{"id":27634,"date":"2025-10-29T19:15:56","date_gmt":"2025-10-29T19:15:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/?p=27634"},"modified":"2025-10-29T19:44:58","modified_gmt":"2025-10-29T19:44:58","slug":"more-frazer-clusters-from-gladys","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2025\/10\/29\/more-frazer-clusters-from-gladys\/","title":{"rendered":"More Frazer Clusters from Gladys"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Gladys is a Frazer relative here:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_09_37-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27635\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_09_37-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1429\" height=\"975\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_09_37-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 1429w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_09_37-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x205.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_09_37-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1024x699.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_09_37-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x524.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Gladys&#8217; great-grandfather Richard was the brother of my 2nd great-grandfather George Frazer. In my previous Blog, my thinking was that if I used Gladys for clusters, I would get better or older matches. Also these clusters would likely eliminate some of the McMaster Matches as my 2nd great-grandfather married a McMaster.<\/p>\n<p>I chose as a person of interest Mabel for Gladys&#8217; clusters:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-12_46_11-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27636\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-12_46_11-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"900\" height=\"952\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-12_46_11-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1.png 900w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-12_46_11-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1-284x300.png 284w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-12_46_11-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1-768x812.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here is Cluster 3. This discovered my family even though they were not explixitly included in the inputs to the cluster:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_15_02-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27637\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_15_02-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"755\" height=\"637\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_15_02-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 755w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_15_02-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x253.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 706px) 89vw, (max-width: 767px) 82vw, 740px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Jonathan is my brother and the rest are my siblings, my niece, my nephew, my two children and myself. This suggests that of my siblings who have tested at Ancestry, Jonathan should have the most Frazer DNA and I should have the least.<\/p>\n<h2>Cluster 4 for Gladys<\/h2>\n<p>This cluster has just one more match than the pink cluster above, but my family are now out of the cluster:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_19_56-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27638\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_19_56-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"823\" height=\"703\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_19_56-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 823w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_19_56-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x256.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_19_56-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x656.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I noticed that Zara was a new match. She is also the daughter of Susan:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_30_27-.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27639\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_30_27-.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"904\" height=\"1185\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_30_27-.png 904w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_30_27--229x300.png 229w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_30_27--781x1024.png 781w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_30_27--768x1007.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ll assume that Susan knew who her mother and grandmother were. This is Susan&#8217;s maternal line from her Ancestry Tree:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_32_05-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27640\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_32_05-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"902\" height=\"327\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_32_05-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 902w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_32_05-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x109.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_32_05-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x278.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>It turns out I already had Susan:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_34_48-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27641\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_34_48-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1168\" height=\"797\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_34_48-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 1168w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_34_48-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x205.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_34_48-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1024x699.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_34_48-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x524.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I got a little confused. This is an older Richard Frazer Line. The 1830 Richard and the 1852 Richard must have been named for the 1700&#8217;s Richard.<\/p>\n<p>I looked at the lower right cluster but could not see an easy connection to any of my identifiable ancestors.<\/p>\n<h2>Cluster 5 for Gladys<\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_49_19-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27642\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_49_19-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"978\" height=\"865\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_49_19-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 978w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_49_19-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x265.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-14_49_19-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x679.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This looks like two major clusters with perhaps some clusters within the clusters.<\/p>\n<p>I recognize Jane in the major 2nd cluster.\u00a0Jane and Siddon descend from Richard Frazer born perhaps 1777. I also descend from that line but from Violet Frazer who married James Frazer. So that should be the two major clusters above. First Violet and then Archibald born 1804 &#8211; both children of Richard.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>The last cluster had 60 matches. This expanded things far out:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-15_02_02-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-27643\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-15_02_02-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1185\" height=\"1220\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-15_02_02-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 1185w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-15_02_02-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-291x300.png 291w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-15_02_02-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-995x1024.png 995w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/2025-10-29-15_02_02-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x791.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This one gives me a bit of a headache.<\/p>\n<h2>Summary and Conclusions<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Using Gladys and Mabel to cluster gives some more detail on the different Frazer Lines<\/li>\n<li>However, because Gladys is a bit removed from me at 3rd cousin once removed, the results are more obscure than ideal.<\/li>\n<li>Ancestry suggests using someone in the 2nd cousin range. I think that makes sense.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Gladys is a Frazer relative here: Gladys&#8217; great-grandfather Richard was the brother of my 2nd great-grandfather George Frazer. In my previous Blog, my thinking was that if I used Gladys for clusters, I would get better or older matches. Also these clusters would likely eliminate some of the McMaster Matches as my 2nd great-grandfather married &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2025\/10\/29\/more-frazer-clusters-from-gladys\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;More Frazer Clusters from Gladys&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-27634","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-heading"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/27634","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=27634"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/27634\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":27649,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/27634\/revisions\/27649"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=27634"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=27634"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=27634"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}