{"id":424,"date":"2016-01-08T02:48:49","date_gmt":"2016-01-08T02:48:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/?p=424"},"modified":"2016-08-08T18:23:54","modified_gmt":"2016-08-08T18:23:54","slug":"more-james-line-segments","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2016\/01\/08\/more-james-line-segments\/","title":{"rendered":"More James Line Segments"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In the last 2 blogs, I wrote about segments and crossovers. In this one I am continuing on with James Line Segments. The James Line is from James Frazer b. in the early 1700&#8217;s\u00a0 from North Roscommon, Ireland. I am looking at Chromosome 14, because there seems to be a lot going on there. Here are some of the Frazer matches from my master list of matches from testers in the Frazer DNA Project:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Chr-14-James-Line.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-425\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-425\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Chr-14-James-Line.jpg\" alt=\"Chr 14 James Line\" width=\"447\" height=\"265\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Chr-14-James-Line.jpg 447w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Chr-14-James-Line-300x178.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 447px) 100vw, 447px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Not all of these matches will come into play, because we are looking at the family of Jonathan, Janet and Joanna. Here Jonathan matches JFS on the Michael Frazer Line b. 1764 (a branch of the James Line). Janet matches the same person at 2 different places. Janet and Jonathan match BZ their 2nd cousin at differing levels. Also Jonathan matches BR from the Archibald line (brother of James Frazer) at a smaller amount. This may or may not hold up.<\/p>\n<p>Remember, we can do this analysis because siblings have what are called Fully Identical Regions (FIRs). This means that they match their same paternal and maternal grandparents (but we don&#8217;t know which initially). Then by comparing the Half Identical Regions (HIRs) and places they don&#8217;t match, it is possible to map out all 4 grandparents. With matches to known people, it is possible to fill in which grandparent is which.<\/p>\n<p>Chromosome 14 appears to be more simpler than my earlier examples:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Chr-14-James-Line-Gedmatch.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-426\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-426\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Chr-14-James-Line-Gedmatch.jpg\" alt=\"Chr 14 James Line Gedmatch\" width=\"636\" height=\"361\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Chr-14-James-Line-Gedmatch.jpg 636w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Chr-14-James-Line-Gedmatch-300x170.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 636px) 100vw, 636px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here, there are only 5 crossover points. The crossover is where the DNA recombines. Janet has only one crossover point and Jonathan and Joanna each have 2. Note above that Jonathan (1) and Joanna (3) have a FIR in the first segment indicated by the green bar in the middle row. That means they have the same Paternal and Maternal grandparents. I&#8217;ll give those grandparents a green and blue color for both Jonathan&#8217;s (1) and Joanna&#8217;s (3) DNA segment below. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Chr-14-1.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-427\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-427\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Chr-14-1.jpg\" alt=\"Chr 14 1\" width=\"659\" height=\"311\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Chr-14-1.jpg 659w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Chr-14-1-300x142.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 659px) 100vw, 659px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The crossover point is where something is going to change due to DNA that got recombined from Joanna&#8217;s family&#8217;s grandparents via their parents. I suppose you might say we are recreating how this family was formed by the different combinations of their grandparents&#8217; DNA. I can&#8217;t extend Jonathan&#8217;s grandparents at this point (at crossover 1). I can extend Joanna&#8217;s as her crossover point doesn&#8217;t occur until line 3 (which is her crossover or recombination point).<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Chr-14-2.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-428\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-428\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Chr-14-2.jpg\" alt=\"Chr 14 2\" width=\"672\" height=\"292\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Chr-14-2.jpg 672w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Chr-14-2-300x130.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 672px) 100vw, 672px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Now note in the gedmatch browser comparison above that Janet and Joanna have no match in the first 2 segments. That means that Janet will have the opposite grandparents in those segments shown as being orange and purple.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Chr-14-3.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-429\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-429\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Chr-14-3.jpg\" alt=\"Chr 14 3\" width=\"635\" height=\"284\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Chr-14-3.jpg 635w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Chr-14-3-300x134.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 635px) 100vw, 635px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Next, I see that in the 3rd segment, Joanna matches Janet perfectly (FIR). We will note that and extend Janet&#8217;s segments to the right hand side as she only has one crossover point.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Chr-14-4.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-430\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-430\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Chr-14-4.jpg\" alt=\"Chr 14 4\" width=\"631\" height=\"274\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Chr-14-4.jpg 631w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Chr-14-4-300x130.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 631px) 100vw, 631px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Next I filled in some opposite regions between Janet and Joanna and Jonathan to Janet.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Chr-14-5.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-431\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-431\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Chr-14-5.jpg\" alt=\"Chr 14 5\" width=\"642\" height=\"282\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Chr-14-5.jpg 642w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Chr-14-5-300x132.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 642px) 100vw, 642px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>However, note that in the comparison between Jonathan and Janet, there is something odd.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Jonathan-to-Janet-2.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-432\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-432\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Jonathan-to-Janet-2.jpg\" alt=\"Jonathan to Janet 2\" width=\"633\" height=\"133\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Jonathan-to-Janet-2.jpg 633w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Jonathan-to-Janet-2-300x63.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 633px) 100vw, 633px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>In the third segment, there is no match as shown by a grey underneath (no blue). However, on the top there are no red marks. I though that it was too easy. Next, I will add an HIR from Jonathan to Janet in the last 2 segments.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Chr-14-6.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-433\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-433\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Chr-14-6.jpg\" alt=\"Chr 14 6\" width=\"641\" height=\"297\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Chr-14-6.jpg 641w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Chr-14-6-300x139.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 641px) 100vw, 641px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Next Jonathan and Joanna have a no match on the last chromosome, so they are opposites. There seems to be no easy solution for the middle part of Jonathan&#8217;s Chromosome 14 &#8211; or rather there could be more than one solution, so I&#8217;ll just pick one for now and see how it fits with the matches.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Chr-14-v1.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-434\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-434\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Chr-14-v1.jpg\" alt=\"Chr 14 v1\" width=\"641\" height=\"292\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Chr-14-v1.jpg 641w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Chr-14-v1-300x137.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 641px) 100vw, 641px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>And there you have my version 1 of Jonathan and his sisters&#8217; Chromosome 14. It doesn&#8217;t look that great. Janet&#8217;s chromosome looks too symmetrical. Also Jonathan has one of his crossovers on Joanna&#8217;s crossover point (3).<\/p>\n<p>Now for the Frazer DNA Project matches to Jonathan and family.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Frazer-matches-Chr-14.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-435\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-435\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Frazer-matches-Chr-14.jpg\" alt=\"Frazer matches Chr 14\" width=\"454\" height=\"158\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Frazer-matches-Chr-14.jpg 454w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Frazer-matches-Chr-14-300x104.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 454px) 100vw, 454px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s where the puzzle begins. We don&#8217;t know which of the 4 colors that the Frazer could be. That could be either<\/p>\n<p>Janet has matches from 32-50; 59-100; and 92-101. This means I drew Janet wrong. I have her with a break in the middle of these. That is, unless, the match with JFS is a false match.<\/p>\n<p>Jonathan has matches from 80-99; 92-101; and 99-102. That could either be green or purple, but his first match at 80 would make it look like the green. I&#8217;ll give it another try with Janet having her green be the Frazer for the whole length. This is what I came up with:<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_436\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-436\" style=\"width: 647px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Frazer-matches-Chr-14-V2.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-436\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-436\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Frazer-matches-Chr-14-V2.jpg\" alt=\"Joanna and Family Version 2 Chromosome 14\" width=\"647\" height=\"292\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Frazer-matches-Chr-14-V2.jpg 647w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Frazer-matches-Chr-14-V2-300x135.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 647px) 100vw, 647px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-436\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Joanna and Family Version 2 Chromosome 14<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>That looks better. Now Janet&#8217;s segments are not so symmetrical and Jonathan&#8217;s crossovers are at his own crossover points. Joanna has a crossover on Janet&#8217;s crossover point, so maybe she should have solid orange, but that would cause other inconsistencies.<\/p>\n<p>Now I&#8217;ll add the Frazer to the green areas and Seymour grandparents in orange showing where some of our Frazer DNA testers match.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/With-Names.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-437\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-437\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/With-Names.jpg\" alt=\"With Names\" width=\"640\" height=\"293\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/With-Names.jpg 640w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/With-Names-300x137.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I know that Joanna is looking for other relatives to test on her mother&#8217;s side. So once those DNA results are in, that will further confirm which maternal grandparents the blue and purple segments belong to.<\/p>\n<p>This was not as easy as I thought it would be.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In the last 2 blogs, I wrote about segments and crossovers. In this one I am continuing on with James Line Segments. The James Line is from James Frazer b. in the early 1700&#8217;s\u00a0 from North Roscommon, Ireland. I am looking at Chromosome 14, because there seems to be a lot going on there. Here &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2016\/01\/08\/more-james-line-segments\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;More James Line Segments&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[11,6],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-424","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-chromosome-mapping","category-frazer-dna"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/424","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=424"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/424\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":441,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/424\/revisions\/441"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=424"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=424"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=424"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}