![\"\"](\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/HeatherEsther.jpg\")
<\/a><\/p>\nThe estimated number of generations to a common ancestor is 3.7. That could mean a few things. However, someone in the 3rd cousin range may be suggested. Here are Heather’s Crann ancestors:<\/p>\n
Harold is Heather’s dad, so Samuel Crann would be out 4 generations from Heather.<\/p>\n Here are Esther’s ancestors:<\/p>\n Frederick and Margaret were Esther’s parents. Even at three generations back from Esther, there are a few gaps. Interestingly, looking up the Upshall name on the internet appears to link it to Dorset. The early records of Harbour Buffet mention a Peter and a Thomas Upshall. As a wild stab, I notice these two transcribed Upshall births from the Hazelbury Bryan Parish records in Dorset.<\/p>\n In the original records, Peter is referred to as ‘base-born’. Here is a map of Hazelbury Bryan showing proximity to nearby ports:<\/p>\n Below is Netherbury, where Heather’s ancestor Samuel Crann lived in the early 1800’s. He was a bit to the Southwest of my stab in the dark Upshalls.<\/p>\n My mother in law is Esther’s half niece. She is related through Esther’s paternal side only – barring intermarriage issues.<\/p>\n Here is how Heather matches my mother in law Joan:<\/p>\n This tells us that for these matches, Heather and Joan are matching more on the Upshall side rather than Esther’s Shave side. A slight point of confusion is that Esther has the Dicks family on her father’s and mother’s side.<\/p>\n It appears that Heather, Esther and Joan are in a Triangulation Group on Chromosome 1. That would mean that Heather, Esther and Joan should have a shared ancestor based on the DNA.<\/p>\n Heather to Esther:<\/p>\n Heather to Joan:<\/p>\n Esther to Joan to complete the triangle:<\/p>\n For some reason, there is a break in the Esther to Joan match. However, clearly there is a triangulation group (TG). That means that at least 2 out of 6 segment matches that Heather has with Esther and Joan are on the Upshall side.<\/p>\n So far, I have shown that at least part of the DNA match could be on the Upshall line. I have also shown that some Upshalls lived not too far from some of Heather’s ancestors in Dorset. The next step is to see if there are any Dicks family related to Heather. I have headed up quite a large Newfoundland Dicks family project. If Heather is related to Newfoundland Dicks, perhaps we would have already known that. One easy way to check is to check the Shared Matches at AncestryDNA.<\/p>\n This list shows two 3rd cousins and nine 4th cousins. Even though these are shared matches between Heather and Esther, the relationship shown here is to Esther.\u00a0 The first person on the list comes up as a probable 3rd cousin to Esther. His name is Terence. When I choose him and then choose his<\/em> shared matches, I see Heather on Terence’s Shared Match list as a possible 4th cousin. The bad news about Terence’s Ancestry Tree is that there are 4 people on it. The good news is that one of those four, his mother, is listed as a Crann.<\/p>\n Now I feel like I am getting somewhere. I feel like I should be focusing on the Upshall side of Esther’s tree. This, of course, is the side least known:<\/p>\n Esther and Heather’s second shared match at AncestryDNA is Elsie. She is a possible 3rd cousin to Esther. Like Terence, Elsie is a possible 4th cousin to Heather. Like Terence she has an Ancestry Tree of 4 people. Her names are Chafe and Hann. Hann is a name that was known to be in Harbour Buffet, Newfoundland where Esther’s parents came from. Elsie also notes some ancestry from Placentia, Newfoundland. Harbour Buffet is in Placentia Bay. The Chafe name sounds familiar to me also.<\/p>\n So far, I have two interesting connections with the first two Shared Matches between Heather and Esther. Too bad my mother in law, Joan, is not also on AncestryDNA. At this point, I could try to work Terence’s and Elsie’s genealogy back up the Crann Line. However, I’ll keep looking at more Shared Matches. Now I’m down to Esther’s 4th cousins.<\/p>\n Now we are getting a bit further out. Rather than detailing each Shared Match, I have summarized my findings in a table.<\/p>\n My conclusion from all this is that there is a Crann\/Netherbury, Dorset connection between Heather and Esther.<\/p>\n From here, I could look at the matches of the matches. This could get further out results that I don’t want. So instead, I’ll look to build out Terence’s four person tree. First, I will start a tree with the one Crann that he has in the tree. I find the one Crann in the 1930 Census:<\/p>\n This is helpful as it shows Arline’s parents, their ages, where they were born (Newfoundland) and where their parents were born (also Newfoundland).<\/p>\n Hopefully, I’m connecting the right dots. Here is John Crann’s World War II Registration:<\/p>\n This was helpful as it gives his John’s date and place. Here is Trinny Cove about 7 miles across the Bay from Harbour Buffet:<\/p>\n Here is a 1921 Census of Trinny Cove from a Newfoundland Genealogy website:<\/p>\n It looks like there were three houses in Trinny Bay and two of those were Crann houses. The two eldest Cranns were born in Harbor Buffett. I now have two potential sets of parents for John Crann, with my first choice being Richard. I do note that John’s first son was named Richard, so that adds weight to my assumption. In addition, his first daughter was named Julia.<\/p>\n Here’s John and Anastacia’s marriage on 8 Oct 1911, thanks to FamilySearch:<\/p>\n Bell Island is on the NE side of Newfoundland. At about this time I got stuck finding out the parents of John from the bottom up.<\/p>\n I thought why not check to see if there is a tree for Richard Crann from the Trinny Cove Census of 1921? I went on to Ancestry and found a familiar sounding Crann. Here was a Samuel Crann. His grandfather was listed as being from Netherbury, Dorset.<\/p>\n The Henry who had all the children was shown as being born in Jean de Baie, Placentia Bay, Newfoundland and dieing at Flat Islands, Newfoundland. Now I have made at least one connection between one Crann who was from Netherbury and moved to Newfoundland. A Google search helped me find a Crann Families of Newfoundland Web Page:<\/span><\/p>\n RICHARD2<\/sup> CRANN (CRANN1<\/sup>) was born December 1856 in Harbour Buffett, NF, and died December 13, 1941 in Fair Haven, NF.\u00a0\u00a0 He married JULIA REID\u00a0\u00a0She was born September 1858 in Little Harbour, NF, and died October 20, 1940 in Fair Haven, NF. <\/span><\/span><\/em><\/p>\n Children of RICHARD CRANN and JULIA REID are: <\/span><\/em><\/p>\n JOHN BENJAMEN3<\/sup>CRANN <\/span><\/em><\/p>\n ELIZA CRANN<\/a> , b.December 1877, Harbour Buffett, NF <\/span><\/em><\/p>\n ELIZABETH CRANN , b. November 1898, Trinny Cove, NF; m. JOHN PEDDLE; b. Corner Brook NF<\/em> <\/span><\/p>\n What I’ve done:<\/p>\n What I haven’t done:<\/p>\n So I’m about halfway there. Let’s look to see if we can connect Heather’s Cranns to this John Crann from Netherbury, Dorset.<\/p>\n This appears to be the record of John’s baptism in Netherbury:<\/p>\n Here is Heather’s Tree:<\/p>\n This tree shows that the Newfoundlander John Crann and New Zealander Samuel Crann were brothers. Talk about going different ways! This seems to make Henry Crann b. 1757 the common ancestor of Esther and Heather.<\/p>\n That’s about it for the research. Now I get to wildly guess and make assumptions. Assumption one is that John Crann’s brothers did not also move to Newfoundland. I have the William above died in England, the first John died young and Samuel went to New Zealand. I’m not sure what happened to the other Robert.<\/p>\n While poking around Ancestry, I found yet another Crann Tree called Henwood. This tree seems to fill in a few blanks:<\/p>\n There are a few things I like about this tree. One thing is that it gives the spread of John Crann’s children from 1817 to 1836. Secondly, it shows a likely tie-in with one of Esther’s matches. Way up above in my Blog I mentioned that Heather, Esther and Terrence had a match with someone named Matson. Part of Matson’s tree looks like this:<\/p>\n It ended with one of Matson’s great grandmothers who was Marina Irene Crann b. 1877. It showed her husband as having died in Harbour Buffet. If I stitch the two trees together at Marina, I get a tree for Matson. While I’m at it, I’ll add Heather in. She’s in green for New Zealand.<\/p>\n Heather and Matson show up at AncestryDNA as 4th cousins with a possible range between 4th and 6th cousins. This tree shows them as 4th cousins, once removed. I’ll now add Terence’s Line and Esther’s Line.<\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nEsther and My Mother in Law<\/h4>\n
<\/a><\/p>\nA Triangulation Group?<\/h4>\n
<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nAncestryDNA Shared Matches<\/h4>\n
<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nEsther and heather’s 2nd Shared match<\/h5>\n
Fourth Cousin shared matches between Heather and esther<\/h5>\n
<\/a><\/p>\nBuilding a Crann Tree<\/h4>\n
<\/a><\/p>\nConnecting the dots<\/h5>\n
<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nRichard crann b. 1856 b. harbour buffet<\/h5>\n
<\/a><\/p>\n
\n<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n\n
\n
John Crann Born 1791<\/h4>\n
<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a>Here is a more fleshed out tree I found at Ancestry:<\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nWild Guessing Time<\/h4>\n
Another Crann Tree<\/h5>\n
<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nA Proposed Crann Tree<\/h4>\n