{"id":23877,"date":"2024-02-03T16:11:59","date_gmt":"2024-02-03T16:11:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/?p=23877"},"modified":"2024-02-03T16:11:59","modified_gmt":"2024-02-03T16:11:59","slug":"a-new-clarke-dna-match-at-ancestry","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2024\/02\/03\/a-new-clarke-dna-match-at-ancestry\/","title":{"rendered":"A New Clarke DNA Match at Ancestry"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I have very few DNA matches at Ancestry on the Clarke side. For that reason, I was glad to see that I have a match with Melissa. Ancestry also shows that Melissa and I have the likely common ancestor of Thomas Clarke:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-25-21_16_06-Relationship-to-Melissa-Bell.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-23878\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-25-21_16_06-Relationship-to-Melissa-Bell.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"919\" height=\"1011\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-25-21_16_06-Relationship-to-Melissa-Bell.png 919w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-25-21_16_06-Relationship-to-Melissa-Bell-273x300.png 273w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-25-21_16_06-Relationship-to-Melissa-Bell-768x845.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>One interesting thing that I see is that Melissa&#8217;s great-grandmother died 57 years after my great-grandmother. Melissa has a very nice tree at Ancestry:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-25-21_18_55-Horizontal-Tree-View-Ancestry.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-23879\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-25-21_18_55-Horizontal-Tree-View-Ancestry.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1118\" height=\"382\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-25-21_18_55-Horizontal-Tree-View-Ancestry.png 1118w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-25-21_18_55-Horizontal-Tree-View-Ancestry-300x103.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-25-21_18_55-Horizontal-Tree-View-Ancestry-1024x350.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-25-21_18_55-Horizontal-Tree-View-Ancestry-768x262.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This shows her paternal line going back to Thomas Clarke and Jane Henderson. Whereas, I am descended from Thomas&#8217; first wife who was Jane Spratt.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-25-21_23_50-Horizontal-Tree-View-Ancestry.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-23880\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-25-21_23_50-Horizontal-Tree-View-Ancestry.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1122\" height=\"370\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-25-21_23_50-Horizontal-Tree-View-Ancestry.png 1122w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-25-21_23_50-Horizontal-Tree-View-Ancestry-300x99.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-25-21_23_50-Horizontal-Tree-View-Ancestry-1024x338.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-25-21_23_50-Horizontal-Tree-View-Ancestry-768x253.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h2>Clarke DNA<\/h2>\n<p>According to Ancestry, Melissa and I are likely half 3rd cousins. That can be a good thing as that means that I am related to Melissa on her Clarke side only and not the Henderson side or Spratt side (assuming Thomas&#8217;s two wives were not related). My match of 22 cM fits in well with the expected relationship:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-25-21_43_47-AncestryDNA\u00ae-Matches-Compare.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-23881\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-25-21_43_47-AncestryDNA\u00ae-Matches-Compare.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1098\" height=\"616\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-25-21_43_47-AncestryDNA\u00ae-Matches-Compare.png 1098w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-25-21_43_47-AncestryDNA\u00ae-Matches-Compare-300x168.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-25-21_43_47-AncestryDNA\u00ae-Matches-Compare-1024x574.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-25-21_43_47-AncestryDNA\u00ae-Matches-Compare-768x431.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h3>Shared DNA Matches with Melissa<\/h3>\n<p>I notice that two of the matches I have with Melissa have Lougheed in their ancestry. That name has come up a lot in my matches in the past. Here I started to look at shared DNA matches and put them into a spreadsheet:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/2024-02-03-10_11_30-Melissa-Bell-Shared-Matches-Clarke-Excel.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-23892\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/2024-02-03-10_11_30-Melissa-Bell-Shared-Matches-Clarke-Excel.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"898\" height=\"1059\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/2024-02-03-10_11_30-Melissa-Bell-Shared-Matches-Clarke-Excel.png 898w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/2024-02-03-10_11_30-Melissa-Bell-Shared-Matches-Clarke-Excel-254x300.png 254w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/2024-02-03-10_11_30-Melissa-Bell-Shared-Matches-Clarke-Excel-868x1024.png 868w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/2024-02-03-10_11_30-Melissa-Bell-Shared-Matches-Clarke-Excel-768x906.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>At first I tried to look at whether the shared matches were shared with my siblings that tested at Ancestry (Heidi, Jon, Lori and Sharon). Then I looked at shared matches with DE who was the largest shared DNA match between myself and Melissa. I only looked at my own shared matches . with DE. This would take a long time to go through all the permutations, but I did come up with a lot of Lougheed or Loughead ancestors. This suggests to me that Thomas Clarke has a Loughead ancestor. This is actually helpful as that makes me think that my Spratt ancestor Jane who married Thomas Clarke may not have Loughead ancestors.<\/p>\n<h2>Mapping Clarke DNA<\/h2>\n<p>It has been difficult to map the Clarke DNA. That is because until now, my Clarke DNA matches have aslo been McMaster matches in earlier generations. This is what I have for myself at DNAPainter:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/2024-02-03-10_59_39-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joel.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-23893\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/2024-02-03-10_59_39-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joel.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"910\" height=\"562\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/2024-02-03-10_59_39-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joel.png 910w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/2024-02-03-10_59_39-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joel-300x185.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/2024-02-03-10_59_39-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joel-768x474.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>It would be helpful to map my match with Melissa also, but her match is at AncestryDNA and AncestryDNA does not show where the matches are o the Chromosome. If Melissa were to upload her results to Gedmatch, FTDNA or MyHeritage, I would be able to see where we match on the specific chromosomes.<\/p>\n<h2>More on the Genealogy<\/h2>\n<p>I feel no need to check on Melissa&#8217;s genealogy as we have a DNA match and the connection from her grandfather to our shared 2nd great grandfather seems clear. I have Melissa&#8217;s great-grandmother Susan as the eldest of the second wife of Thomas Clarke:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-27-19_03_40-.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-23883\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-27-19_03_40-.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"266\" height=\"917\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-27-19_03_40-.png 266w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-27-19_03_40--87x300.png 87w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 266px) 100vw, 266px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>That means that my great-grandmother, Margaret Clarke would have been about 3 yeaers older than Susan Clarke. The 1911 Census turns out to be important for Susan Clarke:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-27-19_09_08-census.nationalarchives.ie_reels_nai003248450_.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-23884\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-27-19_09_08-census.nationalarchives.ie_reels_nai003248450_.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1251\" height=\"528\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-27-19_09_08-census.nationalarchives.ie_reels_nai003248450_.png 1251w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-27-19_09_08-census.nationalarchives.ie_reels_nai003248450_-300x127.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-27-19_09_08-census.nationalarchives.ie_reels_nai003248450_-1024x432.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-27-19_09_08-census.nationalarchives.ie_reels_nai003248450_-768x324.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This shows Melissa&#8217;s grandfather, Hubert bell with Hubert&#8217;s parents. Here are Susan and Henry&#8217;s memorial stone:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-27-19_17_10-Susan-Bell-1870-1959-Find-a-Grave-Memorial.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-23885\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-27-19_17_10-Susan-Bell-1870-1959-Find-a-Grave-Memorial.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"446\" height=\"656\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-27-19_17_10-Susan-Bell-1870-1959-Find-a-Grave-Memorial.png 446w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-27-19_17_10-Susan-Bell-1870-1959-Find-a-Grave-Memorial-204x300.png 204w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 446px) 100vw, 446px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here is where the Carrownanty Cemetery is outside of Ballymote:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-27-19_18_02-Carrownanty-Cemetery-Google-Maps.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-23886\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-27-19_18_02-Carrownanty-Cemetery-Google-Maps.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"858\" height=\"717\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-27-19_18_02-Carrownanty-Cemetery-Google-Maps.png 858w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-27-19_18_02-Carrownanty-Cemetery-Google-Maps-300x251.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-27-19_18_02-Carrownanty-Cemetery-Google-Maps-768x642.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Susan and the Clarke family was from near Collaney and my great-grandfather was from near Derry on the map be Lough Arrow. It is interesting that my great-grandparents apparently met in Boston. Here is Tonaponra where the Bell family was in 1911:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-27-19_21_28-Tonaponra-Google-Maps.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-23887\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-27-19_21_28-Tonaponra-Google-Maps.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1318\" height=\"517\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-27-19_21_28-Tonaponra-Google-Maps.png 1318w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-27-19_21_28-Tonaponra-Google-Maps-300x118.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-27-19_21_28-Tonaponra-Google-Maps-1024x402.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-27-19_21_28-Tonaponra-Google-Maps-768x301.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I find it interesting that Henry Bell has Tiraree on his memorial stone as that was not too far from Ballindoon where my Frazers were from:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-27-19_32_20-Tiraree-Google-Maps.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-23888\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-27-19_32_20-Tiraree-Google-Maps.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"773\" height=\"237\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-27-19_32_20-Tiraree-Google-Maps.png 773w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-27-19_32_20-Tiraree-Google-Maps-300x92.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/2024-01-27-19_32_20-Tiraree-Google-Maps-768x235.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I am guessing that these two places are about 4 miles apart.<\/p>\n<h2>Summary and Conclusions<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>I found what I believe to be my first DNA\u00a0 match from the Clarke\/Henderson Line<\/li>\n<li>As Thomas Clarke married first Jane Spratt who died young and then Jane Henderson, any shared matches between Melissa and myself must be from the Clarke side only<\/li>\n<li>Looking at the shared matches at Ancestry, makes it look like Thomas Clarke could have Lougheed or Loughead ancestry from County Sligo.<\/li>\n<li>If Melissa uploads her AncestryDNA results to Gedmatch, MyHeritage or FTDNA, I will be able to see on which Chromosomes she matches with my siblings and myself and perhaps other DNA matches.<\/li>\n<li>I have learned some more about another line of Clarkes which is always interesting.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I have very few DNA matches at Ancestry on the Clarke side. For that reason, I was glad to see that I have a match with Melissa. Ancestry also shows that Melissa and I have the likely common ancestor of Thomas Clarke: One interesting thing that I see is that Melissa&#8217;s great-grandmother died 57 years &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2024\/02\/03\/a-new-clarke-dna-match-at-ancestry\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;A New Clarke DNA Match at Ancestry&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[40],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-23877","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-clarke"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/23877","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=23877"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/23877\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":23894,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/23877\/revisions\/23894"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=23877"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=23877"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=23877"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}