{"id":30063,"date":"2026-10-21T21:39:51","date_gmt":"2026-10-21T21:39:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/?p=30063"},"modified":"2026-10-21T21:39:51","modified_gmt":"2026-10-21T21:39:51","slug":"a-sligo-fraser-family-related-to-our-frazers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2026\/10\/21\/a-sligo-fraser-family-related-to-our-frazers\/","title":{"rendered":"A Sligo Fraser Family &#8211; Related to Our Frazers?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I recently had a request from Frazer researcher Joanna. She has been in touch with a person who thinks his branch of Frasers from Sligo may related to ours. Joanna wants me to look at the DNA matches to see if this may be true.<\/p>\n<h2>A YDNA Match<\/h2>\n<p>This person has taken a YDNA test and according to Joanna he tested as R-R152. Joanna could not find this group and thinks he may have meant R-U152 which sounds like a Haplogroup I have heard of.<\/p>\n<p>Here is the overview for the Fraser YDNA Project:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2026\/10\/21\/a-sligo-fraser-family-related-to-our-frazers\/2026-10-21-14_41_08-frazers-and-frasers-message-html\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-30065\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-30065\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/2026-10-21-14_41_08-Frazers-and-Frasers-Message-HTML.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"586\" height=\"217\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/2026-10-21-14_41_08-Frazers-and-Frasers-Message-HTML.png 586w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/2026-10-21-14_41_08-Frazers-and-Frasers-Message-HTML-300x111.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 586px) 100vw, 586px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I do not know if Ian is on this web page, but I see 6 mentions of R-U152 on that page:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2026\/10\/21\/a-sligo-fraser-family-related-to-our-frazers\/2026-10-21-14_46_14-frazers-and-frasers-message-html\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-30066\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-30066\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/2026-10-21-14_46_14-Frazers-and-Frasers-Message-HTML.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1186\" height=\"598\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/2026-10-21-14_46_14-Frazers-and-Frasers-Message-HTML.png 1186w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/2026-10-21-14_46_14-Frazers-and-Frasers-Message-HTML-300x151.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/2026-10-21-14_46_14-Frazers-and-Frasers-Message-HTML-1024x516.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/2026-10-21-14_46_14-Frazers-and-Frasers-Message-HTML-768x387.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I went through all 6 mentions of R-U152, but none of them had the Fraser\/Frazer surname. That could mean that the Haplogroup is wrong or that Ian is not part of the Fraser and Septs Project.<\/p>\n<p>Here are my Frazers:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2026\/10\/21\/a-sligo-fraser-family-related-to-our-frazers\/2026-10-21-14_53_02-frazers-and-frasers-message-html\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-30067\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-30067\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/2026-10-21-14_53_02-Frazers-and-Frasers-Message-HTML.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1018\" height=\"273\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/2026-10-21-14_53_02-Frazers-and-Frasers-Message-HTML.png 1018w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/2026-10-21-14_53_02-Frazers-and-Frasers-Message-HTML-300x80.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/2026-10-21-14_53_02-Frazers-and-Frasers-Message-HTML-768x206.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This is a fairly small group under R1a1. I count 10 Frazers in this group. However, a good percentage have taken the BigY test. The header for the group says there are 2393 members, but I only see 1634 Lines of data and many do not have the Frazer surname. For example:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Fraser is mentioned 261 times<\/li>\n<li>Frazier is mentioned 114 times<\/li>\n<li>Frazer is mentioned 43 times<\/li>\n<li>Frasier is mentioned 14 times<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Keep in mind that these numbers may be a little high if you have a Frazer name and a Frazer ancestor listed, that would make for two mentions of the name. However, that could be somewhat offset as there is a Fraser, Dingman and Barker in our project and all of them we know to be in the Frazer group.<\/p>\n<h2>R-U152<\/h2>\n<div class=\"SGF5Lb\" data-sfc-cp=\"\" data-sfc-root=\"c\">\n<div class=\"ux3nGb\" data-sfc-root=\"c\" data-sfc-inited=\"2\">\n<div role=\"heading\" aria-level=\"2\"><em><strong class=\"WJFise\">AI Overview<\/strong><\/em><\/div>\n<p><em><!--cqw1tb zBl3Rc_4\/HugV6--><\/em><\/p>\n<div class=\"GZDcqd\"><\/div>\n<p><em><!--TgQPHd|||[[&quot;AI Overview&quot;,null,0,0,0]]--><\/em><\/div>\n<p><em><!--TgQPHd|||[]--><\/em><\/div>\n<div data-subtree=\"aimc\" data-sfc-cp=\"\" data-sfc-root=\"c\">\n<div class=\"FkX2oe\" dir=\"ltr\" data-sfc-root=\"c\" data-wiz-uids=\"zBl3Rc_7\" data-ctx-provider=\"[[[&quot;b9Q7he&quot;,&quot;[{\\&quot;s\\&quot;:3,\\&quot;i\\&quot;:\\&quot;zBl3Rc_6\/LL5gb\\&quot;}]&quot;],[&quot;dMtGDc&quot;,&quot;[false]&quot;]]]\" data-ved=\"2ahUKEwiN1q2dgcyXAxXnjYkEHS5wJOwQ2O0OegYIAggJEAA\" data-hveid=\"CAIICRAA\" data-sfc-inited=\"2\">\n<div class=\"pWvJNd j2luwe\" data-sfc-root=\"c\">\n<div class=\"mZJni Dn7Fzd\" dir=\"ltr\" data-container-id=\"main-col\" data-xid=\"VpUvz\" data-sfc-root=\"c\" data-ctx-provider=\"[[[&quot;dMtGDc&quot;,&quot;[false]&quot;]]]\" data-ved=\"2ahUKEwiN1q2dgcyXAxXnjYkEHS5wJOwQ3KYQegYIAggJEAE\" data-sfc-inited=\"2\">\n<div class=\"n6owBd awi2gc\" data-sfc-cp=\"\" data-sfc-root=\"c\" data-hveid=\"CAIICRAC\">\n<div class=\"mGeWQ\" data-sfc-root=\"c\">\n<div class=\"PwvzCf WEeWWe\" data-sfc-root=\"c\" data-wiz-uids=\"zBl3Rc_r,zBl3Rc_s\" data-sfc-inited=\"2\">\n<div id=\"ic-4U0lvUpkRpXJAM\" class=\"QwWKjd\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" data-visible=\"1\" data-ved=\"2ahUKEwiN1q2dgcyXAxXnjYkEHS5wJOwQn7IPegYIAggJEAM\" data-sve=\"\" data-ssid=\"svim\" data-ep-type=\"src\" data-sv-cpt=\"4\" data-im=\"[0,&quot;4U0lvUpkRpXJAM&quot;,[&quot;https:\/\/encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com\/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR0IMndbyLhjUPDuHUdFyhOCFRZFc1_yO8jAv4UQ16S6mnBsrYa&quot;,199,253],[&quot;https:\/\/wheatonwood.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/hallstatt.png&quot;,1054,1342],{&quot;35&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;2003&quot;:[null,&quot;ciTshW_FY2yTCM&quot;,&quot;https:\/\/wheatonwood.com\/2022\/01\/17\/adventures-in-ancient-ydna-r1b-u152l2-to-celtic-fgc22501\/&quot;,&quot;Adventures in Ancient YDNA: R1b&gt; 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U152&gt;L2 to Celtic FGC22501 ...\" width=\"120\" height=\"100\" data-csiid=\"mCjZao2qCOebptQPruCR4Q4_1\" data-atf=\"1\" \/><\/em><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><em>Haplogroup <strong class=\"rQesXe MPyX\" data-sfc-cp=\"\" data-sfc-root=\"c\">R-U152<\/strong> (also known as S28) is <mark class=\"b6AQX\" data-wiz-attrbind=\"class=zBl3Rc_15\/cFwyDc\" data-sfc-root=\"c\" data-ved=\"2ahUKEwiN1q2dgcyXAxXnjYkEHS5wJOwQuJAPegYIAggJEAU\">a major Y-chromosome paternal lineage<\/mark>. It formed roughly 4,500 years ago during the Bronze Age, descending from R-P312. It is strongly associated with the Alpine Celts, ancient Italo-Celtic peoples, and Roman expansion, with high concentrations today in Italy, France, Switzerland, and parts of the UK and US.\u00a0<\/em><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-sfc-cp=\"\" data-sfc-root=\"c\" data-hveid=\"CAIICRAC\"><\/div>\n<p>Further, our Frazer group is:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2026\/10\/21\/a-sligo-fraser-family-related-to-our-frazers\/2026-10-21-17_09_41-frazers-and-frasers-message-html\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-30068\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-30068\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/10\/2026-10-21-17_09_41-Frazers-and-Frasers-Message-HTML.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"237\" height=\"24\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>R-U152 is from the R1b family which is vastly different. According to AI, R1a and R1b had a common ancestor between 20,000 and 25,000 years ago.<\/p>\n<h2>Summary and Conclusions<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>While reviewing FTDNA Fraser and Septs group, I found out some interesting things. For one, not as many Frasers\/Frazers have tested for YDNA as is shown in the summary.<\/li>\n<li>The person my friend mentioned cannot match our small branch of Frazers. Our Branch is associated with Scandinavia until around the time of Christ. Ian&#8217;s branch is more associated with Celtic people.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I recently had a request from Frazer researcher Joanna. She has been in touch with a person who thinks his branch of Frasers from Sligo may related to ours. Joanna wants me to look at the DNA matches to see if this may be true. A YDNA Match This person has taken a YDNA test &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2026\/10\/21\/a-sligo-fraser-family-related-to-our-frazers\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;A Sligo Fraser Family &#8211; Related to Our Frazers?&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1,22],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-30063","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-heading","category-frazer-ydna"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/30063","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=30063"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/30063\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":30070,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/30063\/revisions\/30070"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=30063"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=30063"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=30063"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}