{"id":17732,"date":"2021-06-02T12:36:26","date_gmt":"2021-06-02T12:36:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/?p=17732"},"modified":"2021-09-18T23:19:55","modified_gmt":"2021-09-18T23:19:55","slug":"updating-my-wifes-mothers-ellis-dna","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2021\/06\/02\/updating-my-wifes-mothers-ellis-dna\/","title":{"rendered":"Updating My Wife&#8217;s Mother&#8217;s Ellis DNA"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I manage my wife&#8217;s mother&#8217;s DNA kit and my wife&#8217;s mother&#8217;s sister&#8217;s DNA kit. Their names are Joan and Elaine. I was looking at Elaine&#8217;s DNA this morning.<\/p>\n<h2>Ellis Line Match with Joseph<\/h2>\n<p>The match I found for Elaine this morning was with Joseph. He is a good match because he is on Gedmatch and Ancestry. He also has trees on Ancestry and Gedmatch. Using DNA Painter, I added Joseph&#8217;s match to Elaines DNA Map:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-19_38_13-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17733\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-19_38_13-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"828\" height=\"708\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-19_38_13-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png 828w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-19_38_13-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine-300x257.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-19_38_13-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine-768x657.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Joseph matches Elaine on Chromosomes 7 and 14. The match appears to go back to 1775. Here is how Elaine and Joseph connect:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-19_40_58-Relationship-to-J.L..png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17734\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-19_40_58-Relationship-to-J.L..png\" alt=\"\" width=\"595\" height=\"814\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-19_40_58-Relationship-to-J.L..png 595w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-19_40_58-Relationship-to-J.L.-219x300.png 219w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 595px) 100vw, 595px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Elaine and Joseph show as 4th cousins going back to 1775. Ancestry also has this highly unlikely scenario:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-19_45_22-AncestryDNA\u00ae-Matches-Compare.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17736\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-19_45_22-AncestryDNA\u00ae-Matches-Compare.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"672\" height=\"364\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-19_45_22-AncestryDNA\u00ae-Matches-Compare.png 672w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-19_45_22-AncestryDNA\u00ae-Matches-Compare-300x163.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 672px) 100vw, 672px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Joseph has a smaller match with my mother-in-law Joan. They only match on Chromosome 7. I&#8217;ll add that match in:<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-19_58_50-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17738\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-19_58_50-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1058\" height=\"209\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-19_58_50-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png 1058w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-19_58_50-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan-300x59.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-19_58_50-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan-1024x202.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-19_58_50-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan-768x152.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here Joseph in orange is bumping into Debbie in green. That could mean that I have some of the genealogy wrong. I can&#8217;t find the Debbie&#8217;s DNA match anymore, so that doesn&#8217;t help.<\/p>\n<p>Elaine&#8217;s DNA Map makes more sense:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-20_13_37-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17739\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-20_13_37-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"974\" height=\"193\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-20_13_37-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png 974w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-20_13_37-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine-300x59.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-20_13_37-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine-768x152.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here we see the split between Rayner and Hopgood:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-20_15_43-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17740\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-20_15_43-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1041\" height=\"368\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-20_15_43-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_.png 1041w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-20_15_43-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_-300x106.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-20_15_43-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_-1024x362.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-20_15_43-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_-768x271.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Elaine&#8217;s great-grandfather is Abraham Rayner and her great-grandmother is Henrietta Hopgood.<\/p>\n<h2>A Rhynold Match with Stuart at MyHeritage<\/h2>\n<p>MyHeritage shows this Theory of Relativity between Joan and Stuart:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-20_34_02-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17741\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-20_34_02-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"775\" height=\"678\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-20_34_02-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png 775w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-20_34_02-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-300x262.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-20_34_02-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-768x672.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Rhynold is on Joan&#8217;s maternal side. Here is what DNA Painter has to say:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-20_37_49-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17742\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-20_37_49-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"615\" height=\"214\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-20_37_49-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png 615w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-20_37_49-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan-300x104.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 615px) 100vw, 615px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>They are finding DNA overlap with other ancestors, so is this really Rhynold DNA? I&#8217;m curious, so I&#8217;ll try painting him in.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-07_20_16-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17747\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-07_20_16-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"729\" height=\"473\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-07_20_16-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png 729w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-07_20_16-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan-300x195.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 729px) 100vw, 729px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>There is no overlap on Chromosomes 7 and 20 and only a minimal overlap on Chromosome 1, so I think that we have the right common ancestors.<\/p>\n<p>I had already painted Stuart onto Elaines Chromosomes 7, 9 and 20. Elaine doesn&#8217;t match Stuart on Chromosome 1, because she has larger Upshall matches on that Chromosome:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-07_28_20-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17748\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-07_28_20-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"439\" height=\"191\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-07_28_20-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png 439w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-07_28_20-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine-300x131.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 439px) 100vw, 439px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Rynault is on the Daley side:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-07_29_19-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17749\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-07_29_19-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"993\" height=\"427\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-07_29_19-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_.png 993w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-07_29_19-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_-300x129.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-07_29_19-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_-768x330.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h2>James Robert Theory of Relativity: Ellis\/MacArthur<\/h2>\n<p>Joan and James Robert show as third cousins:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-20_53_42-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17743\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-20_53_42-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"768\" height=\"576\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-20_53_42-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png 768w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-20_53_42-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-300x225.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ll paint James Robert in to see if that makes sense. Here is how I painted James Robert in to Joan&#8217;s map:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-21_01_58-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17744\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-21_01_58-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1407\" height=\"304\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-21_01_58-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png 1407w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-21_01_58-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan-300x65.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-21_01_58-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan-1024x221.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-21_01_58-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan-768x166.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>James Robert is the orange match on Chromosomes 1, 2, and 5. The reason is that there are two entries for James Ellis born 1801 is that James had two wives. His first wife was Jane Ramsay. However, Joan descends from the second wife who was Marion MacArthur. In some cases, the DNA match is just with James Ellis, in other cases, it is with James and his wife Marion MacArthur.<\/p>\n<p>Next, I&#8217;ll paint James Robert onto Elaine&#8217;s map. She already has an Ellis\/MacArthur entry:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-21_13_55-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17745\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-21_13_55-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1088\" height=\"514\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-21_13_55-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png 1088w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-21_13_55-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine-300x142.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-21_13_55-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine-1024x484.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-30-21_13_55-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine-768x363.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>For some reason, there was not any overlap between Elaine&#8217;s DNA matches with James Robert and Robert who I show as also descending from James Ellis and Marion MacArthur.<\/p>\n<h2>Painting MacArthur\/MacDougall<\/h2>\n<p>MG has a double Theory of Relativity with Elaine. However, MacArthur\/MacDougall is the closer relationship:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-07_55_16-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17750\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-07_55_16-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"768\" height=\"687\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-07_55_16-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png 768w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-07_55_16-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-300x268.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The other common ancestor is with James Yeo, but is a half 5th cousin relationship. Let&#8217;s paint Elaine&#8217;s DNA match with MG to see what happens. When I go to paint MG, I get this message:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-07_59_54-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17751\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-07_59_54-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"208\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-07_59_54-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png 800w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-07_59_54-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine-300x78.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-07_59_54-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine-768x200.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>That actually makes sense because Marion would be a daughter or Malcolm MacArthur:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-08_06_23-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17752\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-08_06_23-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"739\" height=\"922\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-08_06_23-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png 739w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-08_06_23-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine-240x300.png 240w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 739px) 100vw, 739px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>MacArthur\/MacDougall is painted in in maroon in Chromosomes 4, 17, 18 and 19. This gets Elaine up to 20% painted on her paternal side. Chromosome 19 is where the small overalp occurs:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-08_10_44-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17753\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-08_10_44-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"518\" height=\"196\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-08_10_44-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png 518w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-08_10_44-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine-300x114.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 518px) 100vw, 518px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I also reorganized the key so it makes more sense.\u00a0 MacArthur is on the Ellis side.<\/p>\n<p>For Joan, I already had a listing for MacArthur\/MacDougall:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-08_16_52-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17754\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-08_16_52-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"565\" height=\"268\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-08_16_52-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png 565w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-08_16_52-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan-300x142.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 565px) 100vw, 565px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Elaine&#8217;s match with Barry and MG overlap on Chromosome 4. I assume that would be considered triangulation:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-08_19_58-Chromosome-Browser-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17755\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-08_19_58-Chromosome-Browser-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"827\" height=\"872\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-08_19_58-Chromosome-Browser-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png 827w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-08_19_58-Chromosome-Browser-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-285x300.png 285w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-08_19_58-Chromosome-Browser-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-768x810.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>MyHeritage shows triangulation by circled segments.<\/p>\n<h2>Edna on the Dicks Line<\/h2>\n<p>Edna fits in well with my Dicks DNA Project:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-08_38_58-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17756\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-08_38_58-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"622\" height=\"550\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-08_38_58-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png 622w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-08_38_58-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-300x265.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 622px) 100vw, 622px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Edna also has this Theory of Relativity:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-08_50_08-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17757\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-08_50_08-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"624\" height=\"542\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-08_50_08-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png 624w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-08_50_08-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-300x261.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 624px) 100vw, 624px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not as sure that this is right. Here is the DNA tree I have:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-08_51_38-Dicks-Relationships-Excel.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17758\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-08_51_38-Dicks-Relationships-Excel.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1315\" height=\"765\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-08_51_38-Dicks-Relationships-Excel.png 1315w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-08_51_38-Dicks-Relationships-Excel-300x175.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-08_51_38-Dicks-Relationships-Excel-1024x596.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-08_51_38-Dicks-Relationships-Excel-768x447.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I added Edna in under the left circle. HereI have painted Edna on to Joan&#8217;s DNA Map:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_00_56-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17759\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_00_56-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"629\" height=\"853\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_00_56-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png 629w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_00_56-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan-221x300.png 221w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 629px) 100vw, 629px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Edna has good overlap with other Christopher Dicks descendants. I think that Henry Dicks is from a more distant line. There is also overlap on Chromosome 21:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_16_36-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17760\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_16_36-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"532\" height=\"190\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_16_36-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png 532w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_16_36-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan-300x107.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 532px) 100vw, 532px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Edna overaps with Joan&#8217;s Aunt Esther. Esther overlaps with a more recent Dicks Line. So while Edna adds no new Dicks DNA to Joan&#8217;s map, this exercise places Edna within the DNA framework I have for Christopher Dicks born 1784 and his wife Margaret.<\/p>\n<p>For some reason, I could not find Edna on Elaine&#8217;s MyHeritage match list.<\/p>\n<h2>Nat&#8217;s Theory on the Ellis Side<\/h2>\n<p>Nat has three Theories of Relativity with Elaine at MyHeritage. Here is the closest:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_26_29-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17761\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_26_29-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"616\" height=\"553\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_26_29-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png 616w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_26_29-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-300x269.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 616px) 100vw, 616px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Theory two is similar to Theory one but involves a 4th cousin once removed. Theory three is more distant on the MacDougall side.<\/p>\n<p>Here we have a problem on Chromosome 6:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_34_00-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17763\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_34_00-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1019\" height=\"298\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_34_00-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png 1019w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_34_00-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine-300x88.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_34_00-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine-768x225.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Hopgood (yellow) and Ellis (blue) should not be sharing the same space on the Paternal side of Chromosome 6. That means that there is a problem with the genealogy or some mixing of lines. I see that Jo-Ann has three Theories of Relativity. Here is Theory Three:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_37_32-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17764\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_37_32-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"616\" height=\"639\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_37_32-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png 616w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_37_32-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-289x300.png 289w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 616px) 100vw, 616px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Turns out that Jo-Ann&#8217;s Chromosome 6 match with Elaine is most likely on the Ellis\/Tawton side. I can fix this in DNA Painter:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_39_46-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17765\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_39_46-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"632\" height=\"697\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_39_46-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png 632w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_39_46-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine-272x300.png 272w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 632px) 100vw, 632px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Unfortunatley, that changed all of Jo-Ann&#8217;s matches. Here is the screen I should have used:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_39_46-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine-1.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17766\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_39_46-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine-1.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"632\" height=\"697\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_39_46-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine-1.png 632w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_39_46-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine-1-272x300.png 272w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 632px) 100vw, 632px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This is what I had wanted:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_45_27-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17767\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_45_27-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"772\" height=\"293\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_45_27-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png 772w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_45_27-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine-300x114.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_45_27-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine-768x291.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>After checking chromosomes, I found another issue:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_52_15-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17768\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_52_15-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1003\" height=\"210\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_52_15-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png 1003w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_52_15-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine-300x63.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_52_15-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine-768x161.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Jo-ann is bumping into Robert on Chromosome 4. I&#8217;m in deep on this one. I&#8217;ll assume that Robert has no Hopgood ancestry and change this segment also.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_54_41-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17769\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_54_41-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"757\" height=\"134\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_54_41-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png 757w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-09_54_41-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine-300x53.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 706px) 89vw, (max-width: 767px) 82vw, 740px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I hope that Jo-ann doesn&#8217;t mind me messing around with her DNA!<\/p>\n<p>Next, I paint Nat onto Joan&#8217;s map:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-10_07_17-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17770\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-10_07_17-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"882\" height=\"193\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-10_07_17-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png 882w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-10_07_17-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan-300x66.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-10_07_17-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan-768x168.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Nat and Joan only match on Chromosome 6. Here I need to switch Jo-ann from Hopgood to Ellis like I did above:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-10_09_42-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17771\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-10_09_42-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"898\" height=\"185\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-10_09_42-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan.png 898w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-10_09_42-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan-300x62.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-10_09_42-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joan-768x158.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>That looks better. The three yellow segments now match up.<\/p>\n<h2>AutoClusters at Gedmatch<\/h2>\n<p>Here are Joan&#8217;s AutoClusters at Gedmatch between 35 and 250 cM:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-12_24_41-Auto-Cluster-Shared-matches-Co-occurrence.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17772\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-12_24_41-Auto-Cluster-Shared-matches-Co-occurrence.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"830\" height=\"795\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-12_24_41-Auto-Cluster-Shared-matches-Co-occurrence.png 830w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-12_24_41-Auto-Cluster-Shared-matches-Co-occurrence-300x287.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-12_24_41-Auto-Cluster-Shared-matches-Co-occurrence-768x736.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This is how I see Joan&#8217;s matches shaking out. What about the clusters inbetween the two connected sets of clusters? Green Cluster 8 has someone with Guysborough, Nova Scotia ancestry. That is likely on Joan&#8217;s Daley side, but I was not able to match up the genealogy.<\/p>\n<h3>Elaine&#8217;s AutoClusters<\/h3>\n<p>Elaine, as may be expected has a similar profile to her sister Joan between the levels of 35 and 250 cM.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-19_45_06-Auto-Cluster-Shared-matches-Co-occurrence.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17774\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-19_45_06-Auto-Cluster-Shared-matches-Co-occurrence.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"692\" height=\"663\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-19_45_06-Auto-Cluster-Shared-matches-Co-occurrence.png 692w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-19_45_06-Auto-Cluster-Shared-matches-Co-occurrence-300x287.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 692px) 100vw, 692px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The configuration is inverted for Elaine. Her Newfoundland cluster group is in the top left and her PEI cluster group is in the bottom right. Elaine has four clusters in the middle compared to Joan&#8217;s three. My guess is that all or most of these clusters could be on the Daley side.<\/p>\n<p>Barry is in blue Cluster 9. He appears to have PEI ancestry.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-19_58_24-.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17775\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-19_58_24-.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"681\" height=\"928\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-19_58_24-.png 681w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/2021-05-31-19_58_24--220x300.png 220w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 681px) 100vw, 681px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This shows Barry&#8217;s connection to Joan but the connection to Elaine would be the same.<\/p>\n<p>Tammy is in brown Cluster 10. She has Rhynold in her tree. Tammy&#8217;s tree goes back a bit further than what I have.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/2021-05-31-20_14_16-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17776\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/2021-05-31-20_14_16-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1146\" height=\"416\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/2021-05-31-20_14_16-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_.png 1146w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/2021-05-31-20_14_16-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_-300x109.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/2021-05-31-20_14_16-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_-1024x372.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/2021-05-31-20_14_16-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_-768x279.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Tammy&#8217;s maternal side goes back to Johann Rheinhold:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/2021-05-31-20_16_10-Johann-Caspar-Rheinhold-Facts.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17777\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/2021-05-31-20_16_10-Johann-Caspar-Rheinhold-Facts.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"299\" height=\"813\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/2021-05-31-20_16_10-Johann-Caspar-Rheinhold-Facts.png 299w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/2021-05-31-20_16_10-Johann-Caspar-Rheinhold-Facts-110x300.png 110w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 299px) 100vw, 299px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>He apparently married Ann Lowry and had Tammy&#8217;s ancestor John Gleason Rhynold and Frederick born 1792 who was my wife&#8217;s ancestor. Tammy has Johann Capar Rheinhold born in Frankfurt and marrying in Cornwall, then settling in Guysborough, Nova Scotia.<\/p>\n<p>I can add this couple to my wife&#8217;s family tree. I&#8217;ll add Tammy to DNA Painter:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/2021-05-31-20_36_36-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17778\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/2021-05-31-20_36_36-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1084\" height=\"386\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/2021-05-31-20_36_36-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine.png 1084w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/2021-05-31-20_36_36-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine-300x107.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/2021-05-31-20_36_36-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine-1024x365.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/2021-05-31-20_36_36-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Elaine-768x273.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Tammy is right below Stuart mentioned earlier in the Blog. Actually, the four in\u00a0 Cluster 10 are probably all closely related.<\/p>\n<p>Cluster 11 has Susan. She has PEI MacArthur ancestry.<\/p>\n<h2>Summary and Conclusions<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>I started updating the four grandparents of my mother-in-law. They are Ellis and Rayner from PEI. Also Upshall from Newfoundland and Daley from Nova Scotia.<\/li>\n<li>One easy way to update DNA matches is through MyHeritage&#8217;s Theories of Relativity. I like to use DNA Painter to map out those DNA matches.<\/li>\n<li>I also used Gedmatch AutoClusters. In this case, it was easy to pick out the large amount of Newfoundland matches as well as the PEI matches. There are not many Daley side matches.<\/li>\n<li>It was possible to connect many of the Ancestry uploaded Gedmatches to their Ancestry profiles to check on family trees.<\/li>\n<li>I found a new connection to Germany through the Rheinhold line connected with the Ellis&#8217; Dale side. Johann Caspar Rheinhold apparently was born in the area of Frankfort, married in England and moved to Guysborough, Nova Scotia. I have not tried to confirm the genealogy, but it is in several trees and the match by DNA supports or confirms those trees. This surname was later changed to Rhynold and Rynault<\/li>\n<li>In using DNA Painter, it is possible to sort out the DNA matches where there is more than one possible pair of common ancestors that the DNA may have come from.<\/li>\n<li>DNA Painter also points out that the DNA matches are not evenly distributed by the four grandparents. There were very few matches shown on the Daley side at the match levels chosen. Most matches were on the Upshall side.<\/li>\n<li>I didn&#8217;t break down the clusters between Ellis and Rayner, but I think that there are more Ellis matches than Rayner matches as there were many large Ellis families.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I manage my wife&#8217;s mother&#8217;s DNA kit and my wife&#8217;s mother&#8217;s sister&#8217;s DNA kit. Their names are Joan and Elaine. I was looking at Elaine&#8217;s DNA this morning. Ellis Line Match with Joseph The match I found for Elaine this morning was with Joseph. He is a good match because he is on Gedmatch and &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2021\/06\/02\/updating-my-wifes-mothers-ellis-dna\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Updating My Wife&#8217;s Mother&#8217;s Ellis DNA&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[49,11,1,41],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-17732","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-autocluster","category-chromosome-mapping","category-heading","category-ellis"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/17732","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=17732"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/17732\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":18365,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/17732\/revisions\/18365"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=17732"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=17732"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=17732"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}