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<\/a><\/p>\nThe New part doesn’t jump out, but it is there.<\/p>\n
The Theory has Elaine and Isabel as 1\/2 third cousins. I’ll check my Ancestry Tree to see if this makes sense. It doesn’t:<\/p>\n I have Abraham’s father as John Rayner. I had this tree in an earlier Blog on my mother-in-law Joan:<\/p>\n Unfortunately, I missed one of Isabel’s ancestors where the red arrow is. Elaine is Joan’s sister. I assume that makes Elaine and Isabel full fourth cousins. I suppose there could be another connection or connections. Here is a corrected tree:<\/p>\n Here is the new Rayner\/Watson DNA added to Elaine’s tree<\/p>\n Here is the same graphic for Elaine’s sister Joan who had fewer matches with Isabel:<\/p>\n This match gets Joan up to 41% painted overall from 40% previously.<\/p>\n MyHeritage has this for Theory 1:<\/p>\n I can’t figure out how MyHeritage got this connection. Their Theory 2 and three match what Ancetry has:<\/p>\n The next connection is to Dicks also, but a generation further back from MyHeritage’s Theory 1:<\/p>\n <\/p>\n I’ll assume that Mervyn’s connection is on the Upshall side. I’ve already added Mervyn to Joan’s DNAPainter Map. I’ll add Mervyn to Elaine’s map:<\/p>\n Mervyn doesn’t overlap with Barbara, but doesn’t conflict with other more recent Upshall matches.<\/p>\n Next, I need to verify this connection. I see that Leslie appears on Elaine’s ThruLines at Ancestry:<\/p>\n I’ll assume that Leslie’s genealogy is right.<\/p>\n This match gets Elaine up to 28% painted overall from 27%.<\/p>\n This gets Joan up another percent to 42% painted overall. Leslie adds some important DNA to Elaine and Joan’s maternal side:<\/p>\n I’m surprised that I haven’t built a Reinhold DNA\/Genealogy Tree. I’ll do that now. In order to do it right, I’ll try building out Leslie’s tree. Here is a birth record for Leslie’s grandfather Leslie:<\/p>\n I got this far with a fast tree, and it seems OK:<\/p>\n Other Ancestry trees has Lydia’s husband as Frederick John Rhynold born 1792. Here is my Rhynold Tree:<\/p>\n I will expect more additions over time.<\/p>\n I would like to check this Theory. There are a few ways to do this. The best way is to build a tree for Betty back to\u00a0 the commn ancestors. Or I could build my tree down to Betty. Or I could check Ancestry ThruLines. I’ll start with the ThruLines as they are easiest:<\/p>\n Elaine has 4 matches with descendants of Alexander Upshall, so that is a good sign. Here is a late addition for Theodore from 1951:<\/p>\n It turns out I already had Theodore in my family tree.<\/p>\n Betty adds some Upshall\/Dicks DNA to Elaine’s Chromosome 6 and confirms some matches on Chromosome 11.<\/p>\n Betty’s match is similar in that it adds some DNA to Chromosome 6 and confirms other Upshall\/Dicks DNA matches.<\/p>\n This relationship is supported by Thrulines at Ancestry:<\/p>\n This added a new ancestral couple for Elaine and segments on Chromosomes 1, 4, and 12.<\/p>\n The next logical step is to add Joanne to Joan’s DNAPainter profile:<\/p>\n Joanne’s match gets Joan up another percent to 43% painted overall. This is what 43% looks like for Joan:<\/p>\n It took me a while to figure this one out:<\/p>\n Edna also has a Theory 2 with Christopher Dicks who was the father of this Christopher Dicks:<\/p>\n I haven’t been keeping up with my Dicks DNA Project and had Edna already but as per Theory 2:<\/p>\n Here I’ve added in Edna again:<\/p>\n Finally, I’ll add Edna to Joan’s DNAPainter profile. I turns out I had mapped Edna to the elder Christopher. She would be better mapped to the younger Christopher DIcks. I think I can fix that in this screen:<\/p>\n I searched for Edna on Elaine’s match list but could not find her.<\/p>\n However, Alicia and JP are at Ancestry and I see this for JP at Ancestry:<\/p>\n For some reasons, MyHeritage did not pick up these other connections. I’ll go ahead and map Alicia as Newcombe:<\/p>\n Alicia’s results are very similar to Joanne’s. When I look at the shared matches at MyHeritage, I see that Joanne is Alicia’s mother.\u00a0 That makes sense based on the results. Of course, that means that JP is Joanne.<\/p>\n Diann has a Theory with Elaine on the headachey Dicks side:<\/p>\n <\/p>\n This looks good on the surface, but I don’t have Susan so far on my DNA tree and I don’t see a Susan on the Ancestry ThruLines:<\/p>\n Diann would add new DNA to Elaine’s map, so this would be an interesting connection to track down in the future.<\/p>\n Are these charts faded-looking because they are Theories? My shortcut check for Jacqueline’s tree is by using Ancestry’s ThruLines. ThrulLines shows that Elaine has 155 DNA matches on the MacArthur Line, but 51 of those are on the marion MacArthur Line. Elaine has 20 matches on the Ellen Line.<\/p>\n I see that Jacqueline is actually on the ThruLines:<\/p>\n The ThruLines don’t prove the connection, but strongly suggest it to be right. Next, I’ll compare the DNA with other MacArthur matches:<\/p>\n MG is Jacqueline’s mother. Robert is also a theory with Elaine, but he is MG’s son, so would add no new DNA.<\/p>\n I am leaning toward this one:<\/p>\n The Harriet Rayner Line is well-represented by ThruLines:<\/p>\n I’ll add Josh to Elaine’s DNAPainter Profile:<\/p>\n It looks like there is a possible crossover between Josh and Josheph. That could mean a few things. One possibility is that Elaine’s match with Josh is on the Simmons side. That would be one explaination of why one match ends where the other starts.<\/p>\n These two match on Chromosome 4:<\/p>\n I had already added Josh to Joan’s profile, but I had the match from the older Hopgood\/Yeo. I’ll erase this match and keep the one I just added.<\/p>\n While I’m on Joan, I’ll look at this Theory:<\/p>\n The good thing about this Theory is that there are not other proposed theories. Ancestry’s ThruLines gets down to David’s grandmother Evelyn:<\/p>\n I would say that is evidence enough for my purposes of mapping David to Joan’s profile:<\/p>\n It appears that I have already mapped David. When I check more on the earlier David, I see this:<\/p>\n I don’t know why David would have had more matches earlier and why they were mapped to MacArthur.<\/p>\n I tried to see if Elaine had a Theory with David, but I didn’t see one.<\/p>\n Ancestry’s ThruLines get down to John England:<\/p>\n Margaret adds to the confusion on Chromosome 2:<\/p>\n I could not find this match for Elaine.<\/p>\n I have found this Theory to be wrong before.\u00a0 Ron is the son of Isabel who I have mapped already, so I’ll skip Ron.<\/p>\n He is also at Ancestry:<\/p>\n I have already mapped his father, so I don’t need to map Randy. I should be getting to the end of the new Theories. The smaller match Theories are often not as important as the bigger DNA matches.<\/p>\n Here is an interesting Threory:<\/p>\n A fifth cousin is pretty distant. I looked to see if there were any Ancestry ThruLines and there were not, so I will put this Theory on hold.\u00a0 So that covers it for ‘new’ Theories for Elaine. There were others that I didn’t discuss as the genealogy didn’t look right. There is perhaps another connection than the one suggested.<\/p>\n These next Theories should apply to Joan only as I am done with her sister Elaine:<\/p>\n This relationship appers to be supported by ThruLines:<\/p>\n In fact, Alicia is mentioned above in this Blog. Wendy looks to be a 2nd cousin once removed to Alicia. I already have Wendy in Joan’s DNA map:<\/p>\n I’ll need to sort out Joan’s Paternal Chromosome 2 at some point as it is quite a mess:<\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nAdding Isobel to DNAPainter<\/h2>\n
<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nElaine and Mervyn<\/h2>\n
<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nElaine and Leslie on the Reinhold Line<\/h2>\n
<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nMapping Leslie to Joan’s Map<\/h3>\n
<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nA Reinhold Tree<\/h3>\n
<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nBack to the Upshall Family with Betty<\/h2>\n
<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nAdding Betty’s DNA to Joan’s DNA Map<\/h3>\n
Joanne on Elaine’s Paternal Side<\/h2>\n
<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nAdding Joanne to DNAPainter<\/h3>\n
<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nEdna on the Dicks Line<\/h2>\n
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<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nElaine and Diann<\/h2>\n
<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nJacqueline Shows a MacArthur Theory with Elaine<\/h2>\n
<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nElaine and Josh Have Three Theories<\/h2>\n
<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nJosh and Joan<\/h3>\n
<\/a><\/p>\nDavid and Joan<\/h2>\n
<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nJoan and Margaret’s Theory on the Ellis Side<\/h2>\n
<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nElaine and Ron on the Rainer Side<\/h2>\n
<\/a><\/p>\nElaine and Randy<\/h2>\n
<\/a><\/p>\n<\/a><\/p>\nElaine and Rachel<\/h2>\n
<\/a><\/p>\nJoan and Wendy<\/h2>\n
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