{"id":14146,"date":"2020-03-31T18:59:49","date_gmt":"2020-03-31T18:59:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/?p=14146"},"modified":"2020-03-31T18:59:49","modified_gmt":"2020-03-31T18:59:49","slug":"new-dna-results-for-my-frazer-cousin-susan","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2020\/03\/31\/new-dna-results-for-my-frazer-cousin-susan\/","title":{"rendered":"New DNA Results for My Frazer Cousin Susan"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I recently heard via the Frazer Facebook Page that my cousin Susan had her DNA tested at MyHeritage. That was good news for me as I am interested in DNA &#8211; how it shows where we are related and how we share parts of our common ancestors.<\/p>\n<h2>How Susan Fits In On the Frazer DNA Tree<\/h2>\n<p>I create trees of people who have had their DNA tested. Here is a partial Frazer Tree:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-02-01-03_02_22-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14148\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-02-01-03_02_22-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"798\" height=\"520\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-02-01-03_02_22-Window.png 798w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-02-01-03_02_22-Window-300x195.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-02-01-03_02_22-Window-768x500.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Earlier this year I wrote a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2020\/01\/31\/finding-my-dna-cousin-brenda-at-23andme\/\">Blog about Brenda<\/a>.\u00a0 She, like Susan and Paul, is my second cousin once removed. She tested at 23andMe. Brenda is also Paul&#8217;s first cousin. Susan descends from William Frazer and James Robert Frazer. That section of the Frazer DNA tree is spreading out:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-10_08_38-James-Robert-Frazer-DNA-Tree.xlsx-Excel.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14149\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-10_08_38-James-Robert-Frazer-DNA-Tree.xlsx-Excel.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"546\" height=\"299\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-10_08_38-James-Robert-Frazer-DNA-Tree.xlsx-Excel.png 546w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-10_08_38-James-Robert-Frazer-DNA-Tree.xlsx-Excel-300x164.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 546px) 100vw, 546px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This part of the Frazer tree is interesting to me because I have met many of these people. They would be most familiar with the farm where my great-grandfather James Archibald was raised.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Old-Frazer-House-Color.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14150\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Old-Frazer-House-Color.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"624\" height=\"474\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Old-Frazer-House-Color.jpg 624w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Old-Frazer-House-Color-300x228.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 624px) 100vw, 624px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here is a photo of the family in front of the old family house in Ballindoon. MyHeritage has a new program that colorizes old photos. My great-grandfather James Archibald, Susan&#8217;s grandfather William and another brother Richard were in Massachusetts at the time this photo was taken. Brenda&#8217;s grandfather Hubert is probably the first one in the back row in the photo above. The girl on the right is Susan Frazer. I wonder if the Susan of this Blog was named after her?<\/p>\n<p>Here are five Frazer Brothers in Boston, Massachusetts:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/FrazersBrothersColor.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14139\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/FrazersBrothersColor.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"658\" height=\"800\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/FrazersBrothersColor.jpg 658w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/FrazersBrothersColor-247x300.jpg 247w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 658px) 100vw, 658px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Susan&#8217;s grandfather William is sitting on the right next to my great-grandfather James Archibald Frazer. James was a year and a month older than William.<\/p>\n<h2>My DNA Match with Susan<\/h2>\n<p>Here is where I match Susan:<\/p>\n<h3><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-11_00_27-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14151\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-11_00_27-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"450\" height=\"559\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-11_00_27-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png 450w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-11_00_27-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-242x300.png 242w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><\/h3>\n<p>I should note that MyHeritage has some matches that are under 7 cM. The first match on Chromosome 1 and the match on Chromosome 5 are in this category. Matches under 7 cM can have a lower probability of being actual matches.<\/p>\n<h3>Painting Susan&#8217;s DNA<\/h3>\n<p>I use an online program called DNA Painter to map out my DNA matches when I can identify the common ancestors. DNA Painter has a default of 7 cM for what it paints, so these two segments would not be painted under normal circumstances. Here is the paternal side of my existing Chromosome 1:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-11_13_07-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joel.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14152\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-11_13_07-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joel.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"570\" height=\"48\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-11_13_07-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joel.png 570w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-11_13_07-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joel-300x25.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 570px) 100vw, 570px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>The green part is already taken up by Hartley matches. That means that the small match that I have with Susan on Chromosome 1 cannot be real. The maroon section is a match I have with Kat, so that represents Frazer\/McMaster.<\/p>\n<p>Here is my existing mapped Chromosome 5:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-11_15_11-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joel.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14153\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-11_15_11-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joel.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"429\" height=\"44\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-11_15_11-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joel.png 429w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-11_15_11-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joel-300x31.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 429px) 100vw, 429px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Again, my Chromosome map didn&#8217;t leave much room for Frazer matching. My siblings have different configurations, so they probably have better matches on Chromosomes 1 and 5. The small maroon match I have at the end of Chromosome 5 is with Brenda from position 173 M to 175 M. My match with Susan above is between 175 M and 177 M. I take that to mean that the match I have with Susan is real, but the reason that it is small is that it is clipped off on the end of the Chromosome. That means that I will want to add this match in.<\/p>\n<p>In order to paint Susan&#8217;s results onto my tree, I first download the matches. They look like this:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-11_23_30-Shared-DNA-segments-of-Joel-Hartley-and-Susan-marion-Wall.csv-Excel.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14154\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-11_23_30-Shared-DNA-segments-of-Joel-Hartley-and-Susan-marion-Wall.csv-Excel.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"512\" height=\"169\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-11_23_30-Shared-DNA-segments-of-Joel-Hartley-and-Susan-marion-Wall.csv-Excel.png 512w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-11_23_30-Shared-DNA-segments-of-Joel-Hartley-and-Susan-marion-Wall.csv-Excel-300x99.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 512px) 100vw, 512px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The Location numbers\u00a0are important. This shows what I was calling the position numbers above. So rounding off, Chromosome 5 starts off at 175 million and ends at 178 million.<\/p>\n<p>At DNA Painter, I choose paint a new match. Then I am changing the default from 7 to 6 cM:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-11_26_38-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joel.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14155\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-11_26_38-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joel.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"973\" height=\"343\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-11_26_38-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joel.png 973w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-11_26_38-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joel-300x106.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-11_26_38-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joel-768x271.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I copy the results into the blank space and save the information. I choose Frazer\/McMaster for the common ancestors.<\/p>\n<p>Next I have to delete the Chromosome 1 match as that doesn&#8217;t fit.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-11_31_45-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joel.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14157\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-11_31_45-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joel.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"710\" height=\"409\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-11_31_45-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joel.png 710w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-11_31_45-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joel-300x173.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 710px) 100vw, 710px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h4>Percent Painted<\/h4>\n<p>One thing I like to look at is my percent painted. This is overall:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-11_39_12-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joel.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14158\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-11_39_12-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joel.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"57\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-11_39_12-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joel.png 400w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-11_39_12-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joel-300x43.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This is just my paternal side:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-11_43_42-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joel.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14159\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-11_43_42-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joel.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"462\" height=\"66\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-11_43_42-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joel.png 462w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-11_43_42-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Joel-300x43.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 462px) 100vw, 462px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>My numbers are creeping up. In my Blog about Brenda, my overall percent painted went up from 41% to 42%. Now I am at 43%. When I was mapping Kat, she brought be up from 50% paternally mapped to 51%. Now I am at 52%.<\/p>\n<h3>More About Susan&#8217;s DNA<\/h3>\n<p>There are a lot of different directions I could go from her. I could look at my siblings&#8217; DNA matches to Susan. Or I could look at my cousin Paul&#8217;s matches to Susan. Or I could look at shared matches to Susan.<\/p>\n<h4>My Siblings and Susan<\/h4>\n<p>Here is how I matched Susan at MyHeritage:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-19_11_07-DNA-results-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14163\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-19_11_07-DNA-results-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"226\" height=\"125\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This is a pretty good match for a second cousin once removed. Actually, there is a new report out:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-19_16_40-Shared-cM-Project-Relationship-Chart.png-2420\u00d71300.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14164\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-19_16_40-Shared-cM-Project-Relationship-Chart.png-2420\u00d71300.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"398\" height=\"243\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-19_16_40-Shared-cM-Project-Relationship-Chart.png-2420\u00d71300.png 398w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-19_16_40-Shared-cM-Project-Relationship-Chart.png-2420\u00d71300-300x183.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 398px) 100vw, 398px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>122 cM is typical for a second cousin once removed. In my previous Blog, I mentioned my Frazer third cousin Karen. I didn&#8217;t match her at all which is within the possibilities but below the average of 73 cM.<\/p>\n<p>Here are how my other siblings match Susan:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Heidi &#8211; 202 cM<\/li>\n<li>Sharon &#8211; 143.5 cM<\/li>\n<li>Jon &#8211; 113.0 cM<\/li>\n<li>Lori &#8211; 154.0 cM<\/li>\n<li>Jim &#8211; 139.7<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>These are all above average &#8211; except for Jon.<\/p>\n<h4>My Second Cousin Once Removed Paul<\/h4>\n<p>I manage my cousin Paul&#8217;s DNA also. He has a huge match with Susan:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-19_26_41-DNA-results-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14165\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-19_26_41-DNA-results-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"213\" height=\"124\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This is about 200 cM above average. Susan is Paul&#8217;s top match at MyHeritage. As this is as good as it gets, let&#8217;s take a look:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-19_56_17-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14166\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-19_56_17-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"582\" height=\"566\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-19_56_17-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png 582w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-19_56_17-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-300x292.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 582px) 100vw, 582px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>All of Susan and Paul&#8217;s matches are between Chromosomes 1 and 15.<\/p>\n<h4>Painting Paul<\/h4>\n<p>Here is what I have for Paul so far:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-20_03_49-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Paul.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14167\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-20_03_49-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Paul.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"562\" height=\"623\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-20_03_49-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Paul.png 562w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-20_03_49-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Paul-271x300.png 271w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 562px) 100vw, 562px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I was only interested in Paul&#8217;s paternal side as that is where we match. Paul is about 12% painted on his paternal side. The key shows that George Frazer and Margaret McMaster DNA are in green. That is the DNA that Susan and Paul share.<\/p>\n<p>After I paint Susan&#8217;s matches to Paul&#8217;s profile, this is what I get:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-20_12_49-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Paul.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14168\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-20_12_49-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Paul.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"449\" height=\"44\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-20_12_49-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Paul.png 449w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-20_12_49-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Paul-300x29.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 449px) 100vw, 449px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>That is quite a jump.<\/p>\n<p>Here is Paul&#8217;s new profile:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-20_26_21-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Paul.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14169\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-20_26_21-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Paul.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"560\" height=\"649\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-20_26_21-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Paul.png 560w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-27-20_26_21-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Paul-259x300.png 259w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 560px) 100vw, 560px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h4>Some More DNA Detail<\/h4>\n<p>Susan and Paul have a huge match on Chromosome 7. Here is the detail:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-28-09_40_52-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14174\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-28-09_40_52-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1229\" height=\"85\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-28-09_40_52-Window.png 1229w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-28-09_40_52-Window-300x21.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-28-09_40_52-Window-1024x71.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-28-09_40_52-Window-768x53.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>There is another Susan who matches Paul there also, but a smaller match. Here is what happened:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-28-09_45_39-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14175\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-28-09_45_39-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1201\" height=\"691\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-28-09_45_39-Window.png 1201w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-28-09_45_39-Window-300x173.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-28-09_45_39-Window-1024x589.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-28-09_45_39-Window-768x442.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Susan, Susan and Paul (sorry left out Paul in the diagram above), get their Chromosome 7 DNA from James and Violet Frazer. However, because Paul and the Susan of this Blog share overlapping Chromosome 7 DNA, that DNA must have come from George Frazer and not Margaret McMaster. The one catch is that the three must triangulate. That means that the Susan in the yellow box needs to match the Susan in the blue box. I assume that to be true, but because these two Susans tested at different companies, I don&#8217;t know for sure.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ll do that in DNA Painter:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-28-09_53_55-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14176\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-28-09_53_55-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1058\" height=\"211\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-28-09_53_55-Window.png 1058w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-28-09_53_55-Window-300x60.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-28-09_53_55-Window-1024x204.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-28-09_53_55-Window-768x153.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h4><\/h4>\n<h4>A Complicated Chromosome 12 for Paul<\/h4>\n<h4><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-28-09_57_28-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14177\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-28-09_57_28-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1138\" height=\"265\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-28-09_57_28-Window.png 1138w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-28-09_57_28-Window-300x70.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-28-09_57_28-Window-1024x238.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-28-09_57_28-Window-768x179.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/h4>\n<p>On the left, Paul matches Emily and John. John has McMaster ancestry:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-28-10_12_23-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14178\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-28-10_12_23-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"720\" height=\"633\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-28-10_12_23-Window.png 720w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-28-10_12_23-Window-300x264.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 720px) 100vw, 720px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Paul and John from Australia show as 4th cousins.<\/p>\n<p>MyHeritage shows that Paul, Emily and John triangulate:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/3.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14180\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/3.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"572\" height=\"36\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/3.png 572w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/3-300x19.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 572px) 100vw, 572px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The yellow match is between John and Paul. The red match is between Paul and Emily. The circle around the two indicates triangulation, so John must match Emily. That also means that the DNA match that Emily and Paul share must have come from the McMaster side:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-29-08_05_40-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14181\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-29-08_05_40-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"624\" height=\"518\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-29-08_05_40-Window.png 624w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-29-08_05_40-Window-300x249.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 624px) 100vw, 624px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Even more speificially, the DNA came from James McMaster as opposed to his wife Fanny McMaster.<\/p>\n<h4>Joanna, Susan and BV<\/h4>\n<p>Here is another case where it would be helpful if Susan was to upload her DNA results to Gedmatch:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-29-08_18_37-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14182\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-29-08_18_37-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"161\" height=\"72\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I have written many Blogs about BV as the match is very interesting.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-29-08_20_53-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14183\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-29-08_20_53-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1250\" height=\"748\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-29-08_20_53-Window.png 1250w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-29-08_20_53-Window-300x180.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-29-08_20_53-Window-1024x613.png 1024w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-29-08_20_53-Window-768x460.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>BV and Paul have the common ancestors of William McMaster and Margaret Frazer. This couple left Ireland for Canada with their children. Except for Fanny McMaster. She stayed back in Kilmactranny Parish, County Sligo and married James McMaster.<\/p>\n<p>So where does Joanna fit in? It appears that she could triangulate with BV. Unfortunately, I don&#8217;t see BV at Gedmatch anymore, so she may not have re-signed when the ownership changed hands. My previous note says that Joanna does not triangulate with BV:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-29-08_53_52-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14184\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-29-08_53_52-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"336\" height=\"151\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-29-08_53_52-Window.png 336w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-29-08_53_52-Window-300x135.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 336px) 100vw, 336px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>That would probably make sense as Joanna has no known McMaster ancestors.<\/p>\n<h4>John, Keith and Susan<\/h4>\n<p>Here is an even more confusing situation on Chromosome 12:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-29-08_57_45-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14185\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-29-08_57_45-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"429\" height=\"140\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-29-08_57_45-Window.png 429w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-29-08_57_45-Window-300x98.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 429px) 100vw, 429px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Susan overlaps with both John and Keith. John and Keith both have McMaster ancestry, but from different lines. The other problem is that I have never figured out how the two McMaster Lines fit together. I did make a guess here:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-29-09_00_00-Window.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14186\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-29-09_00_00-Window.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"789\" height=\"594\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-29-09_00_00-Window.png 789w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-29-09_00_00-Window-300x226.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/2020-03-29-09_00_00-Window-768x578.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Probably the confusion is on the McMaster side. The matches John and Keith above are both McMaster matches.<\/p>\n<h2>Summary and Conclusion<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>I have been hoping for quite a while that one of my Irish Frazer relatives would have their tested. Susan did this and I am glad to see the results.<\/li>\n<li>Susan matches most of my family above average as well as my cousin Paul. This may partly be due to the extra McMaster connections<\/li>\n<li>I was able to narrow down from which of our ancestors our DNA matches come from based on matches with other Frazer or McMaster relatives.<\/li>\n<li>Some aspects of the DNA matching was confusing. This is probably due to the fact that we don&#8217;t know who all our ancestors were and the ones that we do know tended to marry relatives in several cases.<\/li>\n<li>If Susan uploads her DNA to Gedmatch, it would be possible to compare her matches with other Frazer relatives who tested at different companies.<\/li>\n<li>I like seeing how the old Frazer photos look with added color.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I recently heard via the Frazer Facebook Page that my cousin Susan had her DNA tested at MyHeritage. That was good news for me as I am interested in DNA &#8211; how it shows where we are related and how we share parts of our common ancestors. How Susan Fits In On the Frazer DNA &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2020\/03\/31\/new-dna-results-for-my-frazer-cousin-susan\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;New DNA Results for My Frazer Cousin Susan&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[46,6,21,39],"tags":[53],"class_list":["post-14146","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-dna-painter","category-frazer-dna","category-frazer-autosomal-dna","category-mcmaster","tag-cc"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14146","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=14146"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14146\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":14226,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14146\/revisions\/14226"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=14146"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=14146"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=14146"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}