{"id":26509,"date":"2025-02-04T21:42:30","date_gmt":"2025-02-04T21:42:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/?p=26509"},"modified":"2025-06-13T12:21:15","modified_gmt":"2025-06-13T12:21:15","slug":"following-my-fathers-cousins-recent-shared-matches","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2025\/02\/04\/following-my-fathers-cousins-recent-shared-matches\/","title":{"rendered":"Following My Father&#8217;s Cousin&#8217;s Recent Shared Matches"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In my previous Blog, I looked at two of Joyce&#8217;s recent shared matches. I will continue on.<\/p>\n<h2>Angela and Joyce<\/h2>\n<p>Angela comes with a bonus:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/2025-01-30-17_27_32-.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26510\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/2025-01-30-17_27_32-.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1669\" height=\"1410\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/2025-01-30-17_27_32-.png 1669w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/2025-01-30-17_27_32--300x253.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/2025-01-30-17_27_32--1024x865.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/2025-01-30-17_27_32--768x649.png 768w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/2025-01-30-17_27_32--1536x1298.png 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>It appears that Angela and Jaqueline should be fourth cousins to each other if this tree is correct. As this is the main line that I am interested in, I feel obgligated to look into the connection. This Hartley Line has been difficult to deal with.<\/p>\n<h3><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/2025-01-30-17_35_30-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26511\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/2025-01-30-17_35_30-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"971\" height=\"699\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/2025-01-30-17_35_30-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 971w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/2025-01-30-17_35_30-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x216.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/2025-01-30-17_35_30-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x553.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/h3>\n<p>Angela also has a Hartley on her maternal side which makes me skeptical. Here is Jaqueline&#8217;s Tree:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/2025-01-30-17_53_46-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26513\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/2025-01-30-17_53_46-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1658\" height=\"417\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/2025-01-30-17_53_46-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 1658w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/2025-01-30-17_53_46-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x75.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/2025-01-30-17_53_46-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1024x258.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/2025-01-30-17_53_46-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x193.png 768w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/2025-01-30-17_53_46-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1536x386.png 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here tree has a lot of John Hartleys, but I do not see James Hartley in her tree. I will take these two back to see if I can get them both to James Hartley born 1813. In the unlikely chance that happens, I will then look further back.<\/p>\n<h3>A Floating Tree for Angela<\/h3>\n<p>Angela&#8217;s grandparents lived in Barrowford in 1939 according to Angela&#8217;s tree:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-07_32_37-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26516\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-07_32_37-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1510\" height=\"271\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-07_32_37-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 1510w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-07_32_37-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x54.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-07_32_37-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1024x184.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-07_32_37-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x138.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here is the family in 1921:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-11_33_02-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26519\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-11_33_02-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"2066\" height=\"731\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-11_33_02-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 2066w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-11_33_02-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x106.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-11_33_02-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1024x362.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-11_33_02-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x272.png 768w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-11_33_02-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1536x543.png 1536w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-11_33_02-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-2048x725.png 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>We are interested in Ann who was born in HIgham:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-11_35_18-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26520\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-11_35_18-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"712\" height=\"416\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-11_35_18-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 712w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-11_35_18-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x175.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 712px) 100vw, 712px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-11_43_13-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26521\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-11_43_13-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1395\" height=\"473\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-11_43_13-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 1395w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-11_43_13-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x102.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-11_43_13-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1024x347.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-11_43_13-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x260.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here is the non-conformist wedding record at the Weslyan Chapel. Ann&#8217;s father was a farmer in 1871:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-11_48_13-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26522\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-11_48_13-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1987\" height=\"319\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-11_48_13-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 1987w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-11_48_13-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x48.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-11_48_13-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1024x164.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-11_48_13-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x123.png 768w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-11_48_13-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1536x247.png 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The marriage record shows Henry to be a widower:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-12_01_13-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26523\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-12_01_13-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"680\" height=\"303\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-12_01_13-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 680w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-12_01_13-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x134.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 680px) 100vw, 680px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>As the marriage is in 1867, all three daughters listed in the 1871 Census must be from Christiana. So far, my research agrees with Angela and Jocye&#8217;s Thrulline.<\/p>\n<p>Here is the family in 1861 in Higham:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-13_47_05-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26524\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-13_47_05-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"2209\" height=\"464\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-13_47_05-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 2209w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-13_47_05-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x63.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-13_47_05-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1024x215.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-13_47_05-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x161.png 768w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-13_47_05-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1536x323.png 1536w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-13_47_05-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-2048x430.png 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Henry&#8217;s first wife is Jane. Henry is a shoemaker and father James is a shoemaker and farmer.<\/p>\n<p>The 1851 Census has James born at Sagar Hill:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-13_57_21-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26525\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-13_57_21-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1626\" height=\"280\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-13_57_21-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 1626w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-13_57_21-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x52.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-13_57_21-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1024x176.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-13_57_21-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x132.png 768w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-13_57_21-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1536x265.png 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>My guess is that Sagar HIll is part of HIgham.<\/p>\n<p>Here is the Census for 1841 for Sagar HIll, Padiham:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-14_04_21-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26526\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-14_04_21-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1805\" height=\"1032\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-14_04_21-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 1805w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-14_04_21-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x172.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-14_04_21-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1024x585.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-14_04_21-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x439.png 768w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-14_04_21-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1536x878.png 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I am not making a lot of sense of it.\u00a0 I will Robert the same as Henry Robert in the 1851 Census? Is Dinah the wife of James or a daughter of John?\u00a0 Is Robert the son of an unmarried daughter of John? Due to the vagueness of the Census, I would be willing to stop this line of pursuit for now.<\/p>\n<p>I think that one problem is my tree:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_20_55-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26529\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_20_55-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"696\" height=\"350\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_20_55-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1.png 696w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_20_55-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1-300x151.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 696px) 100vw, 696px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Ancestry is trying to find mathes that fit my tree. However, I do not know if Robert Hartley&#8217;s parents were James Hartley and Betty Baldwin or not. I picked them because they seemed to fit. If I were to de-link James Hartley and Betty Baldwin from Robert Hartley, I may get other suggestions. I tried that and I will wait to see if I get other suggested ancestors.<\/p>\n<p>I see that Angela went away when I took away the link between known Hartley ancestor Robert Hartley and what I thought may have been his parents:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_29_02-1-1.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26530\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_29_02-1-1.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1135\" height=\"1323\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_29_02-1-1.png 1135w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_29_02-1-1-257x300.png 257w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_29_02-1-1-878x1024.png 878w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_29_02-1-1-768x895.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h2>Joyce and TJ<\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_34_06-.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26531\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_34_06-.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"832\" height=\"1379\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_34_06-.png 832w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_34_06--181x300.png 181w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_34_06--618x1024.png 618w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_34_06--768x1273.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The Cowen or Cowing Line should be easier to trace. I see that TJ&#8217;s tree goes back to a Zenas Cowen:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_37_32-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26532\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_37_32-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1380\" height=\"522\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_37_32-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 1380w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_37_32-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x113.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_37_32-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1024x387.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_37_32-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x291.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I will assume that TJ had his maternal grandmother right. TJ also has this record:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_45_53-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26533\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_45_53-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1206\" height=\"676\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_45_53-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 1206w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_45_53-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x168.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_45_53-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1024x574.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_45_53-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x430.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Social Security is helpful here:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_49_41-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26534\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_49_41-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"753\" height=\"752\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_49_41-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 753w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_49_41-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x300.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_49_41-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-150x150.png 150w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_49_41-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-100x100.png 100w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 706px) 89vw, (max-width: 767px) 82vw, 740px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This gives a specific birth date and place. However, the father&#8217;s name is given as Joseph Tyson rather than Walter Butts.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_53_30-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26535\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_53_30-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"846\" height=\"278\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_53_30-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 846w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_53_30-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x99.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-16_53_30-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x252.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>In 1940, Patricia is living with her family on Collette Street, New Bedford. Patricia&#8217;s mother is shown as married but also the head of household. I think that the suggestion is that the Walter who was the lodger was the father of Patricia. Walter is still there in 1950, so I will go with that.<\/p>\n<p>This is probably Walter in 1900:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-17_10_11-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26536\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-17_10_11-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1481\" height=\"330\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-17_10_11-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 1481w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-17_10_11-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x67.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-17_10_11-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1024x228.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-17_10_11-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x171.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here is the birth record for James D Butts:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-17_16_47-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26537\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-17_16_47-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"2083\" height=\"215\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-17_16_47-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 2083w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-17_16_47-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x31.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-17_16_47-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1024x106.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-17_16_47-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x79.png 768w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-17_16_47-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1536x159.png 1536w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-01-17_16_47-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-2048x211.png 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>His mother, Polly Cowin was born in Dartmouth.<\/p>\n<p>I see I already have Polly in my tree, so I will have to merge the two people:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-04-15_51_29-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26539\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-04-15_51_29-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"986\" height=\"855\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-04-15_51_29-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 986w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-04-15_51_29-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x260.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-04-15_51_29-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x666.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>However, I have this Polly as being the daughter of Zenas Cowen rather than Israel Cowen or Cowing. That means that this is another dead end.<\/p>\n<h3>Shared Matches with TJ and Joyce<\/h3>\n<p>One interesting thing is that Joyce and TJ have these two shared matches:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-04-16_34_14-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26540\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-04-16_34_14-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1473\" height=\"361\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-04-16_34_14-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 1473w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-04-16_34_14-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x74.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-04-16_34_14-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1024x251.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-04-16_34_14-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x188.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-04-16_38_20-.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26541\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-04-16_38_20-.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"799\" height=\"1478\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-04-16_38_20-.png 799w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-04-16_38_20--162x300.png 162w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-04-16_38_20--554x1024.png 554w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/2025-02-04-16_38_20--768x1421.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Perhaps the connection is on another line.<\/p>\n<h2>Summary and Conclusions<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Usually I blog on success stories, but finding a proposed match is not as proposed is a success in a way.<\/li>\n<li>In the first exercise, I decided to try a different tact by taking away the supposed parents of known Robert Hartley to see if Ancestry proposed someone else.<\/li>\n<li>In the second exercise it appears that there is a connection, but the connection does not look to go back to Israel Cownen or Cowing.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In my previous Blog, I looked at two of Joyce&#8217;s recent shared matches. I will continue on. Angela and Joyce Angela comes with a bonus: It appears that Angela and Jaqueline should be fourth cousins to each other if this tree is correct. As this is the main line that I am interested in, I &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2025\/02\/04\/following-my-fathers-cousins-recent-shared-matches\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Following My Father&#8217;s Cousin&#8217;s Recent Shared Matches&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1,7,51],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-26509","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-heading","category-hartley-dna","category-thrulines"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/26509","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=26509"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/26509\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":26542,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/26509\/revisions\/26542"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=26509"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=26509"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=26509"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}