{"id":25930,"date":"2024-12-12T02:39:16","date_gmt":"2024-12-12T02:39:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/?p=25930"},"modified":"2024-12-12T02:39:16","modified_gmt":"2024-12-12T02:39:16","slug":"my-wifes-french-canadian-dna","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2024\/12\/12\/my-wifes-french-canadian-dna\/","title":{"rendered":"My Wife&#8217;s French Canadian DNA"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>My most recent Blog on this topic appears to be from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2022\/04\/02\/painting-some-french-canadian-dna-for-my-wifes-side\/\">April 2022<\/a>. The best way to update my wife&#8217;s French Canadian DNA is through her late father and two late Aunts using DNA Painter.<\/p>\n<h2>A Summary to Date<\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-06-16_05_51-.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25931\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-06-16_05_51-.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1309\" height=\"1422\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-06-16_05_51-.png 1309w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-06-16_05_51--276x300.png 276w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-06-16_05_51--943x1024.png 943w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-06-16_05_51--768x834.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Richard is 45% filled in on his maternal French Candadian side, which is pretty good. This includes 5 ancestors on his LeFevre side and 7 ancestors on his Pouliot side.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-06-16_30_42-.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25932\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-06-16_30_42-.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1221\" height=\"1438\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-06-16_30_42-.png 1221w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-06-16_30_42--255x300.png 255w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-06-16_30_42--869x1024.png 869w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-06-16_30_42--768x904.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Lorraine is 40% filled in on her French Canadian side. She has 6 LeFevre side ancestors mapped and 5 Pouliot side ancestors mapped.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-06-16_33_40-.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25933\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-06-16_33_40-.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1082\" height=\"1441\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-06-16_33_40-.png 1082w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-06-16_33_40--225x300.png 225w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-06-16_33_40--769x1024.png 769w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-06-16_33_40--768x1023.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Aunt Suzy or Virginia is 37% filled in on her French Canadian side. She only shows DNA matches from descendants from two Pouliot ancestors and 5 LeFevre ancestors.<\/p>\n<p>Here, I have summed up the ancestors mapped:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-06-16_58_00-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25934\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-06-16_58_00-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"724\" height=\"459\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-06-16_58_00-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 724w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-06-16_58_00-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x190.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 724px) 100vw, 724px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I short-cutted and didn&#8217;t write down the spouses for all the male ancestors. The DNA could have just as easily come from the spouse in any case.<\/p>\n<h2>X Chromosome<\/h2>\n<p>I notice that there are not a lot of matches on the X Chromosome. Perhaps I can fill in some blanks by looking there. The only place I have available for that is from FTDNA and Gedmatch.<\/p>\n<p>First, I&#8217;ll try Lorraine at FTDNA. Lorraine&#8217;s closest X DNA matches there either do not have trees or do not have useful trees.<\/p>\n<h3>Lorraine and Elizabeth<\/h3>\n<p>Elizabeth has this tree:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-11_53_25-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25937\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-11_53_25-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1201\" height=\"1153\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-11_53_25-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 1201w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-11_53_25-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x288.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-11_53_25-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1024x983.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-11_53_25-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x737.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>However, unlike Ancestry and MyHeritage, FTDNA does not suggest common ancestors. It appears that there could be a Tremblay connection. However, the X-DNA inheritance shows that it cannot be through Jean-Baptiste:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-12_06_22-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25938\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-12_06_22-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1564\" height=\"1183\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-12_06_22-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 1564w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-12_06_22-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x227.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-12_06_22-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1024x775.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-12_06_22-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x581.png 768w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-12_06_22-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1536x1162.png 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The X-DNA Lines of inheritance must one of the following:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Jette<\/li>\n<li>Deschenes<\/li>\n<li>Sasseville<\/li>\n<li>Munger<\/li>\n<li>Cote<\/li>\n<li>Gauthier<\/li>\n<li>Larouche<\/li>\n<li>Fillion<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Munger brings us back here:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-12_23_43-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25939\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-12_23_43-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1767\" height=\"1174\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-12_23_43-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 1767w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-12_23_43-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x199.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-12_23_43-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1024x680.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-12_23_43-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x510.png 768w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-12_23_43-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1536x1021.png 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Further, on the Tremblay Line:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-12_28_26-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25940\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-12_28_26-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"756\" height=\"696\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-12_28_26-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 756w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-12_28_26-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x276.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 706px) 89vw, (max-width: 767px) 82vw, 740px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>These are two common ancestors which are supported by the X-DNA inheritance. Here is Aunt Lorraine&#8217;s Tree:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-12_29_40-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25941\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-12_29_40-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"402\" height=\"267\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-12_29_40-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 402w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-12_29_40-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x199.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 402px) 100vw, 402px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>However, let&#8217;s check Aunt Lorraine&#8217;s X-DNA inheritance:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-12_30_59-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25942\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-12_30_59-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1691\" height=\"874\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-12_30_59-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 1691w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-12_30_59-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x155.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-12_30_59-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1024x529.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-12_30_59-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x397.png 768w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-12_30_59-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1536x794.png 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>If this is the connection, the X-DNA would have to be from Madeline Bouchard. Unfortunately, I have not checked other possibilities:<\/p>\n<p>Here is Cote:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-12_35_17-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25943\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-12_35_17-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1558\" height=\"1162\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-12_35_17-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 1558w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-12_35_17-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x224.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-12_35_17-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1024x764.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-12_35_17-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x573.png 768w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-12_35_17-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1536x1146.png 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This exercise is becoming cumbersome. This is why Ancestry and MyHeritage have an advantage in that they suggest common ancestors. As I know there is a possible connection to Madeleine Bouchard, I would like to assume that she is the correct connection.<\/p>\n<p>Here is the DNA match between Lorraine and Elizabeth:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-18_32_59-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25945\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-18_32_59-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1058\" height=\"806\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-18_32_59-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 1058w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-18_32_59-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x229.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-18_32_59-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1024x780.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-18_32_59-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x585.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>One problem with the match on Chromosomes 14 and 17 is that my analysis above was just for X-DNA. The autosomal matches open up many other possibilities. For now, I will just look at the X-DNA match. Here is the X-DNA match:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-18_44_18-.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25946\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-18_44_18-.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1127\" height=\"1431\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-18_44_18-.png 1127w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-18_44_18--236x300.png 236w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-18_44_18--806x1024.png 806w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-07-18_44_18--768x975.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This one X-DNA match brings Lorriane up to 42% of her maternal side DNA identified versus a previous amount of 42% identified. I feel like I had some success with this approach, so I will try one more X-DNA match.<\/p>\n<h3>Lorraine and Jane<\/h3>\n<p>Jane has a pretty good tree, so I will look at her match with Lorraine:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-08-13_18_34-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25949\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-08-13_18_34-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1538\" height=\"1148\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-08-13_18_34-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 1538w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-08-13_18_34-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x224.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-08-13_18_34-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1024x764.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-08-13_18_34-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x573.png 768w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-08-13_18_34-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1536x1147.png 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I have outlined Jane&#8217;s possible routes of connection with Lorraine. Based on the sound of the surnames, I would go with Roy, Gauthier or Lamott aka Lamoth. Jane&#8217;s tree does not go far beyond these names, so I will skip this match for now.<\/p>\n<h3>Lorraine at MyHeritage<\/h3>\n<p>I am looking for easy answers, so I will try MyHeritage&#8217;s Theories of Family Relativity. Next, I will sort by most recent:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-09-07_43_20-.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25952\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-09-07_43_20-.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1034\" height=\"810\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-09-07_43_20-.png 1034w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-09-07_43_20--300x235.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-09-07_43_20--1024x802.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-09-07_43_20--768x602.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Sylvie has four ways she could match Lorraine, but those ways are all similar. I&#8217;m willing to add Sylvie to my tree to see if she fits in. Here is Theory #1 between Lorraine and Sylvie:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-09-20_39_09-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25954\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-09-20_39_09-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"759\" height=\"650\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-09-20_39_09-Window.png 759w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-09-20_39_09-Window-300x257.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 706px) 89vw, (max-width: 767px) 82vw, 740px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>It looks like this would take a while to confirm, so I will move on to the next Theory:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-09-20_51_31-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25955\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-09-20_51_31-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"711\" height=\"639\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-09-20_51_31-Window.png 711w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-09-20_51_31-Window-300x270.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 711px) 100vw, 711px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Martine&#8217;s Tree at MyHeritage continues on with Tremblay rather than having a Rochefort in there:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-14_31_15-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25957\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-14_31_15-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1542\" height=\"461\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-14_31_15-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 1542w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-14_31_15-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x90.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-14_31_15-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1024x306.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-14_31_15-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x230.png 768w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-14_31_15-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1536x459.png 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ll add Martine to my tree in hopes that she will connect. Here is the baptismal record for Martine&#8217;s father:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-14_44_24-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25958\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-14_44_24-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"964\" height=\"794\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-14_44_24-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 964w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-14_44_24-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x247.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-14_44_24-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x633.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not sure if this is the right place:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-14_49_47-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25959\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-14_49_47-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1182\" height=\"555\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-14_49_47-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 1182w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-14_49_47-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x141.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-14_49_47-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1024x481.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-14_49_47-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x361.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here is the 1931 Census, a year before Martine&#8217;s father was born. I think this is the right place:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-14_52_56-.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25960\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-14_52_56-.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"642\" height=\"738\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-14_52_56-.png 642w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-14_52_56--261x300.png 261w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 642px) 100vw, 642px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>In 1931, the family lived in Jonquiere:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-14_54_49-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25961\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-14_54_49-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1192\" height=\"1055\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-14_54_49-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 1192w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-14_54_49-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x266.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-14_54_49-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1024x906.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-14_54_49-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x680.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Apparently, there was more than one Lace Kenogami in Canada.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-14_57_54-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25962\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-14_57_54-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"2016\" height=\"873\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-14_57_54-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 2016w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-14_57_54-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x130.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-14_57_54-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1024x443.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-14_57_54-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x333.png 768w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-14_57_54-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1536x665.png 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Looking back 40 years, I take this to be Cleopas as a small child:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-15_04_29-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25963\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-15_04_29-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"963\" height=\"637\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-15_04_29-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 963w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-15_04_29-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x198.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-15_04_29-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x508.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>In 1891, Cleopas was not as far North:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-15_06_08-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25964\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-15_06_08-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"436\" height=\"694\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-15_06_08-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 436w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-15_06_08-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-188x300.png 188w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 436px) 100vw, 436px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Cleopas and his father Lin were both journaliers or day workers.<\/p>\n<p>20 years earlier in 1871, LIn was in the same place:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-15_10_32-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25965\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-15_10_32-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1200\" height=\"753\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-15_10_32-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 1200w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-15_10_32-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x188.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-15_10_32-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1024x643.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-15_10_32-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x482.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I see that LIn&#8217;s parents were Frederick and Angelique. Here is Lin&#8217;s marriage record:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-15_14_06-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25966\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-15_14_06-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1944\" height=\"624\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-15_14_06-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 1944w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-15_14_06-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x96.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-15_14_06-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1024x329.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-15_14_06-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x247.png 768w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-15_14_06-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1536x493.png 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Frederick was a farmer or cultivateur. This source at Ancestry seems a bit off:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-15_33_11-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25967\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-15_33_11-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"459\" height=\"1071\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-15_33_11-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 459w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-15_33_11-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-129x300.png 129w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-15_33_11-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-439x1024.png 439w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 459px) 100vw, 459px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This would mean that Frederic married when he was 10 years old. Here is part of the marriage record for Frederic and Angelique from 1837:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-15_39_56-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25968\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-15_39_56-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1056\" height=\"595\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-15_39_56-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 1056w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-15_39_56-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x169.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-15_39_56-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1024x577.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-15_39_56-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x433.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately, I do not see that part that says who his parents were.<\/p>\n<h4>More on Frederic Tremblay<\/h4>\n<p>Here is one:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_06_00-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25970\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_06_00-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"597\" height=\"546\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_06_00-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 597w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_06_00-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x274.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 597px) 100vw, 597px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Frederic married in Baie-St-Paul, so this is a possibility:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_10_43-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25971\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_10_43-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"621\" height=\"1236\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_10_43-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 621w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_10_43-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-151x300.png 151w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_10_43-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-514x1024.png 514w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 621px) 100vw, 621px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here is the 1826 marriage to Flavie Girard:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_15_06-.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25972\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_15_06-.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"2276\" height=\"1212\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_15_06-.png 2276w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_15_06--300x160.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_15_06--1024x545.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_15_06--768x409.png 768w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_15_06--1536x818.png 1536w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_15_06--2048x1091.png 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Further, I have determined that this Frederic is likely not the same Frederic who married Angelique Menard. As I mentioned above, this would assume that Frederic married at the age of 10, but here is called majeur which means he would be of legal marrying age without further consent of his parents. While I do not know that age &#8211; it may be 21 &#8211; it was surely more than 10 years old! On the other hand, Flavie in this record was not of the legal age: mineur. She would have needed the consent of her parents.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_26_05-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25973\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_26_05-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"2280\" height=\"323\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_26_05-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 2280w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_26_05-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x43.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_26_05-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1024x145.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_26_05-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x109.png 768w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_26_05-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1536x218.png 1536w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_26_05-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-2048x290.png 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This tells me that I want to disregard the Ancestry suggestion for the father of Frederic Tremblay:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_33_39-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25974\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_33_39-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"907\" height=\"501\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_33_39-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 907w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_33_39-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x166.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_33_39-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x424.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here is another possibility:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_36_00-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25975\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_36_00-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"615\" height=\"652\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_36_00-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 615w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_36_00-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-283x300.png 283w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 615px) 100vw, 615px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here is the 1861 Census:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_59_21-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25976\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_59_21-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1619\" height=\"1041\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_59_21-LGDisplayExtensionWnd.png 1619w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_59_21-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-300x193.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_59_21-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1024x658.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_59_21-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-768x494.png 768w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-10-16_59_21-LGDisplayExtensionWnd-1536x988.png 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t know who Venerande Tremblay was. Jean Minard could have been a brother to Angelique.<\/p>\n<h4>Expanding the Theory<\/h4>\n<p>I can choose the full Theory between Lorraine and Martine. At the top, it looks like this:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-07_10_24-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25978\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-07_10_24-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1774\" height=\"309\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-07_10_24-Window.png 1774w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-07_10_24-Window-300x52.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-07_10_24-Window-1024x178.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-07_10_24-Window-768x134.png 768w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-07_10_24-Window-1536x268.png 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>There are a lot of problems with this expanded Theory. First Frederick&#8217;s dates are between 1790 and 1863. However, here he is in 1881 with his extended family:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-07_16_35-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25979\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-07_16_35-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1015\" height=\"872\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-07_16_35-Window.png 1015w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-07_16_35-Window-300x258.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-07_16_35-Window-768x660.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Further, his Census ages have him consistently born right around 1815.\u00a0 Further, it appears that the woman in the Theory who is Marie Bouliane had tow husbands. Yet she has a child by the second husband while the first is still alive. All this, plus there is another Tremblay in the line: Lidia. I&#8217;ll move on.<\/p>\n<h3>Lorraine and Claude<\/h3>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-07_24_14-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25980\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-07_24_14-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"636\" height=\"646\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-07_24_14-Window.png 636w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-07_24_14-Window-295x300.png 295w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 636px) 100vw, 636px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The Theory looks straightforward.<\/p>\n<p>I started a tree for Claude. I assume that he knew his grandparents or of them and added his paternal grandmother as suggested by Ancestry. Here is the family in Montreal in 1921. Emile&#8217;s father was from France:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-07_40_36-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25981\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-07_40_36-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1211\" height=\"371\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-07_40_36-Window.png 1211w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-07_40_36-Window-300x92.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-07_40_36-Window-1024x314.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-07_40_36-Window-768x235.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Apparently, there is a sister Lucie on the next page of the Census.<\/p>\n<p>In 1891, Eugenie lived in Magog Village:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-07_44_35-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25982\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-07_44_35-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"712\" height=\"309\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-07_44_35-Window.png 712w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-07_44_35-Window-300x130.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 712px) 100vw, 712px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Her father was a Carpenter:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-07_46_09-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25983\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-07_46_09-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"848\" height=\"427\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-07_46_09-Window.png 848w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-07_46_09-Window-300x151.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-07_46_09-Window-768x387.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here is the tree I have so far:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-13_55_17-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25986\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-13_55_17-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"659\" height=\"217\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-13_55_17-Window.png 659w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-13_55_17-Window-300x99.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 659px) 100vw, 659px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>In order to check the Theory, I will be following Marie Lavoie who looks to have the maiden name of Gagnon. This is likely the marriage record from 1857:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-13_58_01-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25987\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-13_58_01-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"760\" height=\"406\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-13_58_01-Window.png 760w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-13_58_01-Window-300x160.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 706px) 89vw, (max-width: 767px) 82vw, 740px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The location is Les-Eboulements, Quebec:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-13_59_42-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25988\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-13_59_42-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"535\" height=\"414\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-13_59_42-Window.png 535w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-13_59_42-Window-300x232.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 535px) 100vw, 535px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This is not far from Baie-Saint-Paul where I was looking not too long ago for a specific Tremblay family. As the names in the marriage record match with the suggested parents at Ancestry, I will accept the Ancestry hint:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_02_49-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25989\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_02_49-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"596\" height=\"627\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_02_49-Window.png 596w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_02_49-Window-285x300.png 285w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 596px) 100vw, 596px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Oops, I actually need to follow Michel Lavoie:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_05_09-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25990\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_05_09-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"627\" height=\"644\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_05_09-Window.png 627w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_05_09-Window-292x300.png 292w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 627px) 100vw, 627px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t get the same hint for Michel, but based on his marriage record, his father is Laurent Lavoie and his mother is Marie Boivin. Here is the Lavoie family in 1851:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_14_04-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25991\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_14_04-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1291\" height=\"452\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_14_04-Window.png 1291w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_14_04-Window-300x105.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_14_04-Window-1024x359.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_14_04-Window-768x269.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I was able to find an 1828 marriage record for Laurent and Marie:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_21_50-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25992\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_21_50-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1383\" height=\"507\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_21_50-Window.png 1383w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_21_50-Window-300x110.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_21_50-Window-1024x375.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_21_50-Window-768x282.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The original transcription is Laurent Larvia, but that was corrected to Laurent Lavoie. His parents are Michel and Marie Gagnais which I would take to be equivalent to Gagne.<\/p>\n<p>Using the same logic as above, I will accept the Ancestry hints:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_28_10-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25993\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_28_10-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"601\" height=\"567\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_28_10-Window.png 601w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_28_10-Window-300x283.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 601px) 100vw, 601px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Next, I am really hoping that there is a connection:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_30_03-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25994\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_30_03-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"826\" height=\"432\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_30_03-Window.png 826w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_30_03-Window-300x157.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_30_03-Window-768x402.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>However, there is also Gagnon which I assume to be different than Gagne and also another Simard Line.<\/p>\n<p>At this point, Marie is in a published document:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_34_04-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25995\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_34_04-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"690\" height=\"480\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_34_04-Window.png 690w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_34_04-Window-300x209.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 690px) 100vw, 690px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h4>Making the Connection<\/h4>\n<p>This Genealogical Dictionary makes the connection. I have also added Marie&#8217;s siblings. Unfortunately, I do not see my wife&#8217;s ancestor Alexis Lavoie born in 1780. However, I believe that I have the right information.<\/p>\n<p>I now have this tree:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_54_41-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25996\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_54_41-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"892\" height=\"334\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_54_41-Window.png 892w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_54_41-Window-300x112.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_54_41-Window-768x288.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I need to merge this couple with the other couple of the same name in my tree. I go to tools:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_56_32-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25997\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_56_32-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"324\" height=\"796\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_56_32-Window.png 324w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-14_56_32-Window-122x300.png 122w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 324px) 100vw, 324px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>It was difficult to find Jean Baptiste due to whether the name is hyphenated or has markes on the vowels. After merging Jean Baptiste and his wife, I get this:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-15_02_43-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25998\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-15_02_43-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1529\" height=\"640\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-15_02_43-Window.png 1529w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-15_02_43-Window-300x126.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-15_02_43-Window-1024x429.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-15_02_43-Window-768x321.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately, those added from the genealogical dictionary had no sex and were shown as living in many cases. Here is an update of my wife&#8217;s tree:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-15_38_56-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-25999\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-15_38_56-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1582\" height=\"797\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-15_38_56-Window.png 1582w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-15_38_56-Window-300x151.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-15_38_56-Window-1024x516.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-15_38_56-Window-768x387.png 768w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-15_38_56-Window-1536x774.png 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>It turns out that the link on my wife&#8217;s side was not well documented as I was depending on one of my wife&#8217;s relative&#8217;s research. I have had to update my wife&#8217;s side also.<\/p>\n<h3>Finally, the DNA<\/h3>\n<p>Here is Claude&#8217;s DNA match with Lorraine:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-15_41_29-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26000\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-15_41_29-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"536\" height=\"659\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-15_41_29-Window.png 536w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-15_41_29-Window-244x300.png 244w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 536px) 100vw, 536px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m suspicious with all that DNA that there could be matches on other lines. However, I will add this DNA to Lorraine&#8217;s profile as if it were all from the common ancestral couple to see how it works out.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-15_46_47-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26001\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-15_46_47-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"662\" height=\"948\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-15_46_47-Window.png 662w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-15_46_47-Window-209x300.png 209w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 662px) 100vw, 662px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>First, on Chromosome 6, the match looks right as Gagne\/Simard is back from the Pouliot side of Lorraine&#8217;s ancestry.<\/p>\n<p>Chromosome 9 is a problem:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-15_51_19-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26002\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-15_51_19-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1114\" height=\"363\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-15_51_19-Window.png 1114w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-15_51_19-Window-300x98.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-15_51_19-Window-1024x334.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-15_51_19-Window-768x250.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>From visual phasing, I show that Lorraine has Lefevre DNA before position 119 (million). The match between Lorraine and Claude is before that point:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-15_52_43-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26003\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-15_52_43-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"321\" height=\"189\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-15_52_43-Window.png 321w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-15_52_43-Window-300x177.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 321px) 100vw, 321px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The match is between about 104 and 114 million.<\/p>\n<p>Chromosome 12 is also a problem:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-15_55_47-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-26004\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-15_55_47-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"896\" height=\"352\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-15_55_47-Window.png 896w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-15_55_47-Window-300x118.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/2024-12-11-15_55_47-Window-768x302.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>After position 12, Lorraine has Lefevre DNA. So after all that work, only one of the three segments were mapped correctly. And even that mapping is not certain. We just know that it is from the right side of the family.<\/p>\n<h2>Summary and Conclusions<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>In this Blog, I wanted to update my wife&#8217;s French Canadian DNA<\/li>\n<li>In looking at my wife&#8217;s two aunts, it appeared that they were missing mapping on their X-DNA.<\/li>\n<li>This can only be had from FTDNA or 23andMe and the aunts did not test at 23andMe.<\/li>\n<li>FTDNA is difficult to work with on the genealogical side.<\/li>\n<li>Due to X-DNA inheritance patterns, there is a narrowing down between both matches as to where the common ancestors could be. This fact can be helpful.<\/li>\n<li>I was able to find one match with Lorraine where I couild find a likely common ancestor. I mapped that to Lorraine&#8217;s profile using DNA Painter.<\/li>\n<li>I then tried to find common ancestors of Lorraine with DNA matches using MyHeritage&#8217;s Theories of Relativity<\/li>\n<li>These did not work that great &#8211; at least with Lorraine&#8217;s French Canadian ancestry. This ancestry contains a lot of possible common ancestors.<\/li>\n<li>After much genealogical checking, I found one match with possible common ancestors. The match, Claude, had three matching segments with Lorraine. However, after mapping, it was found that two of the three matches could not be with the common ancestors identified.<\/li>\n<li>I think that if I persue updating the DNA again, I may stick with the X-DNA.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>My most recent Blog on this topic appears to be from April 2022. The best way to update my wife&#8217;s French Canadian DNA is through her late father and two late Aunts using DNA Painter. A Summary to Date Richard is 45% filled in on his maternal French Candadian side, which is pretty good. This &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2024\/12\/12\/my-wifes-french-canadian-dna\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;My Wife&#8217;s French Canadian DNA&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[34],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-25930","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-pouliotlefevre"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/25930","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=25930"}],"version-history":[{"count":11,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/25930\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":26005,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/25930\/revisions\/26005"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=25930"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=25930"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=25930"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}