.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h2>Cluster 38 &#8211; Rathfelder<\/h2>\n<p>Next, I&#8217;ll go all the way down to Cluster 38. I believe that this is a Rathfelder Cluster:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-08_44_06-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-9112\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-08_44_06-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"761\" height=\"771\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-08_44_06-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png 761w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-08_44_06-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel-296x300.png 296w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-08_44_06-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel-100x100.png 100w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 706px) 89vw, (max-width: 767px) 82vw, 740px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I may only have one Rathfelder Cluster with the two sisters, Astrid and Ingrid.<\/p>\n<h2>Mom&#8217;s Maternal and Paternal Clusters<\/h2>\n<p>The above two Clusters may have set the edge for Mom&#8217;s Clusters, but I&#8217;ll check in more detail later. Here is my assumption so far:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-08_52_28-Photos.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-9113\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-08_52_28-Photos.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"788\" height=\"730\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-08_52_28-Photos.png 788w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-08_52_28-Photos-300x278.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-08_52_28-Photos-768x711.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Again, this is a guess based on two clusters. I will need to check this out. I also will want to try to identify Lentz and Gangnus matches, if possible.<\/p>\n<h2>Finding Lentz<\/h2>\n<p>Lentz matches have been difficult to find. Here is the Lentz tree with some of the descendant who have had their DNA tested:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-09_06_07-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-9115\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-09_06_07-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"874\" height=\"739\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-09_06_07-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png 874w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-09_06_07-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel-300x254.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-09_06_07-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel-768x649.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The left branch has the closer matches, but they are also half Nicholson. Here is Radelle&#8217;s mom at Ancestry:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-09_10_41-AncestryDNA-Match-Details.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-9116\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-09_10_41-AncestryDNA-Match-Details.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"868\" height=\"427\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-09_10_41-AncestryDNA-Match-Details.png 868w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-09_10_41-AncestryDNA-Match-Details-300x148.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-09_10_41-AncestryDNA-Match-Details-768x378.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This is a little confusing because Radelle took the test and her mom, Delores shows in the tree. I became suspicious when I saw that Delores died in 2011. Radelle is in Cluster 32:<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-15_37_21-Book2-Excel.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-9132\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-15_37_21-Book2-Excel.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"476\" height=\"843\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-15_37_21-Book2-Excel.png 476w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-15_37_21-Book2-Excel-169x300.png 169w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 476px) 100vw, 476px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I now have three of my mom&#8217;s grandparents. However, does that mean that Nicholson has 31 Clusters?<\/p>\n<h2>More Nicholson<\/h2>\n<p>I can fill in one Cluster with Nigel. He has a large match with my mom going back to 1765 in Sheffield, England.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-09_28_03-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-9118\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-09_28_03-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"942\" height=\"609\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-09_28_03-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png 942w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-09_28_03-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel-300x194.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-09_28_03-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel-768x497.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I should have John Nicholson&#8217;s wife as my mom could just as easily be sharing her DNA. Here she is:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-09_32_08-Descendants-of-John-Nicholson.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-9119\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-09_32_08-Descendants-of-John-Nicholson.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"506\" height=\"62\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-09_32_08-Descendants-of-John-Nicholson.png 506w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-09_32_08-Descendants-of-John-Nicholson-300x37.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 506px) 100vw, 506px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m getting stuck on my mom&#8217;s maternal side, so time to switch to paternal:<\/p>\n<h2>Otis and Cluster 39<\/h2>\n<p>Here is Otis:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-09_58_45-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-9120\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-09_58_45-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"860\" height=\"731\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-09_58_45-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png 860w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-09_58_45-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel-300x255.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-09_58_45-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel-768x653.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here Otis is 3rd cousin once removed and 4th cousin once removed on my mother&#8217;s Rathfelder side. This Chart describes Otis&#8217; relationship to my mom as 5th cousin, once removed on the Gangnus side:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-10_01_30-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-9121\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-10_01_30-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"377\" height=\"742\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-10_01_30-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png 377w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-10_01_30-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel-152x300.png 152w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 377px) 100vw, 377px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>That means the Rathfelder side wins out (I think).<\/p>\n<h2>Otis and the Colony Effect<\/h2>\n<p>The Colony is effect is this. You put a bunch of Germans in a Colony in Latvia and they want to marry other Germans:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-10_07_31-Auto-Cluster-Shared-matches-Co-occurrence.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-9122\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-10_07_31-Auto-Cluster-Shared-matches-Co-occurrence.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"578\" height=\"576\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-10_07_31-Auto-Cluster-Shared-matches-Co-occurrence.png 578w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-10_07_31-Auto-Cluster-Shared-matches-Co-occurrence-150x150.png 150w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-10_07_31-Auto-Cluster-Shared-matches-Co-occurrence-300x300.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-10_07_31-Auto-Cluster-Shared-matches-Co-occurrence-100x100.png 100w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 578px) 100vw, 578px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here is Otis&#8217; Cluster 39 in blue highlighted. Astrid is in the cluster above and to the left of Cluster 39. Otis is the top left match of the blue cluster. He also has shared matches with mom in other clusters below and to the right.<\/p>\n<h2>Doing Some Latvian Genealogy<\/h2>\n<p>I did a search for Latvia at my mother&#8217;s AncestryDNA match page:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-10_34_04-AncestryDNA-Match-Details.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-9123\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-10_34_04-AncestryDNA-Match-Details.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"442\" height=\"380\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-10_34_04-AncestryDNA-Match-Details.png 442w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-10_34_04-AncestryDNA-Match-Details-300x258.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 442px) 100vw, 442px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Robert shows his maternal grandparents coming from Latvia. That means I could try to do some genealogy on Roberts tree if I want. Robert is also in Mom&#8217;s Cluster 45.<\/p>\n<h3>The All-Latvia Database<\/h3>\n<p>I was able to find the Resch family at:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">http:\/\/www.lvva-raduraksti.lv<\/p>\n<p>This is a good web site for Latvian research.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-11_10_28-List-of-Latvian-Inhabitants-1918\u20131940.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-9124\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-11_10_28-List-of-Latvian-Inhabitants-1918\u20131940.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"861\" height=\"289\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-11_10_28-List-of-Latvian-Inhabitants-1918\u20131940.png 861w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-11_10_28-List-of-Latvian-Inhabitants-1918\u20131940-300x101.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-11_10_28-List-of-Latvian-Inhabitants-1918\u20131940-768x258.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The Latvians like to Latvianize names. So I don&#8217;t know if Retsch is a German name changed to Recs or if Recs changed to Retsch. I also found Zamuels birthplace and birth date. The last column is place of origin. This shows as Riga for father and son. I usually look for Irsu Pag. which is Hirschenhof. That would link with my ancestors.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-11_18_43-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-9125\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-11_18_43-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"232\" height=\"256\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Robert has that Alma was born in Dresden, Germany, so I&#8217;ll look to Mazur and Rosenbach. I couldn&#8217;t find Rosenbach in the list. I did find some Martin&#8217;s in the Latvia Inhabitant list:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-11_41_22-List-of-Latvian-Inhabitants-1918\u20131940.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-9126\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-11_41_22-List-of-Latvian-Inhabitants-1918\u20131940.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"630\" height=\"73\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-11_41_22-List-of-Latvian-Inhabitants-1918\u20131940.png 630w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-11_41_22-List-of-Latvian-Inhabitants-1918\u20131940-300x35.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 630px) 100vw, 630px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The closest Martin has his dad as J\u0113kabs.<\/p>\n<h4>A Latvian Secret Weapon<\/h4>\n<p>I was ready to give up but remembered I had a book on the Gangnus family. If Robert is related to me through that family, perhaps I could make a connection there.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Gangnsu-Book.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-9127\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Gangnsu-Book.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"512\" height=\"512\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Gangnsu-Book.jpg 512w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Gangnsu-Book-150x150.jpg 150w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Gangnsu-Book-300x300.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Gangnsu-Book-100x100.jpg 100w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 512px) 100vw, 512px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I left out the bottom where it says Darmstadt 2003.<\/p>\n<p>I looked up Retsch in this book and found one reference:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Gangnus137.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-9128\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Gangnus137.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"512\" height=\"512\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Gangnus137.jpg 512w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Gangnus137-150x150.jpg 150w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Gangnus137-300x300.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Gangnus137-100x100.jpg 100w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 512px) 100vw, 512px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This reference says that Samual was born March 22, 1872 which is close to the April 3, 1872 I had above. Now all I have to do is make the connections. I have a feeling that the connections go back a way. What the above says is that Samuel married Charlotte Alma who was born 2 March 1867. Her parents were Johann Georg Gangnus and Marie Jacobine Schilling.<\/p>\n<p>I see what happened. Robert had Charlotte Alma Gangnus as Alma Magnus. That makes sense. When I first saw my mother&#8217;s grandmother&#8217;s name written, I think it was written as Youganis.<\/p>\n<h4>Gangnus Production Update<\/h4>\n<p>Now I have two Gangnus\/Gagnus families:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-13_24_21-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-9129\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-13_24_21-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"933\" height=\"407\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-13_24_21-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_.png 933w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-13_24_21-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_-300x131.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-13_24_21-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_-768x335.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The good news is that I was about to give up on the Robert tree and then I remembered my Gangnus book. The bad news is that I&#8217;m getting lost in all these Gangnus families. However, I am starting to see our trees coming together in a confusing and interesting way.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/unnamed-file.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-9130\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/unnamed-file.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"616\" height=\"744\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/unnamed-file.png 616w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/unnamed-file-248x300.png 248w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 616px) 100vw, 616px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>If I understand this correctly, Robert and I are double 5th cousins. Robert and my mother are double fourth cousins, once removed. The other thing is that Robert is related on my mother&#8217;s paternal grandfather&#8217;s and grandmother&#8217;s side.<\/p>\n<p>In order to display this on my spreadsheet, I added another row for Cluster 45:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-14_55_38-Book2-Excel.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-9131\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-14_55_38-Book2-Excel.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"607\" height=\"429\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-14_55_38-Book2-Excel.png 607w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/2019-01-08-14_55_38-Book2-Excel-300x212.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 607px) 100vw, 607px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h2>Summary and Conclusions<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>The new autoclustering look helped show where the clusters grouped with each other. I wasn&#8217;t able to identify many more clusters specifically, but now I know in what area they should belong.<\/li>\n<li>I was able to make a guess where my mother&#8217;s shared matches went from maternal to paternal<\/li>\n<li>I looked at some paternal clusters. However, intermarriage in Hirschenhof, Latvia made it difficult to nail down DNA to a specific grandfather in at least one case.<\/li>\n<li>I was able to build out Robert&#8217;s tree. Robert was in my mother&#8217;s Latvian Cluster 45. I used the All Latvia on-line Directory and a book I had on the Gangnus family in Latvia. However, after all that work, Robert appears to be equally related to my mom on both my mom&#8217;s paternal grandfather and grandmother&#8217;s sides.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I already sorted my mom&#8217;s DNA with AutoCluster last week. However, since that time, Genetic Affairs has changed the look of their AutoCluster Chart. They now cluster the clusters which makes it easier to tell which ancestral groups go with which My Mom&#8217;s Ancestry Mom, Gladys&#8217;, father is German but his German ancestors lived for &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2019\/01\/08\/sorting-my-moms-dna-with-autocluster\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Sorting My Mom&#8217;s DNA with AutoCluster&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[49,1,17,16],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-9102","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-autocluster","category-heading","category-lentznicholson","category-rathfelder"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9102","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=9102"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9102\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":9133,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9102\/revisions\/9133"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=9102"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=9102"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=9102"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}