{"id":17151,"date":"2021-04-17T16:02:54","date_gmt":"2021-04-17T16:02:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/?p=17151"},"modified":"2021-04-29T17:47:54","modified_gmt":"2021-04-29T17:47:54","slug":"my-frazer-dna-relative-suzzanne","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2021\/04\/17\/my-frazer-dna-relative-suzzanne\/","title":{"rendered":"My Frazer DNA Relative Suzzanne"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I was recently informed by another Frazer relative, that she had a new match at AncestryDNA named Suzzanne. I checked and saw that AncestryDNA had matched Suzzanne to me via ThruLines:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-06_47_45-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17152\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-06_47_45-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"597\" height=\"965\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-06_47_45-Window.png 597w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-06_47_45-Window-186x300.png 186w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 597px) 100vw, 597px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>We show as 6th cousins which is pretty remote. Jane who mentioned Suzzanne descends from Richard P L Frazer above so they would be in the third cousin range. Here is Jane on my ThruLines:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-06_52_15-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17153\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-06_52_15-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"931\" height=\"562\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-06_52_15-Window.png 931w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-06_52_15-Window-300x181.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-06_52_15-Window-768x464.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>However, something seems off as there shouldn&#8217;t be two Archibalds as son of Archibald. When I expand the tree, I see that Jane and Suzzanne should be 2nd cousins once removed:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-06_54_25-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17154\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-06_54_25-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"651\" height=\"847\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-06_54_25-Window.png 651w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-06_54_25-Window-231x300.png 231w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 651px) 100vw, 651px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The DNA match amounts of 15 and 11 cM are how much these two match me. They must match each other by quite a bit more. From Jane&#8217;s view, the relationship looks better:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-06_58_26-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17155\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-06_58_26-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"602\" height=\"493\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-06_58_26-Window.png 602w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-06_58_26-Window-300x246.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 602px) 100vw, 602px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I have one shared DNA match with Suzzanne at AncestryDNA:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-09_12_53-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17158\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-09_12_53-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1456\" height=\"674\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-09_12_53-Window.png 1456w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-09_12_53-Window-300x139.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-09_12_53-Window-1024x474.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-09_12_53-Window-768x356.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>That match is with Rebecca who is my 3rd cousin. This is my own DNA match chart as Rebecca does not show on ThruLines. Also, based on my own chart, I should be closer than a 6th cousin to Suzzanne. When I add in Suzzanne to my chart, I see we are actually 5th cousins:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-09_24_13-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17159\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-09_24_13-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1110\" height=\"560\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-09_24_13-Window.png 1110w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-09_24_13-Window-300x151.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-09_24_13-Window-1024x517.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-09_24_13-Window-768x387.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>In both our trees we have Frazers who married Frazers. Also we don&#8217;t know the wife of Richard Frazer who was born in 1777. She may be related to us in more than one way. This was all a bit too complicated for AncestryDNA apparently.<\/p>\n<h3>More on Suzzanne&#8217;s Frazer Ancestry<\/h3>\n<p>Here is what I have on my website:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-17-11_30_18-Descendants-of-Archibald-Frazer.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17237\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-17-11_30_18-Descendants-of-Archibald-Frazer.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"872\" height=\"897\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-17-11_30_18-Descendants-of-Archibald-Frazer.png 872w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-17-11_30_18-Descendants-of-Archibald-Frazer-292x300.png 292w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-17-11_30_18-Descendants-of-Archibald-Frazer-768x790.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Suzzanne descends from Anne. Anne apparently went with her father to Scotland. It looks like Anne went by Fannie in 1891:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-17-11_39_31-Anne-Frazer-Hints.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17238\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-17-11_39_31-Anne-Frazer-Hints.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"391\" height=\"796\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-17-11_39_31-Anne-Frazer-Hints.png 391w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-17-11_39_31-Anne-Frazer-Hints-147x300.png 147w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 391px) 100vw, 391px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h3>Suzzanne and Shared Matches at AncestryDNA<\/h3>\n<p>I mentioned above that Suzzanne and I have a shared match with Rebecca. Rebecca and I are third cousins:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-17-10_24_40-Archibald-Line-Relationships-Excel.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17234\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-17-10_24_40-Archibald-Line-Relationships-Excel.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"425\" height=\"406\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-17-10_24_40-Archibald-Line-Relationships-Excel.png 425w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-17-10_24_40-Archibald-Line-Relationships-Excel-300x287.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 425px) 100vw, 425px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I checked my four siblings who I have tested at AncestryDNA and they do not have a match to Suzzanne. This is not unusual for 5th cousins.<\/p>\n<h4>Suzzanne and Jane&#8217;s Shared Matches<\/h4>\n<p>These two have a lot of shared DNA matches. One that I am interested in is Gary. Gary is Jane&#8217;s third cousin:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-17-11_13_31-Relationship-to-Gary-Frazer.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17236\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-17-11_13_31-Relationship-to-Gary-Frazer.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"760\" height=\"846\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-17-11_13_31-Relationship-to-Gary-Frazer.png 760w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-17-11_13_31-Relationship-to-Gary-Frazer-270x300.png 270w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 706px) 89vw, (max-width: 767px) 82vw, 740px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>AncestryDNA suggests evaluating Gary&#8217;s tree. I want to devote a later Blog to Gary.<\/p>\n<h2>Suzzanne at MyHeritage<\/h2>\n<p>I see that recently Suzzanne has also showed up as a DNA match to me at MyHeritage. That is good because that will give more detail as to which Chromosome we match on.<\/p>\n<p>We have a small match on Chromosome 14, but mostly math on Chromosome 17:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-09_32_24-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17160\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-09_32_24-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"507\" height=\"134\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-09_32_24-Window.png 507w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-09_32_24-Window-300x79.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 507px) 100vw, 507px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>That would most likely be the DNA that came down to both of us through Richard Frazer born around 1777 or his unknown wife. I already have a lot of my DNA mapped by DNAPainter. Here is my Chromosome 17:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-09_37_53-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17161\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-09_37_53-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"749\" height=\"96\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-09_37_53-Window.png 749w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-09_37_53-Window-300x38.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 706px) 89vw, (max-width: 767px) 82vw, 740px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The area where I match Emily in the middle is where I also math Suzzanne. According to MyHeritage, Suzzanne, Emily and I triangulate:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-09_40_11-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17162\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-09_40_11-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"476\" height=\"237\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-09_40_11-Window.png 476w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-09_40_11-Window-300x149.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 476px) 100vw, 476px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>That means that this segment of DNA points to a common ancestor. We already identified that common ancestor as either Richard Frazer born about 1777 or his unknown wife. I had previously mapped my match with Emily to our common ancestors. They are my 2nd great-grandparents George William Frazer and Margaret McMaster. I now know that this match is on my Frazer side, going back to the late 1700&#8217;s.<\/p>\n<p>Here I have painted Suzzanne&#8217;s match to my DNA Map:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-10_01_07-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17164\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-10_01_07-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"793\" height=\"178\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-10_01_07-Window.png 793w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-10_01_07-Window-300x67.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-10_01_07-Window-768x172.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Notice that Suzzanne&#8217;s match overlaps with Emily&#8217;s. That means that my match with Emily is actually an older match and I can change her match from maroon to red to represent Richard Frazer&#8217;s (or his wife&#8217;s) DNA.<\/p>\n<h2>Suzzanne and My Cousin Paul<\/h2>\n<p>I have my 2nd cousin Paul&#8217;s DNA at MyHeritage and Suzzanne matches him also:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-10_15_53-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17165\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-10_15_53-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"581\" height=\"136\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-10_15_53-Window.png 581w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-10_15_53-Window-300x70.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 581px) 100vw, 581px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The match on Chromosome 9 is under that threshold that DNAPainter uses, but the one at Chromosome 12 is not.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-10_19_33-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17166\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-10_19_33-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"834\" height=\"282\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-10_19_33-Window.png 834w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-10_19_33-Window-300x101.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-10_19_33-Window-768x260.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here, Paul has a lot going on on his paternal DNA side. We see Emily again. This is the first yellow mapped DNA. This will represent either Richard Frazer or his wife.<\/p>\n<h3>Suzzanne and Paul Triangulate with Lorraine<\/h3>\n<p>This is potentially important as this DNA points to a common ancestor.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-10_23_12-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17167\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-10_23_12-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"624\" height=\"747\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-10_23_12-Window.png 624w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-10_23_12-Window-251x300.png 251w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 624px) 100vw, 624px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Next I look at Lorraine&#8217;s tree, to see if there are matches:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-17_16_20-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17170\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-17_16_20-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"840\" height=\"652\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-17_16_20-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png 840w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-17_16_20-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-300x233.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-17_16_20-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-768x596.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This tree does not go back as far as I would like. However, Paul, Lorraine and Cindy triangulate:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-17_19_43-Chromosome-Browser-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17172\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-17_19_43-Chromosome-Browser-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"485\" height=\"294\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-17_19_43-Chromosome-Browser-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png 485w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-17_19_43-Chromosome-Browser-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-300x182.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 485px) 100vw, 485px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Cindy has a good tree. Her paternal tree has some Irish lines:<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-17_24_44-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17173\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-17_24_44-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1245\" height=\"715\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-17_24_44-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png 1245w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-17_24_44-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-300x172.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-17_24_44-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-1024x588.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-17_24_44-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-768x441.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I see the Tighe name come up. This name has come up before in DNA matches. Perhaps Richard Frazer married a Tighe?<\/p>\n<p>Here is another match that is closer to Suzanne:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-17_38_25-Chromosome-Browser-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17175\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-17_38_25-Chromosome-Browser-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"827\" height=\"273\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-17_38_25-Chromosome-Browser-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png 827w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-17_38_25-Chromosome-Browser-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-300x99.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-17_38_25-Chromosome-Browser-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-768x254.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here, Paul, Suzanne and Douglas triangulate on Chromosome 12. Also Douglas shows a McMaster in his tree:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-17_40_35-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17176\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-17_40_35-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"962\" height=\"380\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-17_40_35-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png 962w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-17_40_35-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-300x119.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-17_40_35-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-768x303.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Douglas has that Catherine was from County Sligo:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-17_42_03-Catherine-McMaster-Rutherford-Web-Site-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-17177\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-17_42_03-Catherine-McMaster-Rutherford-Web-Site-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"504\" height=\"125\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-17_42_03-Catherine-McMaster-Rutherford-Web-Site-MyHeritage.png 504w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/2021-04-13-17_42_03-Catherine-McMaster-Rutherford-Web-Site-MyHeritage-300x74.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 504px) 100vw, 504px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h2>Summary and Conclusions<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Because Suzzanne has tested her DNA at Ancestry and is also at MyHeritage, we have a lot of information about her DNA matches.<\/li>\n<li>From what I can tell, Suzzanne descends from the two brothers: Archibald and Richard Frazer born in the 1770&#8217;s. This is not unusual in Frazer genealogy<\/li>\n<li>I am a 5th cousin to Suzzanne, but we are still a DNA match<\/li>\n<li>Suzzanne&#8217;s Frazer ancestor Annie ended up in Scotland<\/li>\n<li>I looked at some DNA matches from MyHeritage. They may give some hints as to who Richard Frazer&#8217;s wife was.<\/li>\n<li>I was reminded of another common DNA match, Gary, who I would like to write about.<\/li>\n<li>Bottom line is that Suzzanne fits into the Frazer genealogy and DNA matching just as she should.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I was recently informed by another Frazer relative, that she had a new match at AncestryDNA named Suzzanne. I checked and saw that AncestryDNA had matched Suzzanne to me via ThruLines: We show as 6th cousins which is pretty remote. Jane who mentioned Suzzanne descends from Richard P L Frazer above so they would be &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2021\/04\/17\/my-frazer-dna-relative-suzzanne\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;My Frazer DNA Relative Suzzanne&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1,46,6,21],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/17151"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=17151"}],"version-history":[{"count":10,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/17151\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":17473,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/17151\/revisions\/17473"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=17151"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=17151"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=17151"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}