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<\/a><\/p>\nThis is just one of the branches of the Dicks DNA project. Barry who is Anne’s nephew also pointed out to me that Anne is Esther’s second cousin. I checked on Esther’s list of matches and sure enough, Anne is Esther’s closest relative other than to her two half neices, Joan and Elaine and my wife (Joan’s daughter).<\/p>\n
To the right, I have added in Karen and her ancestors. I haven’t proved that her ancestor was Esther’s Aunt, but it seems likely based on looking at her DNA matches.<\/p>\n
Hayley was wise to get a DNA test for her grandmother. Anne gave half of her DNA to Chris who gave half of his DNA to Hayley. That should mean that Anne would have four times the Dicks DNA that Hayley does.<\/p>\n
Let’s Get To the DNA<\/h2>\n
Here are the details: The bottom line is the MRCA. Note that Anne and Esther are three generations from their common ancestors: Christopher Dicks and his wife Elizabeth. Esther and Anne may have some other common ancestors.<\/p>\n There is a utility at Gedmatch called “Are Your Parents Related?” When I run Anne’s kit through that I get this:<\/p>\n This is what genetic genealogist David Pike (also from Newfoundland) calls Runs of Homozygosity. Anyway, Anne gets an MRCA of 3.4. That means that she is something like a 2nd cousin once removed to herself.<\/p>\n When I run the report for Esther, she gets an MRCA of 4.0, meaning her common ancestors are about 4 generations back. The way David PIke explains it, the Runs of Homozygosity (ROHs) is where the DNA lines up in your DNA due to those common ancestors.\u00a0 Anne’s ROHs are on Chromosomes 1, 2, 4, 7, 13 and 20. Esther’s are on Chromosomes 2, 11. 15, and 20<\/p>\n Here is Anne on Chromosome 2 vs. Esther<\/p>\n This makes it look like Anne’s common ancestors and Esther’s common ancestors are also common to Anne and Esther. Or put another way, this could be a quadrouple match between Anne and Esther. However, look at the match above.<\/p>\n It looks like there is no match specifically where Anne and Esther have ROHs. I’m not sure what that means. Probably an area for future research. Maybe Anne and Esther are messing with the Gedmatch matching algorythms. Or it could just mean that Anne’s common ancestors and Esther’s common ancestors are different people.<\/p>\n Here is Anne on Chromosome 20 vs. Esther<\/p>\n Here Anne and Esther’s ROHs don’t overlap. These two sets of DNA could be from the same couple and they could have sent different segments down to Esther and Anne, but we can’t be sure of it just from this comparison.<\/p>\n I’ll start by comparing Anne to Edward, Randy, Barry, Joan, Elaine, Esther and Karen. I’ll skip Hayley as Anne will have the same Newfoundland DNA as Hayley, but a whole lot more.<\/p>\n First I’ll sort people by the sublines that they seem to be in:<\/p>\n This is to see if it looks like these people are in the right groups. One thing I notice is that Edward and Esther have a pretty high match that doesn’t seem to be explained by a 2nd cousin once removed relationship. The match numbers go down when Edward gets to Joan, Elaine, and Karen. Perhaps Edward is related to Esther on her maternal side as well as the paternal. Esther matches Joan, Esther and Karen on her paternal side.<\/p>\n Here are some autosomal statistics to go with the Autosomal Matrix:<\/p>\n Esther is a half Aunt to Joan and Elaine. They are higher than average but within range. Edward at 2nd cousin once removed to Esther should have a match between 0-316, but he matches at 392.8.<\/p>\n Before I jump into the DNA, I would like to look more into Anne’s family tree, to see what I may be getting into. In other words, what if I think Esther is matching Anne on her paternal side, but she is actually matching Esther on her maternal Hann side? That would get me all messed up.<\/p>\n Here is what I see at Ancestry:<\/p>\n That is actually not a lot to go on. Anne is missing the surname for a maternal grandmother. That is about 25% of Anne’s DNA. Also, as discussed above, Anne has the same person or couple in her ancestry on her paternal side and maternal side. This would be back about three and a half generations. That would mean back four generations on one line and three generations on the other.<\/p>\n Here ‘s a photo of Anne’s dad William Dicks:<\/p>\n William was living in Little Harbour in 1935:<\/p>\n William was living in an $800 8 room house with wife Edith and children Patricia and Bertram. Compare that to Peter Upshall sho had 8 people living in a 4 room $60 house.<\/p>\n This appears to be the same William in 1921 at Little Harbour East:<\/p>\n This census gives more detail about William’s place and date of birth. William’s occupation was “coasting” on a local schooner. This raises a few questions: Who was watching the girls while Willliam was coasting and Who was William’s first wife?<\/p>\n This is my guess for William’s first wife:<\/p>\n Notice that William was living at Little Harbour East at the time of his marriage. He got married at Harbour Buffett. If he was born February 1890, he wouldn’t quite be 22 at the time of his marriage. Also if the timing is right, his first daughter Ethel M came one year later in December of 1912.<\/p>\n Here is the connection between Harbour Buffett and Little Harbour:<\/p>\n <\/p>\n Anne’s tree shows that William’s father was John. I found a death record for a John Dicks in 1913:<\/p>\n The heading on the next to the last column seems to be mis-labled. It has ‘place of death’. As the second column is already place of death I think that the last column should read place of birth. That seems consistent with other death lists I’ve seen. At any rate, this would indicate that John Dicks was born about 1844 in Harbour Buffett. That connects Anne to Esther geographically.<\/p>\n Anne’s tree has Edith dieing in 1909. I couldn’t find a death record for Edith, but found one for Elizabeth Dicks here:<\/p>\n Note that this Elizabeth also died\u00a0 and was buried in Little Harbour East, but was born in Harbour Buffett about 1846.<\/p>\n Anne’s tree shows that Edith was born 1909. The logical place to look for Edith is in the 1921 Census. Here she is on the same page as William Dicks when he was widowed with two young girls:<\/p>\n This is the Census I liked because it gave birth month, year and place. I’m sure all of William’s descendants have gone through this before, but it’s new to me. This tells me that Chirs Dicks was born in Little Harbour East. Edith Dicks was born in Harbour Buffett. Richard Hann was born in PInch cove in 1899 and what appears to be his sister was born in 1909 in Little Harbour East. 12 year old Edith likely had no clue that she was to marry the then 31 year old widowed William Dicks. Perhaps it was young Edith that took care of William’s girls.<\/p>\n Could this be our Anne? She is listed on page XIV of the Little Harbour East 1945 Census. Anne’s tree says that her dad died the year that she was born:<\/p>\n The other question would be how 41 year old Thomas C Dicks would be Anne’s first cousin. That would mean that Thomas’s father would have to be John Dicks’ brother?<\/p>\n This looks to be Edith Hann’s older brother on Page XI of the Census:<\/p>\n He is living next to his adopted mother, Edith Dicks.<\/p>\n I didn’t see Edith Hann Dicks in the 1945 Census. Perhaps she remarried.<\/p>\n I started out wondering about Edith’s parents. Anne’s tree has John Henry Hann and Anastasia as her parents. We know that Edith was born at Little Harbour East. Her older brother was born at Pinch Cove. Pinch cove is 6 km North of Fair Haven. That should be directly South of Little Harbour. From a short look on the internet, Pinch Cove was abandoned after 1921.<\/p>\n As Richard Hann was born Sep 1899, I will look for a marriage between John Henry Hamm and Anastasia before that time. Here is a John Hann, widower who married in 1894<\/p>\n These two were listed as ‘RC’, Roman Catholic. I also noted that the name Anastasia came up frequently in the Roman Catholic Parish Registers.<\/p>\n Here is Mussell Harbour:<\/p>\n This looks promising geographically. The downside is this Jane would have been 45 in 1909 at the birth of Edith.<\/p>\n Here is perhaps a more promising entry. First I give the parents:<\/p>\n This Robert kept coming up as I was searching marriage records. Note that both Robert and John Henry are living in Pinch Gut. The date to the left is the birth of the child.<\/p>\n Here are their children with their Roman Catholic Baptism dates:<\/p>\n <\/p>\n My guess is that Robert and John Henry were brothers. Note that their two children were baptized on the same day in 1894. The date on\u00a0 the right is for registration. So I have linked John Henry to Pinch Cove via the birth of his son Richard in 1899. Here John Henry is in Pinch Gut with his wife Clara who gave birth to Margaret Jane five years later.<\/p>\n In 1896, Robert and John Henry had another synchronized birth and and baptism even:<\/p>\n This time, the baptism was listed under the Church of England. Here are their children and the baptsim date:<\/p>\n <\/p>\n So far, there was a John Hann who married a Jane Whelan at Mussel Cove. I don’t know if that was the same as the John Henry Hann who married a Clara and had two children at Pinch Gut. Then John Henry Hann had two children – Richard and Edith at Pinch Cove and Little Harbour East. I have not found birth records for these two yet. I have a record of a Cara Hann dieing at Ping Gut in 1903:<\/p>\n Based on Clara’s age of 28 at death, she would have been 19 at the birth of her daughter Margaret Jane, so that sounds reasonable. A 10 year difference between Richard and Edith Hann would explain her death and John Henry’s marriage to Anastasia. So I have built a house of cards from the incomplete records that I have.<\/p>\n With Anne’s DNA results, it will be important to try to filter the DNA as much as possible as there could be potentially so many matches. In a recent Blog I wrote on Martha and her family, Martha was found to have more Upshall ancestors and fewer Dicks ancestors. So that should mean that if I compare Martha’s family with Esther’s and Anne, that may show an Upshall connection (or not).<\/p>\n When I did this exercise, it appears that Anne’s matches do not line up with those places that Martha and Esther’s families line up. I take that to mean that there are no obvious Upshall shared ancestors. The one place that Annes’ matches lined up with Martha’s family, they did not line up with Elaine and Joan. Elaine and Joan match Esther on her paternal side, so that match could be on Esther’s maternal non-Upshall (Shave) side:<\/p>\n Here, Joan is #1, MLB (Martha’s Aunt) is #2. DTE (Martha’s brother) is #3 and Anne is #4. Esther is the person that these people are matching.<\/p>\n <\/p>\n When I look at shared matches between Elaine, Joan and Esther, those DNA matches eliminate Esther’s maternal side because Elaine and Joan are only related to Esther on the Upshall side. I had trouble figuring out more about Anne’s family history, but by DNA, it seems that she didn’t have an obvious Upshall influence in her DNA. That means that if I compare Esther, Joan, Elaine, and Anne, I should get mostly Dicks DNA. Now according to Martha, Henry Upshall’s father was Peter Upshall b. about 1800 and she has him married to a Margaret Burton. So there is the potential to have some Burton come through there assuming Martha is right. However, Anne could likely match Esther also on her maternal Dicks Line, so this method would elimiate that line of Dicks.<\/p>\n <\/p>\n As I mention above, Anne and Joan’s DNA should be specifically on the Dicks Line (and their ancestors). Here is how Joan and Anne match:<\/p>\n <\/p>\n Next, I’ll compare Anne to those who are in the main area of the Dicks DNA Project. Here is how the big Dicks Matrix looks:<\/p>\n
\n<\/a><\/p>\nAre Your Parents Related?<\/h3>\n
<\/a><\/p>\nDo Esther’s and Anne’s ROHs Match?<\/h3>\n
<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nBack To the Dicks Project<\/h2>\n
The Autosomal Matrix<\/h3>\n
<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nMore On Anne’s Family Tree<\/h3>\n
<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nWilliam Dicks in 1921<\/h3>\n
<\/a><\/p>\nWilliam Dicks’ First Wife<\/h4>\n
<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nWilliam Dicks’ Father and Mother<\/h3>\n
John Dicks Born About 1844, Harbour Buffett<\/h4>\n
<\/a><\/p>\nEdith Reid<\/h4>\n
<\/a><\/p>\nAnne’s Mother’s Side: Edith Hann<\/h3>\n
<\/a><\/p>\nLittle Harbour East in 1945<\/h3>\n
<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nEdith Hann’s Parents<\/h4>\n
<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nDid Clara Hann Die Young?<\/h4>\n
<\/a><\/p>\nBack To the DNA<\/h2>\n
Eliminating an Upshall Connection<\/h3>\n
<\/a><\/p>\nNarrowing Down Anne’s Matches To the Dicks Line<\/h3>\n
<\/a><\/p>\nComparing Ann’s DNA to Joan’s<\/h4>\n
<\/a><\/p>\nComparing Anne to the Dicks DNA Project<\/h2>\n