{"id":22458,"date":"2023-08-30T09:07:21","date_gmt":"2023-08-30T09:07:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/?p=22458"},"modified":"2023-08-30T09:07:21","modified_gmt":"2023-08-30T09:07:21","slug":"my-familys-hathaway-thrulines-at-ancestry","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2023\/08\/30\/my-familys-hathaway-thrulines-at-ancestry\/","title":{"rendered":"My Family&#8217;s Hathaway ThruLines at Ancestry"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I was recently looking at my family&#8217;s DNA matches and came upon a possible Common Ancestor between my sister Lori and Holly:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-27-19_49_20-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-22459\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-27-19_49_20-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"544\" height=\"869\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-27-19_49_20-Window.png 544w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-27-19_49_20-Window-188x300.png 188w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 544px) 100vw, 544px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The second generation from the top seems odd as there is a Joseph born in 1771 and a John born in 1825. Here is a summary of my tree at Ancestry:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-27-19_54_31-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-22460\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-27-19_54_31-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"338\" height=\"432\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-27-19_54_31-Window.png 338w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-27-19_54_31-Window-235x300.png 235w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 338px) 100vw, 338px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I see two other trees at Ancestry with similar information. I would like to say that Holly and Lori are not likely connected in the way Ancesty has them.<\/p>\n<h3>Holly&#8217;s Tree<\/h3>\n<p>I&#8217;ll try to build out Holly&#8217;s Hathaway Line to see what I can see. Holly&#8217;s line goes to her maternal grandfather:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-20_56_58-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-22462\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-20_56_58-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"227\" height=\"190\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This is not much to go on. I am guessing that Adiel could be this person:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-21_19_52-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-22463\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-21_19_52-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"435\" height=\"222\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-21_19_52-Window.png 435w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-21_19_52-Window-300x153.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 435px) 100vw, 435px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The people at the top right should not show as living, so I corrected that:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-21_23_56-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-22464\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-21_23_56-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"688\" height=\"416\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-21_23_56-Window.png 688w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-21_23_56-Window-300x181.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 688px) 100vw, 688px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here is the family in Wareham in 1870:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-21_26_21-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-22465\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-21_26_21-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"576\" height=\"263\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-21_26_21-Window.png 576w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-21_26_21-Window-300x137.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 576px) 100vw, 576px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here is a record that could explain some of the confusion:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-21_29_38-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-22466\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-21_29_38-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1484\" height=\"192\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-21_29_38-Window.png 1484w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-21_29_38-Window-300x39.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-21_29_38-Window-1024x132.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-21_29_38-Window-768x99.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here is John Hathaway&#8217;s marriage record. It appears that his father&#8217;s first name was David and his mother&#8217;s last name was Hathaway. However, the Hathaway could be the wife&#8217;s maiden name. The suggestion for John&#8217;s father makes more sense than the common ancestor listed earlier in the Blog:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-21_34_03-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-22467\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-21_34_03-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"882\" height=\"260\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-21_34_03-Window.png 882w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-21_34_03-Window-300x88.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-21_34_03-Window-768x226.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-21_41_36-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-22468\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-21_41_36-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"460\" height=\"212\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-21_41_36-Window.png 460w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-21_41_36-Window-300x138.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 460px) 100vw, 460px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>David had two Hathaways for parents.<\/p>\n<p>I can get the tree back to 1690:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-21_46_06-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-22469\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-21_46_06-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"923\" height=\"519\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-21_46_06-Window.png 923w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-21_46_06-Window-300x169.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-21_46_06-Window-768x432.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Do Lori and Holly share DNA from Arthur from 1690? Possibly. But possibly from some other ancestor in colonial Massachusetts. Interestingly enough, I already have an Arthur Hathaway chart:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-21_56_47-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-22470\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-21_56_47-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"196\" height=\"877\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-21_56_47-Window.png 196w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-21_56_47-Window-67x300.png 67w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 196px) 100vw, 196px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I have had trouble placing Ned, and one place he fits in is on my Hathaway tree. We show as 10th cousins! Holly should be in here somewhere also. Here I have added Holly on the left side of the chart:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-22_07_47-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-22471\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-22_07_47-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"242\" height=\"922\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-22_07_47-Window.png 242w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-28-22_07_47-Window-79x300.png 79w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 242px) 100vw, 242px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Holly and Lori should be 8th cousins.<\/p>\n<h2>Other Hathaway Connections<\/h2>\n<p>I do have this chart of DNA matches going back to Simon Hathaway who was born in 1711:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-30-04_48_16-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-22474\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-30-04_48_16-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1690\" height=\"480\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-30-04_48_16-Window.png 1690w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-30-04_48_16-Window-300x85.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-30-04_48_16-Window-1024x291.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-30-04_48_16-Window-768x218.png 768w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/2023-08-30-04_48_16-Window-1536x436.png 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I have circled my family and two of my father&#8217;s first cousins who have also tested Ancestry. These two cousins also have other Hathaway connections which makes the DNA comparisons tricky.<\/p>\n<h2>Summary and Conclusions<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>My sister&#8217;s connection to Holly as shown by Ancestry appears to be wrong<\/li>\n<li>The genealogical connection between Holly and Lori go back to Arthur Hathaway who was born in 1690<\/li>\n<li>It is difficult to tell whether the DNA connection between Holly and Lori is from Arthur Hathaway. I have not found other connections, but they may be there.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I was recently looking at my family&#8217;s DNA matches and came upon a possible Common Ancestor between my sister Lori and Holly: The second generation from the top seems odd as there is a Joseph born in 1771 and a John born in 1825. Here is a summary of my tree at Ancestry: I see &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2023\/08\/30\/my-familys-hathaway-thrulines-at-ancestry\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;My Family&#8217;s Hathaway ThruLines at Ancestry&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-22458","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-heading"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22458","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=22458"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22458\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":22475,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22458\/revisions\/22475"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=22458"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=22458"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=22458"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}