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<\/a><\/p>\nJim matches Steve and John at a GD of 3. Michael doesn’t show perhaps due to his match settings or the Genetic Distance was too far.<\/p>\n
At 111 STRs, Jim matches John a little more closely than Steve by STRs:<\/p>\n
Here John is seen as matching more closely by STRs.\u00a0 However, in the past, Steve seemed to match me better by STRs, but when Steve took the BigY SNP test, it appeared that Michael, Steve, my brother and I all matched at about the same level.<\/p>\n My brother Jim has this TiP Report with John:<\/p>\n I’ll use 90% confidence and I get 10 generations. I’ll use 35 years per generation and get 350 years. I’ll use 1950 for the present generation which comes out neatly at the year 1600. That comes out closer to the present than the year of 1500 I was using for the common ancestor of Michael, Steve and myself.<\/p>\n By comparison, here is Jim’s TiP Report with Steve:<\/p>\n This brings us back another 2 generations or another 70 years to 1530. This seems consistant with the SNP analysis that I did previously. The reason that I am using Jim’s results is that I have an extra STR mutation that Jim does not have. Now the fact that I have this mutation could mean that one was due, or that because two brothers tested, there was more chance of getting that mutation.<\/p>\n I suppose that it would be more accurate to do the calculations from my viewpoint also and to average the two dates.<\/p>\n With Steve and myself I get an estimated common ancestor at 14 generations with a 91% probability. That averages out to one more generation or to 1495 or even closer to the year of 1500 I was using with the SNPs.\u00a0 Between John and me, it is 12 generations at 91% . If I were to average the estimated date of the common ancestor between John and myself and with John and Jim, I would subtract another generation to get the year 1565.<\/p>\n From John’s viewpoint, the difference is greater:<\/p>\n The difference between John and my family is that I have that extra mutation that Jim did not have. I already looked at the TiP report between John and Jim and John and myself. Here is the TiP report between John and Steve:<\/p>\n Here I will use 1950 – (16 X 35) or 1390. That is a long time ago to have a common ancestor if that is right. Those must have been some early Hartleys. Based on STRs alone, it would appear that My family is slightly more closely matched to John than to Steve and that Steve is more closely matched to our family than to Steve’s Branch of Hartleys.<\/p>\n The 111 STR test is more accurate. Mervin fell off the list at 111 STRs as the matching was more distant. Lawrence has ordered the BigY test, so it will be interesting to see how the different Hartley YDNA tests compare with each other.<\/p>\n I will be looking forward to see how the rest of John’s BigY test turns out. I could try to draw a STR tree, but my past attempts have been a lesson in futility, so I will forego that exercise at this time.<\/p>\n Here are current lab times:<\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nThe TiP Report<\/h2>\n
<\/a><\/p>\nThe TiP Report with Steve<\/h3>\n
<\/a><\/p>\nTiP for Joel<\/h3>\n
STRs from John’s Point of View<\/h2>\n
<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nJohn’s 67 STR Results<\/h2>\n
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