{"id":18394,"date":"2021-09-24T01:14:25","date_gmt":"2021-09-24T01:14:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/?p=18394"},"modified":"2021-09-24T01:14:25","modified_gmt":"2021-09-24T01:14:25","slug":"adding-to-my-mother-in-law-ellis-dna-map","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2021\/09\/24\/adding-to-my-mother-in-law-ellis-dna-map\/","title":{"rendered":"Adding to My Mother-in-Law Ellis&#8217; DNA Map"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I learned something interesting recently. My wife&#8217;s mother&#8217;s DNA seems more endogamous than my wife&#8217;s father&#8217;s. Endogamous means that your ancestors tended to intermarry with each other&#8217;s cousins. One way to check this is through AncestryDNA. Here are some numbers for Joan:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-12_53_06-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18395\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-12_53_06-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"319\" height=\"102\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-12_53_06-Window.png 319w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-12_53_06-Window-300x96.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 319px) 100vw, 319px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Divide Joan&#8217;s close matches by all her matches and multiply by 100 to get a percentage. I get 9.6%. For Joan&#8217;s sister Elaine, I get 10.5%. My wife&#8217;s father is not at Ancestry, but his two sisters are. For Lorraine, I get 7.3% and for Suzy, I get 7.6%. That means that there was more intermarriage on the Ellis side than the Butler side. The higher the percentage, the higher the intermarriage rate. I had assumed, that as half of Butler was French Canadian, that there would be more intermarriage there, but the PEI and Newfoundland ancestry of the Ellis family trumps the Butlers.<\/p>\n<h2>Updating Joan&#8217;s DNAPainter Map<\/h2>\n<p>This is what I have:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-13_02_49-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18396\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-13_02_49-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"767\" height=\"933\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-13_02_49-Window.png 767w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-13_02_49-Window-247x300.png 247w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The higher percentage Joan has explains why I had trouble finding consistant common ancestors for some of Joan&#8217;s DNA matches. Many matches had more than one possible set of common ancestors. Joan is 36% painted overall now. I would like to bring that number up a bit in this Blog.<\/p>\n<h2>Ivan at MyHeritage<\/h2>\n<p>MyHeritage has DNA and Trees, so is a good place to start:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-13_11_54-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18397\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-13_11_54-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"699\" height=\"615\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-13_11_54-Window.png 699w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-13_11_54-Window-300x264.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 699px) 100vw, 699px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Based on Joan&#8217;s ThruLines at Ancestry, George seems to be a likely son of Peter Upshall:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-13_17_53-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18398\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-13_17_53-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1916\" height=\"430\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-13_17_53-Window.png 1916w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-13_17_53-Window-300x67.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-13_17_53-Window-1024x230.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-13_17_53-Window-768x172.png 768w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-13_17_53-Window-1536x345.png 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Ivan overlaps with two people who have Dicks genealogy:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-13_28_12-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18399\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-13_28_12-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"779\" height=\"229\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-13_28_12-Window.png 779w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-13_28_12-Window-300x88.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-13_28_12-Window-768x226.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>That means that Ivan could have Dicks genealogy or that Edna and Cheryl could have Upshall genealogy. There are even other possibilities!<\/p>\n<h2>Glenys at MyHeritage<\/h2>\n<p>Glenys matches on the Upshall Line:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_03_55-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18401\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_03_55-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"727\" height=\"542\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_03_55-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png 727w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_03_55-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-300x224.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 727px) 100vw, 727px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>She shows as a 2nd cousin once removed. I can check on the tree quickly. Glenys has her mom as Gladys Upshall from Newfoundland. She has her grandfather as Theordore Malcolm Upshall from Harbour Buffett. That is where my wife&#8217;s ancestors came from, so that makes sense.<\/p>\n<p>This record at Ancestry is helpful:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_14_56-Matilda-Shave-Hints.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18402\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_14_56-Matilda-Shave-Hints.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"874\" height=\"769\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_14_56-Matilda-Shave-Hints.png 874w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_14_56-Matilda-Shave-Hints-300x264.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_14_56-Matilda-Shave-Hints-768x676.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I painted Glenys in, but she did not add any new DNA.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_23_50-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18403\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_23_50-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"988\" height=\"574\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_23_50-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png 988w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_23_50-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan-300x174.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_23_50-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan-768x446.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h2>Irma at MyHeritage (MacArthur)<\/h2>\n<p>The MacArthurs had a large family, so Joan will have a lot of 4th cousins from that line:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_26_17-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18404\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_26_17-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"731\" height=\"638\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_26_17-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png 731w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_26_17-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-300x262.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 731px) 100vw, 731px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here are the ThruLines from Ancestry:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_28_43-ThruLines\u00ae-for-Malcolm-MacArthur.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18405\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_28_43-ThruLines\u00ae-for-Malcolm-MacArthur.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1911\" height=\"309\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_28_43-ThruLines\u00ae-for-Malcolm-MacArthur.png 1911w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_28_43-ThruLines\u00ae-for-Malcolm-MacArthur-300x49.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_28_43-ThruLines\u00ae-for-Malcolm-MacArthur-1024x166.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_28_43-ThruLines\u00ae-for-Malcolm-MacArthur-768x124.png 768w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_28_43-ThruLines\u00ae-for-Malcolm-MacArthur-1536x248.png 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Joan has 175 matches, with 55 matches on her Marion MacArthur Line. The Effie MacArthur at MyHeritage is probably the Euphemia at Ancestry. Let&#8217;s add in Irma:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_37_24-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18406\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_37_24-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"960\" height=\"562\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_37_24-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png 960w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_37_24-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan-300x176.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_37_24-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan-768x450.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>On Chromosomes 4 and 9, the MacArthur DNA is bumping into the Ellis DNA, so something could be off in the genealogy on one or both sides.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_39_43-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18407\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_39_43-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"966\" height=\"518\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_39_43-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_.png 966w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_39_43-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_-300x161.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_39_43-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_-768x412.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately, I&#8217;m not up to sorting it our right now. My guess is that Irma could have Ellis ancestry.<\/p>\n<h2>Mervyn on the Upshall Side<\/h2>\n<p>Mervyn is also on Ancestry:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_56_29-ThruLines\u00ae-for-Peter-Upshall.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18408\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_56_29-ThruLines\u00ae-for-Peter-Upshall.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1853\" height=\"627\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_56_29-ThruLines\u00ae-for-Peter-Upshall.png 1853w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_56_29-ThruLines\u00ae-for-Peter-Upshall-300x102.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_56_29-ThruLines\u00ae-for-Peter-Upshall-1024x346.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_56_29-ThruLines\u00ae-for-Peter-Upshall-768x260.png 768w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-16_56_29-ThruLines\u00ae-for-Peter-Upshall-1536x520.png 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Based on Joan&#8217;s 7 matches to descendants of Susan Upshall, I&#8217;d say it is time to add Susan to my wife&#8217;s ancestry tree.<\/p>\n<p>The match on Chromosome 2 is interesting:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-17_10_31-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18409\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-17_10_31-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"990\" height=\"280\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-17_10_31-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png 990w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-17_10_31-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan-300x85.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-17_10_31-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan-768x217.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Mervyn is matching the Dicks. However, if Chris Dicks married a Collette for example, this would make sense as Mervyn is also a Collette.<\/p>\n<h2>Richard on the MacArthur Line<\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-17_15_25-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18410\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-17_15_25-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"724\" height=\"639\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-17_15_25-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png 724w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-17_15_25-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-300x265.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 724px) 100vw, 724px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>It is not clear to me why the top person was deleted. It seems clear that it would be MacArthur\/MacDougall. I&#8217;ll just assume the genealogy is right.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-17_25_48-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18411\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-17_25_48-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"986\" height=\"932\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-17_25_48-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png 986w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-17_25_48-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan-300x284.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-17_25_48-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan-768x726.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Richard filled in some paternal DNA for Joan on Chromosomes 1 and 17, but her overall painted percentage is still 36%.<\/p>\n<h2>Rebecca: Another MacArthur Descendant<\/h2>\n<p>Rebecca comes down by way of Hugh MacArthur:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-17_31_12-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18412\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-17_31_12-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"727\" height=\"640\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-17_31_12-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png 727w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-17_31_12-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-300x264.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 727px) 100vw, 727px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Rebecaa matches Joan on Chromosome 11:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-17_35_40-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18413\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-17_35_40-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"990\" height=\"238\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-17_35_40-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png 990w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-17_35_40-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan-300x72.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-17_35_40-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan-768x185.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Rebecca&#8217;s match overlaps a bit on the Rayner side. My colors are a bit off. I need more contrast between MacArthur and William Ellis. Also between Ed and John Rayner.<\/p>\n<p>Rebecca brings Joan up to 37% painted overall and 29% paternal.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-17_43_43-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18414\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-17_43_43-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"856\" height=\"895\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-17_43_43-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png 856w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-17_43_43-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan-287x300.png 287w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-21-17_43_43-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan-768x803.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h2>David at MyHeritage: A New Line?<\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-07_25_28-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18416\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-07_25_28-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"708\" height=\"507\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-07_25_28-Window.png 708w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-07_25_28-Window-300x215.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 708px) 100vw, 708px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>David matches on the Gorrill\/Newcombe line.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-07_31_49-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18417\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-07_31_49-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1074\" height=\"742\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-07_31_49-Window.png 1074w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-07_31_49-Window-300x207.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-07_31_49-Window-1024x707.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-07_31_49-Window-768x531.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>David&#8217;s match is on Chromosome 14 and gets Joan up to 31% painted (from 29%) on her paternal side.<\/p>\n<h2>Rhonda on the Ellis Side<\/h2>\n<p>I feel like I have a long way to go here:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-11_54_14-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18419\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-11_54_14-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"693\" height=\"708\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-11_54_14-Window.png 693w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-11_54_14-Window-294x300.png 294w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 693px) 100vw, 693px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Rhonda shows as a third cousin twice removed to Joan.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-11_59_39-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18420\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-11_59_39-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"876\" height=\"290\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-11_59_39-Window.png 876w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-11_59_39-Window-300x99.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-11_59_39-Window-768x254.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The match on Chromosome 17 should indicate that the match with Debbie should be on the Ellis side and not the Gorrill side.<\/p>\n<h2>Wendy on the Newcombe\/Pring Line<\/h2>\n<p>This would be a new set of ancestors to map:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-12_04_00-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18421\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-12_04_00-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"693\" height=\"618\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-12_04_00-Window.png 693w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-12_04_00-Window-300x268.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 693px) 100vw, 693px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Joan and Wendy have a different possibility at the 5th cousin level, but I will stick with this option. First, I&#8217;ll check on William, son of William Newcombe. I see this in the 1851 Census for Devon, England:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-12_11_12-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18422\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-12_11_12-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"252\" height=\"362\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-12_11_12-Window.png 252w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-12_11_12-Window-209x300.png 209w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 252px) 100vw, 252px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>That means that that William and Mary had a pretty big family.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-14_56_13-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18423\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-14_56_13-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"839\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-14_56_13-Window.png 839w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-14_56_13-Window-300x107.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-14_56_13-Window-768x275.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This results in a bit of a mess as Chromosome 2 shows overlap with other families. Something to work out at a later time! Also, I see that other trees have names other than Pring for Mary.<\/p>\n<h2>Wayne on the MacArthur Line<\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-15_36_47-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18425\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-15_36_47-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"732\" height=\"637\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-15_36_47-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png 732w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-15_36_47-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-300x261.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 732px) 100vw, 732px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The tree looks legit. We have come across Euphemia or Effie before.<\/p>\n<p>Wayne fills in a bit of a gap at the end of Chromosome 4 for Joan:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-15_41_24-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18426\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-15_41_24-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"936\" height=\"341\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-15_41_24-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png 936w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-15_41_24-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan-300x109.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-15_41_24-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan-768x280.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Wayne also matches Joan on Chromosome 18 but only in areas already covered by other matches.<\/p>\n<h2>Devin on the Dicks Line<\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-15_48_26-.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18427\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-15_48_26-.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"732\" height=\"733\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-15_48_26-.png 732w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-15_48_26--300x300.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-15_48_26--150x150.png 150w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-15_48_26--100x100.png 100w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 732px) 100vw, 732px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h2>Bonnie on the MacArthur Line<\/h2>\n<p>I have had good luck painting in the MacArthur line:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-15_48_26-1-1.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18428\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-15_48_26-1-1.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"732\" height=\"733\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-15_48_26-1-1.png 732w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-15_48_26-1-1-300x300.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-15_48_26-1-1-150x150.png 150w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-15_48_26-1-1-100x100.png 100w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 732px) 100vw, 732px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Bonnie gets the paternal side up to 32% painted:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-16_12_08-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18429\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-16_12_08-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"785\" height=\"235\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-16_12_08-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png 785w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-16_12_08-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan-300x90.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-16_12_08-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan-768x230.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>She fills in some missing area on the paternal side of Joan&#8217;s Chromosome 12.<\/p>\n<h2>Richard on Joan&#8217;s Daly Line<\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-16_16_25-.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18430\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-16_16_25-.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"725\" height=\"743\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-16_16_25-.png 725w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-16_16_25--293x300.png 293w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 725px) 100vw, 725px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Joan doesn&#8217;t have many matches on her Daly side:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-16_19_17-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18431\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-16_19_17-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1413\" height=\"249\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-16_19_17-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png 1413w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-16_19_17-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan-300x53.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-16_19_17-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan-1024x180.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-22-16_19_17-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan-768x135.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Richard is a good find. That brings Joan up to 44% painted on her maternal side and 38% overall. For some reason, the Theory above shows &#8216;deleted profile&#8217;. Here is Richard&#8217;s tree on his maternal side:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-08_06_37-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18433\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-08_06_37-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"893\" height=\"509\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-08_06_37-Window.png 893w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-08_06_37-Window-300x171.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-08_06_37-Window-768x438.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Richard would be a good candidate for an X Chromosome match to Joan based on their genealogy. However, MyHeritage does not show X Chromosome matches.<\/p>\n<h2>Loretta with a Single Ellis Common Ancestor<\/h2>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-19_09_14-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18436\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-19_09_14-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"860\" height=\"610\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-19_09_14-Window.png 860w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-19_09_14-Window-300x213.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-19_09_14-Window-768x545.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>According to MyHeritage, Joan and Loretta are 1\/2 third cousins once removed. That means that they only have one common ancestor who is James Henry Ellis born in 1801. That also means that the DNA that these two share comes from James Ellis.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-19_16_16-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18437\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-19_16_16-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"715\" height=\"339\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-19_16_16-Window.png 715w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-19_16_16-Window-300x142.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 715px) 100vw, 715px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Loretta&#8217;s matches with Joan are on Chromosomes 9 and 11. On Chromosome 9, Loretta fills in some blank space. On Chromosome 11, Loretta&#8217;s matches indicates that Marianne&#8217;s and Melissa&#8217;s DNA are from the Ellis and not the Gorrill side.<\/p>\n<h2>Janet on the Dicks Line<\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-19_31_56-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18438\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-19_31_56-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"688\" height=\"714\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-19_31_56-Window.png 688w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-19_31_56-Window-289x300.png 289w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 688px) 100vw, 688px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Janet fills in a small blank in the maternal copy of Chromosome 15:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-19_36_18-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18439\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-19_36_18-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"553\" height=\"574\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-19_36_18-Window.png 553w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-19_36_18-Window-289x300.png 289w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 553px) 100vw, 553px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h2>Shantall and Hopgood\/Watson Common Ancestors<\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-19_47_17-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18440\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-19_47_17-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"623\" height=\"634\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-19_47_17-Window.png 623w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-19_47_17-Window-295x300.png 295w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 623px) 100vw, 623px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Shantall provides the first painted in segment for Joan on her Chromosome 22:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-19_50_05-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18441\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-19_50_05-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"651\" height=\"38\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-19_50_05-Window.png 651w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-19_50_05-Window-300x18.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 651px) 100vw, 651px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h2>Sharon on the Rayner\/Simmons Line<\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_03_16-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18442\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_03_16-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"616\" height=\"466\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_03_16-Window.png 616w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_03_16-Window-300x227.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 616px) 100vw, 616px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Sharon is Joan&#8217;s first paternal side match on Chromosome 10:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_07_48-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18444\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_07_48-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"724\" height=\"238\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_07_48-Window.png 724w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_07_48-Window-300x99.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 724px) 100vw, 724px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This match tips the scales and gets Joan up one percent to 33% painted paternally and 39% overall.<\/p>\n<h2>Clarice on the Rheihold\/Hurst Line<\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_17_40-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18445\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_17_40-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"693\" height=\"609\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_17_40-Window.png 693w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_17_40-Window-300x264.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 693px) 100vw, 693px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Clarice is the first maternal side identified match for Joan on Chromosome 16:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_22_17-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18446\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_22_17-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"576\" height=\"155\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_22_17-Window.png 576w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_22_17-Window-300x81.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 576px) 100vw, 576px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h2>A Small Rayner\/Hopgood Match with Brian<\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_29_04-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18447\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_29_04-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"708\" height=\"618\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_29_04-Window.png 708w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_29_04-Window-300x262.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 708px) 100vw, 708px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This small match was the first for Rayner\/Hopgood and shows at the very beginning of Chromosome 9:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_35_13-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18448\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_35_13-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"710\" height=\"224\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_35_13-Window.png 710w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_35_13-Window-300x95.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 710px) 100vw, 710px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h2>Josh on the Hopgood Line<\/h2>\n<p>Josh is the last Theory of Relativity at MyHeritage that Joan has right now:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_43_42-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18449\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_43_42-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"695\" height=\"717\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_43_42-Window.png 695w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_43_42-Window-291x300.png 291w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 695px) 100vw, 695px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The Theory has a few deleted profiles, but the genealogy seems alright:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_45_16-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18450\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_45_16-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"763\" height=\"787\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_45_16-Window.png 763w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_45_16-Window-291x300.png 291w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 706px) 89vw, (max-width: 767px) 82vw, 740px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Josh is the first painted Hopgood\/Yeo segment:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_49_21-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18451\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_49_21-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"984\" height=\"236\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_49_21-Window.png 984w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_49_21-Window-300x72.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-20_49_21-Window-768x184.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h2>Summary and Conclusions<\/h2>\n<p>Here is the new map for Joan:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-21_06_53-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-18453\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-21_06_53-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"979\" height=\"910\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-21_06_53-Window.png 979w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-21_06_53-Window-300x279.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/2021-09-23-21_06_53-Window-768x714.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>I was pleased overall with looking at the Theories at MyHeritage. They added many new segments<\/li>\n<li>I didn&#8217;t add some segments as there were multiple close common ancestors<\/li>\n<li>There were some theories especially on the MacArthur line where the genealogy was messed up, so I didn&#8217;t try to fix the genealogy.<\/li>\n<li>I was hoping to get Joan up to 40% painted. I think I can do that by working out the MacArthur genealogy or looking at Gedmatch for DNA matches. This can be handled in a subsequent Blog.<\/li>\n<li>The interrelatedness of some of Joan&#8217;s ancestors presents some challenges when looking at the DNA.<\/li>\n<li>I enjoy making these maps, but it can be a time-consuming exercise.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I learned something interesting recently. My wife&#8217;s mother&#8217;s DNA seems more endogamous than my wife&#8217;s father&#8217;s. Endogamous means that your ancestors tended to intermarry with each other&#8217;s cousins. One way to check this is through AncestryDNA. Here are some numbers for Joan: Divide Joan&#8217;s close matches by all her matches and multiply by 100 to &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2021\/09\/24\/adding-to-my-mother-in-law-ellis-dna-map\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Adding to My Mother-in-Law Ellis&#8217; DNA Map&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[46,41,13,52],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-18394","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-dna-painter","category-ellis","category-newfoundland","category-theories-of-relativity"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18394","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=18394"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18394\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":18454,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18394\/revisions\/18454"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=18394"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=18394"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=18394"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}