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<\/a><\/p>\nSadly, Ann’s father Robert dies before she is born.<\/p>\n Here is the burial record for her father Robert:<\/p>\n Interestingly, at the time of Ann’s birth her father’s occupation is given as weaver even though he was already dead. Ann may have been named for Mary Pilling’s mother Nancy or possibly from Robert’s mother. However, Robert’s mother has not yet been nailed down.<\/p>\n In 1837, Mary Pilling Hartley and her son John get baptized at the Weslyan Weslyan Chapel in Trawden:<\/p>\n Greenwood and Ann were been baptized at the Colne Church, so no need for them to be re-baptized in 1837. I believe that the Weslyan Chapel is also known as Skipton Road Weslyan Methodist:<\/p>\n This photo is from Genuki:<\/p>\n A little less than 2 years later, Mary Pilling Hartley marries Robert Wilkinson, a widower.<\/p>\n This results in a large blended family as Mary had a child before marrying Robert Hartley. Here is the 1841 Census for Trawden:<\/p>\n As the Census was held on June 6, Ann would not have technically been 6 yet. This shows that Ann had a half sister Mary who was her same age. At this point, Mary Pilling Hartley Wilkinson has 5 children of her own and 5 step children. Here is Hollin Hall where the blended family lived from a book by Jack Greenwood:<\/p>\n In 1851, 10 years later, the family is living at Underbank, Bacup:<\/p>\n Ann and her older brother Greenwood were power loom weavers as was their step father Robert Wilkinson.<\/p>\n Now it is time for Ann Hartley to get married. I have that she married at Christ Church Bacup on 26 June 1858. The couple were living at Underbank, Bacup in 1861:<\/p>\n Ann has two sons:<\/p>\n Joseph is baptized at Bacup, Wesley Place Methodist Chapel:<\/p>\n I see his birth place as Scarbottom also known as Scar End Hey. This location appears to be in Weir:<\/p>\n This is just North of Underbank:<\/p>\n Underbank is below Broad Clough on the right side of the red road which runs North and South.<\/p>\n In 1873, a second son is born:<\/p>\n He carries the name of Ann’s brother who has left for Massachusetts with his family about 4 years prior to this time. Here is where the Church was:<\/p>\n Here is the family in 1881:<\/p>\n The Census appears to say they live at Newline. That must be this street:<\/p>\n Here is some specific burial information for Ann:<\/p>\n When I look up Bacup Cemetery:<\/p>\n This could be a future destination:<\/p>\n I assume that Ann would be in the Church of England Section D. However, the record above mentions Unconsecrated Ground, so perhaps she was in General D. According to the internet:<\/p>\n People paying for 1st and 2nd class areas for their burial were able to choose the specific plot they wanted.\u00a0The 3rd class had no choice where they were allocated<\/b>. There are usually fewer headstones in the third class area because people could not afford to pay for them.<\/em><\/p>\n So there may not be much to see if I were to visit there.<\/p>\n The ulterior motive is that it would be nice to find a descendant of Ann Hartley Cockrill who has tested for DNA.\u00a0 In the light of this motive, I did a search for Elijah Cockrill in Ancestry trees. I found this one which was interesting:<\/p>\n This tree was for Roland and he shows Cockerell on his maternal side. However, I do not have a record of Elijah and Ann having a daughter born. This Alice would have been born 4 years before the couple married and does not show up on the Census. Although there are 25 trees with Elijah Cockrill, some appear wrong, for people I already know about who are related in other ways (such as Pilling only) or they have Elijah on collateral lines.<\/p>\n Here is Elijah in 1891:<\/p>\n Elijah has a new wife, Mary from Stockport in Chesire. The first three in the family are listed as cotton weavers and William is a woolen weaver. They are living on Westmoreland Street in Great and Little Marsden, Nelson, Lancashire. Here is what Google shows for that location if I have it right:<\/p>\n The door on the right is 37, so I assume that #35 is to the left of that door.<\/p>\n This was not far from Colne and Trawden.<\/p>\n This marriage record must be correct:<\/p>\n This appears to say that Elijah’s father was a gentleman. I do not think that is correct. Here is Elijah’s burial record:<\/p>\n He apparently died at the location in the Google Map Photo above and was buried at the same Section and number as his former wife Ann Hartley.<\/p>\n I see also his name is spelled a bit differently in the burial record.<\/p>\n Here is a summary of his life up to his marriage:<\/p>\n Here are the couple on Gordon Road, Nelson in 1901:<\/p>\n Perhaps coincidentally, in the previous listing is a John Wilkinson from Trawden. Josesph is on 13 Gordon Road, not far from Westmoreland Street:<\/p>\n This is Gordon Road in current times:<\/p>\n I can fill this out a bit:<\/p>\n The 1921 Census reveals a problem:<\/p>\n Ada has passed away and Joseph and Alec are living with Ada’s brother. I could not find a 41 Whitchall Street in Nelson, but there is a listing for Whitehall Street:<\/p>\n It looks like both Joseph and his brother were in the wood business, but also may have been out of work. Interestingly, Joseph had worked for H Hartley.<\/p>\n Here is Joseph in 1939:<\/p>\n I think this is Henley to the West of London:<\/p>\n I have not found any evidence that Alec had any children.<\/p>\n He appears to be living with one of his wife’s relatives in 1939:<\/p>\n Ann perhaps missed her brother Greenwood who had been gone for 4 years at this time. William had a shorter life than Alec:<\/p>\n Here is where William passed away in 1929:<\/p>\n William has two children, so more chances of descendants. I wonder if there is any significance in the name William. Traditionally, the mother’s second son could reflect her father’s heritage. Elijah’s father was William, so that name was probably for Elijah’s father and Greenwood for Ann’s paternal side.\u00a0Which makes me wonder where the first born Joseph’s name came from.<\/p>\n Here is a nice photo from Ancestry:<\/p>\n Here is the 1921 Census:<\/p>\n One tree I found shows this:<\/p>\n Tom has three daughters who marry and have offspring. This appears to be a good place to look for DNA matches.<\/p>\n From what little information I have, it appears that Vesta ended up in Australia:<\/p>\n She apparently marries Harold Howarth:<\/p>\n Here father has passed away but her brother Tom is a witness.<\/p>\n In 1939, Harold is a tobaccanist dealer in Rochdale, Lancashire:<\/p>\n Harold dies in 1951:<\/p>\n It is unclear why Vesta moves to Australia. Perhaps because of her son? Here is Vesta in 1977:<\/p>\n Frank is possibly a son?<\/p>\n Here is Rockingham near Perth in Western Australia:<\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nLife After Ann for the Cockrill Family and an Ulterior Motive<\/h2>\n
<\/a><\/p>\nElijah Cockrill After Ann<\/h3>\n
<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nJoseph Cockrill Born 1870<\/h3>\n
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<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nWilliam Greenwood Cockrill Born 1873<\/h3>\n
<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nTom Widdup Cockrill Born 1905<\/h4>\n
<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nVesta Irene Cockrill Born 1909<\/h4>\n
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