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My last Blog on Emmet ThruLines was about 3 years ago. This is my present Emmet DNA Tree:<\/p>\n

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I will look at my father’s cousin Joyce. I had taken her DNA for Ancestry at a family reunion several years back. Here is a look at a more recent level of ThruLines:<\/p>\n

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I like looking at the more recent matches as they are easier to identify. Also, it is best to work your relatives back from the more recent to the older matches. The down side is that Simon’s mother and maternal grandfather are marked as private.<\/p>\n

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However, I may assume that Simon’s maternal grandfather is a Barnes.<\/p>\n

Simon’s Shared Match<\/h3>\n

When I check Simon’s shared matches with Joyce Simon’s top match is Scott who has this ThruLine with Joyce:<\/p>\n

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This makes me think I am on the right track with Simon.<\/p>\n

Building Back Simon’s Line<\/h2>\n

I assume that Ancestry has access to who Brian’s mother and maternal grandfather are, so I will have to assume that they have the right great-grandfather. ThruLines has this information:<\/p>\n

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Here is Oldham:<\/p>\n

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Unfortumately, James’ father dies when he is quite young. However, it is his mother that I am interested in – Esther:<\/p>\n

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She is born in Bacup where my Emmet ancestors lived:<\/p>\n

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The name Esther is also interesting to me. My 2nd great-grandmother Ann Emmet from Bacup had a sister Esther and a daughter Esther who died young..<\/p>\n

Esther marries in 1886:<\/p>\n

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Here is the Thompson family in 1876:\"\"<\/a><\/p>\n

Here is an Esther born in Bacup in 1867:<\/p>\n

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However, the names and dates are not quite right.<\/p>\n

At this point, I am a bit stuck, so I will cheat a bit and work down from Elizabeth Emmet in my tree:<\/p>\n

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This was my first hint which looks good. I assume that Tunstead is in this area:<\/p>\n

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Here is an 1843 map which appears to have Tunstead:<\/p>\n

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Here is the Lee Mill in 1891:<\/p>\n

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I suppose the couple lived in the houses near the MIll.<\/p>\n

Here is Elizabeth in 1851:<\/p>\n

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Elizabeth’s sister was the head of the family unit. I believe that this confirms the ThruLine above:<\/p>\n

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Joyce’s ThruLines Through Edmund Emmet 1759<\/h2>\n

Next I go a generation back and I want to focus on Scott as Simon also matched Scott:<\/p>\n

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It also looks like I followed the George Emmet Line down for some reason. The Emmet name is a bit confusing as it is sometimes spelled Emmett. This looks to be the paternal side of Scotts Ancestry Tree:<\/p>\n

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This is what Joyce’s ThruLines with Scott has for Scott’s grandfather:<\/p>\n

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It has the grandfather born in Bacup but married in Scotland. Something doesn’t seem quite right if John Emmett married when he was 14. That does not sound normal. The Davie part agrees with what Scott has.<\/p>\n

This may be a case where I need to create the tree down from George Emmet?<\/p>\n

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Here is John, son of George, but this is his second marriage.<\/p>\n

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My guess is that that this could be John and his father George living with George’s brother David?<\/p>\n

This appears to be the same two in 1841:<\/p>\n

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The head of the household:<\/p>\n

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A guess could be that Sally is George’s sister.<\/p>\n

Does John get baptized later in life?<\/p>\n

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I was thinking that this line would be easy, but not so. It appears that George’s wife died before 1841. Here is my best guess for John’s marriage:<\/p>\n

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It seems odd that John’s father’s name is missing. Here is John’s birth record from the Baptist Church in Bacup:<\/p>\n

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Here is the family in 1881:<\/p>\n

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John remarried in 1876, so these children are from his first wife. This is filling in the details for the family from the top down meaning from the past to the present. The better way is to work from the present to the past, but it is not always so easy.<\/p>\n

Getting from John Emmet in 1874 to the John Emmet in the 1900’s<\/h4>\n

I am thinking that the next John Emmet was actually born before 1930. Here is the family in 1901:<\/p>\n

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The 1939 Register is a bit difficult to interpret:<\/p>\n

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OK, John is born in 1874 and his wife in 1899. They must have married before 1925 when Alice was born. This rules out a 1930 marriage.<\/p>\n

John was living with his sister in 1921:<\/p>\n

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This must be John’s wife:<\/p>\n

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I feel like that is enfough information to add Scott to my Emmet DNA Tree. However, before I do that, I have to merge the John from my Ancestry Tree to the John from my floating tree.<\/p>\n

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I like the look of the tree now as I have two children from Edmund Emmet and two from Isaac Emmet. Also I added in Scott who descends from Edmund and Simon who desends from Isaac Emmet and Scott and Simon match each other by DNA.<\/p>\n

Bonus Round with Maury<\/h2>\n

Maury is another of my father’s cousins. He also matches Simon:<\/p>\n

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Here are Maury’s ThruLines from Edmund Emmet:<\/p>\n

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For some reason, Maury favors the James Emmet Line. Unfortunately, I do not have James in my tree:<\/p>\n

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Edmund has a brother James. Here is a candidate:<\/p>\n

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Other ThruLines with James?<\/h3>\n

Yes I have them:<\/p>\n

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The Jem who was a good match with Maury is on my list also.<\/p>\n

My brother Jon has Lee:<\/p>\n

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My other sibling have variations of the same.<\/p>\n

Checking Out Jem’s Line<\/h3>\n

Jem’s Ancestry Tree has her Emmet Line going back to Skpton, Yorkshire:<\/p>\n

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I think it may not be worth pursuing this line right now, assuming Jem’s tree is accurate. Jem has this ancestor:<\/p>\n

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I am thinking the connection may be here. It is possible that one of our Hartley ancestors married a Stansfield.<\/p>\n

My Match with Chris<\/h3>\n

Chris has this ThruLine with me:<\/p>\n

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John Nuttal in Chris’ tree seems to be in a better part of Lancashire to match my Emmets:<\/p>\n

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The place has come up in my research in the past:<\/p>\n

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I will put Chris in my tree as a floating line. Chris’ mother in 1921:<\/p>\n

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From here, I am supposed to go back to John William Nutall and then to Martha Heyworth according to the ThruLine.<\/p>\n

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This John W had an Elizabeth for a mother apparently. This John W should have been born around 1866.<\/p>\n

Here is one possibility for this family:<\/p>\n

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When the names are in Latin, I suspect that this is a Roman Catholic Baptism. According to the ThruLine, John William’s mother should be Martha Heyworth. A search for John William Nuttal son of Martha gave me this:<\/p>\n

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This Ancestry tree has this mother for John William:<\/p>\n

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At this point, I would like to stop researching. Normally, I could try to build down from James Emmet, but at this point, I am not even sure that he should be in my tree.<\/p>\n

Summary and Conclusions<\/h2>\n