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<\/a><\/p>\nThis is the connectioin with my sister Lori. She matches Brian at 9 cM. I match him at 8 cM, so these matches are quite small. Brian’s main tree is private, but he has this tree on the Hargreaves side:<\/p>\n
This tree is consistent with the Ancestry connected genealogy above except that Brian’s tree stops with John Hargreaves. I do see this tree at Ancestry:<\/p>\n However, I see many other trees with different parents for John Hargreaves.<\/p>\n Brian’s genealogy is quite thorough. He has the wedding certificate for Elizabeth Hargreaves:<\/p>\n She was married in a Methodist Church in Nottingham. Her father was Alfred Hargreaves. Here is Alfred’s baptismala record from Burnley in 1880:<\/p>\n Alfred’s father was a mason.<\/p>\n I’ll move on quickly to Richard Hargreaves. The 1881 Census indicates that Richard was born in Brierfield, Lancashire.<\/p>\n In 1871, we see Richard is in Bacup:<\/p>\n Here is Brierfield:<\/p>\n This seems to be a good guess for a baptismal record for Richard Hargreaves:<\/p>\n A Collier is a coal miner. It appears that the younger Richard was a Miner in 1861:<\/p>\n This appears to be a likely marriage record for the elder Richard Hargreaves:<\/p>\n The elder Richard is listed as being from Roughlee in the 1861 Census. In the 1861 Census, he is from Pendle Forest:<\/p>\n Here is Roughlee and Newchurch in Pendle:<\/p>\n I believe that Pendle Forest or the Forest of Pendle would be to the North of Newchurch-in-Pendle.\u00a0 This marriage differs a little from Brian’s as he has Richard marrying Ann Isherwood:<\/p>\n The problem with this is that this marriage takes place in Bolton and both parties are shown as being from Bolton which I feel is less likely than the Forest of Pendle scenario above. Also Ann would have been on the older side – about 31 at the time of her marriage – which may have been unusual.<\/p>\n Here are Richard and Ann in 1841:<\/p>\n They apparently have a son, John who was 12. That would mean that John was born in about 1829 – before the 1833 wedding of Anne Isherwood.<\/p>\n It is beginning to seem possible that the connection may be more from Colne than from Bacup:<\/p>\n The Hargreaves, from what I can tell were from the area of Brierfield which is closer to Colne than Bacup. I have ancstors from both the Bacup and Colne area.<\/p>\n I never established this:<\/p>\n The 1871 Census says she was from Sabden:<\/p>\n In 1871:<\/p>\n Ann has a daughter who is 4, so they may have married 1867 or before:<\/p>\n Here, Richard is a mason and his father a collier. This agrees with Brian’s tree.<\/p>\n Beforeee 1841, we don’t have the advantage of the Census. I have another ThruLines connection here:<\/p>\n I match Anne and Louise whose ancestry goes back to George Hargreaves.<\/p>\n My ancestry James Howorth married a Mary and had several children. Their first known child was Betty:<\/p>\n If we back up 9 months, that brings us into the end of April 1788 for a marriage:<\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nSlogging Through Some Hargreaves Genealogy<\/h2>\n
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