{"id":15568,"date":"2020-10-30T10:18:20","date_gmt":"2020-10-30T10:18:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/?p=15568"},"modified":"2020-10-30T10:18:20","modified_gmt":"2020-10-30T10:18:20","slug":"dna-relative-chris-at-23andme-a-lentz-nicholson-descendant","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2020\/10\/30\/dna-relative-chris-at-23andme-a-lentz-nicholson-descendant\/","title":{"rendered":"DNA Relative Chris at 23andMe &#8211; a Lentz\/Nicholson Descendant?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I wrote to Chris about a year and a half ago because we had a good DNA match at 23andMe. I perhaps confused Chris by mentioning another common relative named Judy as Chris would not have known the last name of Judy. I sent a message recently about being able to see Chris&#8217; DNA results and got a message back that Chris didn&#8217;t know Judy but was curious about her ancestry. I&#8217;m curious as to where we connect also.<\/p>\n<h2>My DNA Connection with Chris<\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-9-2.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-15569\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-9-2.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"909\" height=\"572\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-9-2.png 909w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-9-2-300x189.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-9-2-768x483.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here are the places that Chris and I share DNA. Based on the amount of DNA we share, 23andMe guesses that we are 2nd cousins once removed. 23andMe also put my match with Chris onto their Family Tree:<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-10-2.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-15571\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-10-2.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1001\" height=\"626\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-10-2.png 1001w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-10-2-300x188.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-10-2-768x480.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The Judith who I mentioned is on the left. She descends from William Lentz. By the way that 23andMe has the tree, it seems like Chris should descend from one of William&#8217;s siblings. That is assuming that the tree was created correctly. I know that Judith is my 2nd cousin. 23andMe think that Chris and I are 2nd cousins once removed. That means that he was born a generation after me.<\/p>\n<p>Here are Jacob Lentz and Annie Nicholson:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/jacobgeorge001.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-15583\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/jacobgeorge001.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"870\" height=\"503\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/jacobgeorge001.jpg 870w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/jacobgeorge001-300x173.jpg 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/jacobgeorge001-768x444.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Jacob is wearing a bow tie and Annie is to his right. My grandmother Emma is in front of Annie and my mother is in front of Emma. This is what I have for the other people:<\/p>\n<p>TOP &#8211; Uncle Stanley, grandfather Lentz, Grandmother Lentz<br \/>\nMIDDLE &#8211; Aunt Agnes, Cousin Hazel, Gladys&#8217; Mom<br \/>\nBOTTOM &#8211; Cousin Doris, Rob, Cousin Rob Poole, Muriel, Gladys<\/p>\n<h2>Some Lentz Genealogy<\/h2>\n<p>Since I have looked at a DNA tree, let&#8217;s look at the Lentz familyTree<\/p>\n<p>Judy descends from William. I descend from Emma. That leaves Stanley and Agnes for Chris. I don&#8217;t see a record that Agnes&#8217; son Robert was married or had children. That seems to leave Stanley Lentz.<\/p>\n<h3>Stanley Lentz Born 1894<\/h3>\n<p>These are the children I have for Stanley:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-12-2.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-15573\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-12-2.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"320\" height=\"425\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-12-2.png 320w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-12-2-226x300.png 226w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 320px) 100vw, 320px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I couldn&#8217;t find much information about Hazel Lentz.<\/p>\n<p>This findagrave.com record suggests that Doris may never have married:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-13-3.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-15574\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-13-3.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"482\" height=\"270\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-13-3.png 482w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-13-3-300x168.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 482px) 100vw, 482px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h3>Stanley Lentz<\/h3>\n<p>He had these children:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-2-4.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-15575\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-2-4.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"248\" height=\"240\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>That filled in some more of my Lentz genealogy, but shed no light on how I match Chris.<\/p>\n<h2>William Lentz<\/h2>\n<p>I have that Judith descends from William. Perhaps Chris does also. I&#8217;ll look into some of his children.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-3-4.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-15576\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-3-4.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"229\" height=\"503\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-3-4.png 229w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-3-4-137x300.png 137w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 229px) 100vw, 229px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h3>Margaret Lentz<\/h3>\n<p>Margaret married John Viden. I couldn&#8217;t find a record that they had children.<\/p>\n<h3>Elva Lentz<\/h3>\n<p>I have this husband and children for Elval:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-4-5.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-15577\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-4-5.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"267\" height=\"236\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h3>Bernice Lentz<\/h3>\n<p>In my last Blog, I had that Judy was the daughter of Florence. Now I see I should hae had her as the daughter of Bernice. I see this photo at Ancestry:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-5-5.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-15578\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-5-5.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1056\" height=\"749\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-5-5.png 1056w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-5-5-300x213.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-5-5-1024x726.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-5-5-768x545.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Judy shared the above photo with this caption:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-6-4.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-15579\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-6-4.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"339\" height=\"306\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-6-4.png 339w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-6-4-300x271.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 339px) 100vw, 339px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>My guess is that Judy is Bernice&#8217;s only child.<\/p>\n<p>This family lived in Pitman, NJ:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-8-4.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-15582\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-8-4.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"442\" height=\"806\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-8-4.png 442w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-8-4-165x300.png 165w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 442px) 100vw, 442px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h3>Emma Lentz<\/h3>\n<p>Emma was born a little over a year before my mother:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-7-3.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-15580\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-7-3.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1399\" height=\"198\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-7-3.png 1399w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-7-3-300x42.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-7-3-1024x145.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Image-7-3-768x109.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m sure there were other descendants, but no clear connection to Chris, my DNA Relative at 23andMe. If Chris gets back to me with more family information, I&#8217;m sure I will be able to make a connection.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I wrote to Chris about a year and a half ago because we had a good DNA match at 23andMe. I perhaps confused Chris by mentioning another common relative named Judy as Chris would not have known the last name of Judy. I sent a message recently about being able to see Chris&#8217; DNA results &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2020\/10\/30\/dna-relative-chris-at-23andme-a-lentz-nicholson-descendant\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;DNA Relative Chris at 23andMe &#8211; a Lentz\/Nicholson Descendant?&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1,17,12],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-15568","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-heading","category-lentznicholson","category-rathfelderlentznicholson-dna"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15568","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=15568"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15568\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":15584,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15568\/revisions\/15584"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=15568"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=15568"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=15568"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}