{"id":27650,"date":"2025-10-30T03:05:05","date_gmt":"2025-10-30T03:05:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/?p=27650"},"modified":"2025-10-30T17:12:47","modified_gmt":"2025-10-30T17:12:47","slug":"clusters-from-my-mom","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2025\/10\/30\/clusters-from-my-mom\/","title":{"rendered":"Clusters from My Mom&#8217;s Latvian Side"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Let&#8217;s look at my mom&#8217;s clusters. These should include Rathfelder, Nicholson and Lentz for starters.<\/p>\n<h2>Standard Clusters for Gladys Rathfelder<\/h2>\n<p>These had to be refreshed:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-15_46_54-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27651\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-15_46_54-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"743\" height=\"612\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-15_46_54-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 743w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-15_46_54-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x247.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 706px) 89vw, (max-width: 767px) 82vw, 740px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Orange is Lentz, but really Lentz\/NIcholson.<\/li>\n<li>The next cluster is Nicholson\/Ellis<\/li>\n<li>The third cluster is also NIcholson\/Ellis. So perhaps one cluster favors Nicholson and the other Ellis<\/li>\n<li>For some reason there are no Rathfelder or Latvian clusters<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2>A Custom Rathfelder Cluster<\/h2>\n<p>My mom has a good match here with Donna:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-15_54_42-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27652\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-15_54_42-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"885\" height=\"691\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-15_54_42-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 885w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-15_54_42-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x234.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-15_54_42-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x600.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Maria was the wife of my mother&#8217;s grandfather who was Johann Heinrich Rathfelder. I&#8217;ll choose Donna as the match of interest for the custom Rathfelder Clusters.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-15_58_53-.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27653\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-15_58_53-.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1303\" height=\"1403\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-15_58_53-.png 1303w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-15_58_53--279x300.png 279w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-15_58_53--951x1024.png 951w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-15_58_53--768x827.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Donna is the fourth match down. The first cluster is along the Gangus Line:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-16_01_25-.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27654\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-16_01_25-.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"923\" height=\"1367\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-16_01_25-.png 923w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-16_01_25--203x300.png 203w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-16_01_25--691x1024.png 691w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-16_01_25--768x1137.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here is the second cluster:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-17_07_58-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27656\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-17_07_58-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1146\" height=\"1049\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-17_07_58-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 1146w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-17_07_58-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x275.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-17_07_58-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1024x937.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-17_07_58-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x703.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here is the only hint I see from that Cluster:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-17_13_15-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27657\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-17_13_15-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"732\" height=\"1260\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-17_13_15-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 732w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-17_13_15-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-174x300.png 174w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-17_13_15-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-595x1024.png 595w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 732px) 100vw, 732px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>However, I have never checked this out. One tree at Ancestry has this:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-20_59_58-Haiti-Update-November-2025.docx-Word.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27658\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-20_59_58-Haiti-Update-November-2025.docx-Word.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"531\" height=\"565\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-20_59_58-Haiti-Update-November-2025.docx-Word.png 531w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-20_59_58-Haiti-Update-November-2025.docx-Word-282x300.png 282w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 531px) 100vw, 531px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>That means the Johann on the right above could be Johann Jacob. I suppose mine could be Cornelius Johannes. However, for now, I will leave it be.<\/p>\n<h2>Clusters with Gladys and Catherine<\/h2>\n<p>Catherine has a slightly lower DNA match to my mom compared to Donna, but a closer relationship:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_05_23-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27659\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_05_23-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"919\" height=\"518\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_05_23-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png 919w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_05_23-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel-300x169.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_05_23-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel-768x433.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Catherine is a 2nd cousin once removed and Donna is a 2nd cousin twice removed to my mom.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_08_22-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27660\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_08_22-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"710\" height=\"783\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_08_22-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png 710w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_08_22-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel-272x300.png 272w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 710px) 100vw, 710px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>It is interesting how different the two clusters look (between Gladys and Donna and Gladys and Catherine). Under this, there are two sub-clusters. Here is the first:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27661\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"960\" height=\"909\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png 960w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel-300x284.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel-768x727.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here are some more loose clusters. Here is match number 5:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_16_47-Save-As.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27662\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_16_47-Save-As.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"484\" height=\"639\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_16_47-Save-As.png 484w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_16_47-Save-As-227x300.png 227w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 484px) 100vw, 484px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Match number 4 has a similar connection and is probably a sister. This Hans Jerg Rathfelder married a Biedenbender.<\/p>\n<p>Here is how Valdis matches:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_21_55-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27663\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_21_55-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"516\" height=\"741\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_21_55-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C.png 516w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_21_55-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C-209x300.png 209w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 516px) 100vw, 516px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_21_55-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C-1.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27664\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_21_55-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C-1.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"732\" height=\"252\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_21_55-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C-1.png 732w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_21_55-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C-1-300x103.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 732px) 100vw, 732px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here is a guess as to what is happening:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_28_34-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27665\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_28_34-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"454\" height=\"407\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_28_34-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C.png 454w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_28_34-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C-300x269.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 454px) 100vw, 454px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here is some more support. Karin is related to Valdis. Here is J.S.:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_31_59-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27666\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_31_59-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"552\" height=\"905\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_31_59-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C.png 552w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_31_59-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C-183x300.png 183w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 552px) 100vw, 552px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>But how does Kirk fit in?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_35_17-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27667\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_35_17-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"544\" height=\"916\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_35_17-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C.png 544w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_35_17-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C-178x300.png 178w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 544px) 100vw, 544px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This tells me that the second cluster is actually a Gangnus Cluster:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_34_16-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27668\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_34_16-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"813\" height=\"570\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_34_16-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C.png 813w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_34_16-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C-300x210.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_34_16-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C-768x538.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Valdis, Karin and JS were Schwechheimer\/Gangnus. But Kirk show that the match was really on the Gangnus side of that couple. This cluster also distinguishes from the Gangnus line on my Rathfelder grandfather&#8217;s maternal side.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_39_10-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C-1.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27670\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_39_10-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C-1.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"467\" height=\"412\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_39_10-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C-1.png 467w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_39_10-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C-1-300x265.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 467px) 100vw, 467px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The clusters are very specific.<\/p>\n<p>Matthew appears to be a new match:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_42_36-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27671\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_42_36-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"579\" height=\"821\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_42_36-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C.png 579w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_42_36-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C-212x300.png 212w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 579px) 100vw, 579px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h3>Checking Out Matthew&#8217;s Line<\/h3>\n<p>I don&#8217;t see Matthew on my Gangnus DNA Tree:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_47_13-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27672\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_47_13-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"372\" height=\"675\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_47_13-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png 372w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-21_47_13-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel-165x300.png 165w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 372px) 100vw, 372px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I do see Maria Senta in the excellent genealogy on the Gangnus family by Gustav Gangnus. I can trace the line back to Johann Jacob Gagnus, but it gets confusing as this man had 19 children with two wives. Matthew descends from the first wife and Patrick, Kevin, Leva and my mom descend from the second wife.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-22_27_40-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27673\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-22_27_40-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1454\" height=\"271\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-22_27_40-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png 1454w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-22_27_40-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel-300x56.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-22_27_40-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel-1024x191.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-22_27_40-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel-768x143.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here I have added in Matthew to my Gangnus DNA Tree:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-22_36_07-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27674\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-22_36_07-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"533\" height=\"713\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-22_36_07-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png 533w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-22_36_07-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel-224x300.png 224w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 533px) 100vw, 533px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This makes Matthew a half third cousin twice removed to Gladys. The shared DNA is all Gangnus.<\/p>\n<h3>How Does Reinhold Fit In?<\/h3>\n<p>Here is what Ancestry shows:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-22_41_05-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27675\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-22_41_05-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"556\" height=\"919\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-22_41_05-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png 556w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-22_41_05-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel-182x300.png 182w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 556px) 100vw, 556px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>However, Reinhold shows up in my Gangnus DNA Tree:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-22_43_00-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27676\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-22_43_00-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"604\" height=\"725\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-22_43_00-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png 604w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-22_43_00-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel-250x300.png 250w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 604px) 100vw, 604px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>He is also a fourth cousin once removed. On Matthew&#8217;s side of the tree, Reinhold is a 5th cousin once removed also:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-22_45_21-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27677\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-22_45_21-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"923\" height=\"802\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-22_45_21-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png 923w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-22_45_21-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel-300x261.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-22_45_21-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel-768x667.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The left side of the tree represents the paternal Gangnus side and the right side of the tree above represents the maternal side of the Gangnus matches. Rienhold appears to be matching on the maternal Gagnus side if I understand the clusters correctly even though that is the more distant relationship.<\/p>\n<p>This is the part of the cluster that is easier to figure out due to common ancestors that have been confirmed by genealogy:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-22_51_41-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27678\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-22_51_41-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"580\" height=\"531\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-22_51_41-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C.png 580w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-22_51_41-C__Users_jm_OneDrive_Documents_Blog_2025-10-29-21_11_48-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-C-300x275.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 580px) 100vw, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h2>Summary and Conclusions<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>By using different matches of interest, I was able to get very different results. The second person of interest gave easier answers, probably just by the chance people they matched by DNA.<\/li>\n<li>I added a new match to my Gangnus DNA Tree<\/li>\n<li>I was able to identify a likely Rathfelder cluster and two different Gangnus clusters: one on my grandfather&#8217;s paternal side and one on his maternal side.<\/li>\n<li>I was able to identify in this way about one third of my mother&#8217;s Rathfelder clusters.<\/li>\n<li>I assume that the further one goes down on the clusters, the further out the matches are.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Let&#8217;s look at my mom&#8217;s clusters. These should include Rathfelder, Nicholson and Lentz for starters. Standard Clusters for Gladys Rathfelder These had to be refreshed: Orange is Lentz, but really Lentz\/NIcholson. The next cluster is Nicholson\/Ellis The third cluster is also NIcholson\/Ellis. So perhaps one cluster favors Nicholson and the other Ellis For some reason &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2025\/10\/30\/clusters-from-my-mom\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Clusters from My Mom&#8217;s Latvian Side&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[49,12],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-27650","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-autocluster","category-rathfelderlentznicholson-dna"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/27650","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=27650"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/27650\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":27682,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/27650\/revisions\/27682"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=27650"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=27650"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=27650"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}