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<\/a><\/p>\nI know the first two matches are not right as they are on the Pilling and not Hartley Line. The William Hartley shows probably because of this Wiliam I have in my tree:<\/p>\n
I had him there because I thought that James and Betty Hartley were the parents of my ancestor Robert Hartley and that they had another son named William. However, I have not been able to prove either. At any rate, Maury shows three possible connections to a William Hartley. However, this William shows as being born in 1804 instead of 1805. Let’s look.<\/p>\n One tree with William Hartley has this information:<\/p>\n This is interesting because this is the same family that I was looking at in my previous Blog. However, I did not have Henry and John Hartley. Here are Maury’s matches:<\/p>\n It looks like Barry and his two children and his brother Russell. They all descend from Jack Whattaker from Australia. I also note that there is the Pilling name in there.<\/p>\n When I look at Maury and Barry’s shared matches, I see one and probably two with Hartley ancestry. Norman is one shared match with Barry and here is Norman’s tree:<\/p>\n Norman has Hartleys on both sides of his tree. Norman has a William Hartley who married a Mary Pickles instead of the Jane Pickles that is in Maury’s ThruLines. Interesting, but I won’t look at it further right now.<\/p>\n Hopefully, this should be easy. I’ll start with Russel’s Tree:<\/p>\n When I make my own tree, I see that Russel’s great-grandfather was born in Trawden and his paternal great-grandmother Jane Blackburn was born in Winewall, next door:<\/p>\n Here is my own version of the Whittaker Tree:<\/p>\n Ancestry wants me to choose John Pilling and Ann Hartley as Jane’s parent’s, but I don’t want to blindly accept these hints.<\/p>\n The 1871 Census does note a Jane Pilling living in Winewall:<\/p>\n She was living next to a Blackburn family, but I do not see a Stephen in this particular family at this time. Another interesting thing about this Pilling family is that the mother came from Marton, Yorkshire. In my previous Blog, I was looking at a Hartley ThruLine between myself and Paul:<\/p>\n This seems like too much of a coincidence. The Ann (possibly Hartley) from this Blog was born about 1834 according to the 1871 Census. In my previous Blog, I was also confused as to why Ann Hartley’s father appeared to be Samuel Bell:<\/p>\n As all this information is confusing, I will try to summarize to see if I can reduce the confusion:<\/p>\n It helps for me to create a chart:<\/p>\n On the left side of the chart, there would be more matches descending from Jack Whittaker. The reason this could be important is that both these lines go back to Ann Hartley and I don’t have many Hartley leads in my DNA matches that could give a clue on my Hartley heritage.<\/p>\n I asked my genealogy friend Elaine who was originally from the Trawden\/Colne area about Marton and she sent me this map:<\/p>\n At the top of the map is West and East Marton. Elaine says a canal goes through the Town and down to Colne.<\/p>\n Elaine also came up with this 1851 Census which was helpful:<\/p>\n Recall that at the time of her marriage, Ann was living in Smithy Field. Here she is in 1851 – a few years before her marriage. Here she is after her marriage in 1861 in Trawden with John – although his last name looks like Billing:<\/p>\n Also Joseph Hartley who was Ann’s son is now called Joseph Pilling. This also accounts for the Jane Pilling who I was having trouble finding.<\/p>\n My thinking is that this should be Ann Hartley:<\/p>\n Anne’s mother was Anne Joanna Hartley. Here is another child of Ann Johanna named William Hartley:<\/p>\n William was born September 7, 1829. I am having trouble finding any of these three people in the 1841 Census. This appears to be William in 1851:<\/p>\n He is a lodger in East Marton. He is with Richard Hartley who is the son of Nancy Hartley who was born in Settle:<\/p>\n Here is Settle:<\/p>\n I feel like I am running out of information on Ann Joanna or Joahanna Hartley at this point.<\/p>\n At the time of Ann Hartley’s marriage in 1853, she gave the name of her father as Samuel Bell. Could it be that she had information of who her father was? Here is a Samuel Bell living in Barnoldswick in 1861:<\/p>\n Let’s do the math. Samuel was born around 1806. Ann Hartley was born 1832. That means that Samuel would have been 26 years old when Ann Hartley was born. That sounds reasonable. Just to add a little confusion, Samuel lists his father in his 1840 marriage record as what appears to be John Slater:<\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nShared Matches with Maury<\/h3>\n
<\/a><\/p>\nChecking Out the Whittaker Tree<\/h3>\n
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<\/a><\/p>\nMore on Ann Hartley<\/h2>\n
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