{"id":12342,"date":"2019-11-07T12:56:40","date_gmt":"2019-11-07T12:56:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/?p=12342"},"modified":"2019-11-07T12:57:43","modified_gmt":"2019-11-07T12:57:43","slug":"my-wifes-theories-of-relativity-and-dna-painting","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2019\/11\/07\/my-wifes-theories-of-relativity-and-dna-painting\/","title":{"rendered":"My Wife&#8217;s Theories of Relativity and DNA Painting"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>My wife Marie has Butler, Ellis, Lefevre and\u00a0 Upshall. Butler is originally from Ireland, Ellis from PEI, LeFevre from Quebec and Upshall from Newfoundland. I have uplaoded Marie&#8217;s DNA results to MyHeritage. They have a utility called Theories of Relativity. This matches DNA with family trees. Once I get those connections, I can map Marie&#8217;s DNA using DNA Painter an online utility.<\/p>\n<h2>DNA Painter<\/h2>\n<p>I have already mapped quite a bit of Marie&#8217;s DNA here:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-07_29_23-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12343\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-07_29_23-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"846\" height=\"902\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-07_29_23-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie.png 846w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-07_29_23-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie-281x300.png 281w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-07_29_23-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie-768x819.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This shows that Marie is 30% painted or mapped. I&#8217;d like to improve this by looking at MyHeritage&#8217;s Theories.<\/p>\n<h2>Marie&#8217;s Theories of Relativity (TOR)<\/h2>\n<p>Marie&#8217;s top TOR is already mapped. That is Fred. Marie&#8217;s second TOR is Jo-Ann. Their common ancestors are Hopgood and Watson:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-07_34_04-Theory-of-Family-Relativity\u2122-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12344\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-07_34_04-Theory-of-Family-Relativity\u2122-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1220\" height=\"617\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-07_34_04-Theory-of-Family-Relativity\u2122-MyHeritage.png 1220w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-07_34_04-Theory-of-Family-Relativity\u2122-MyHeritage-300x152.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-07_34_04-Theory-of-Family-Relativity\u2122-MyHeritage-768x388.png 768w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-07_34_04-Theory-of-Family-Relativity\u2122-MyHeritage-1024x518.png 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Marie and Jo-Ann match here:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-07_37_53-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12345\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-07_37_53-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1018\" height=\"229\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-07_37_53-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png 1018w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-07_37_53-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-300x67.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-07_37_53-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-768x173.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I downloaded the details of this DNA match and entered them in at DNA Painter. I didn&#8217;t have these ancestors at DNA Painter, so I added them along with a new suggested color:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-07_40_18-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12346\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-07_40_18-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"703\" height=\"567\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-07_40_18-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie.png 703w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-07_40_18-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie-300x242.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 703px) 100vw, 703px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>When I do this, I notice a potential problem:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-07_43_15-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12347\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-07_43_15-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1256\" height=\"406\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-07_43_15-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie.png 1256w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-07_43_15-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie-300x97.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-07_43_15-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie-768x248.png 768w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-07_43_15-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie-1024x331.png 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This indicates that Jo-Ann&#8217;s match is bumping into Sarah&#8217;s match. That makes me suspect that I have mapped Sarah wrong. Sarah may have Hopgood\/Watson ancestors also that I didn&#8217;t notice.<\/p>\n<h3>Another Look at Sarah<\/h3>\n<p>Sarah&#8217;s results are at AncestryDNA and Gedmatch. This is how I have Sarah at Ancestry:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-07_56_51-Relationship-to-S.N..png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12348\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-07_56_51-Relationship-to-S.N..png\" alt=\"\" width=\"545\" height=\"889\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-07_56_51-Relationship-to-S.N..png 545w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-07_56_51-Relationship-to-S.N.-184x300.png 184w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 545px) 100vw, 545px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>That means that there is a mix-up somewhere. The reason I suspect it is on Sarah&#8217;s side is because the DNA match for Marie and Sarah is high for a 4th cousin once removed. I don&#8217;t want to try to fix this at this time, so I&#8217;ll just note the discrepancy. The problem is that one shared segment should represent one shared common ancestor. In this case it represents two.<\/p>\n<p>Even with the overlaps, Jo-Ann brings up Marie&#8217;s mapped DNA to 31%.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-08_10_48-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12349\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-08_10_48-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"715\" height=\"916\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-08_10_48-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie.png 715w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-08_10_48-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie-234x300.png 234w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 715px) 100vw, 715px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h3>Caroline and the LeFevre\/Boure Line<\/h3>\n<p>Next is Wallace who I already mapped. Then Caroline. TOR shows a common ancestor with this couple:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-08_14_46-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12350\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-08_14_46-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"712\" height=\"602\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-08_14_46-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png 712w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-08_14_46-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-300x254.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 712px) 100vw, 712px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This tree is also not without its problems. How could Charles Lefebvre be born in 1891 and have a daughter born 1870? This Ancestry Tree from Marie&#8217;s cousin has a Charles:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-08_23_14-Family-Trees-Ancestry.com_.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12351\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-08_23_14-Family-Trees-Ancestry.com_.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"492\" height=\"514\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-08_23_14-Family-Trees-Ancestry.com_.png 492w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-08_23_14-Family-Trees-Ancestry.com_-287x300.png 287w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 492px) 100vw, 492px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>When I checked details on Caroline&#8217;s tree, it said that Charles was born before 1891. So I&#8217;ll say Caroline&#8217;s tree is OK. Caroline doesn&#8217;t add much new DNA, but doesn&#8217;t conflict with other DNA<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-08_37_28-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12352\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-08_37_28-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"981\" height=\"158\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-08_37_28-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie.png 981w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-08_37_28-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie-300x48.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-08_37_28-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie-768x124.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Caroline overlaps with orange and pink but those are also LeFevre matches from more recent generations:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-08_41_03-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12353\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-08_41_03-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"248\" height=\"156\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h3>Pierre -Luc and an Older Pouliot Ancestor<\/h3>\n<p>Here is how MyHeritage shows the connection:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-08_48_27-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12354\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-08_48_27-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"697\" height=\"700\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-08_48_27-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png 697w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-08_48_27-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-150x150.png 150w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-08_48_27-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-300x300.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-08_48_27-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-100x100.png 100w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 697px) 100vw, 697px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>My suspicious side says that there could be other ancestral connections, but my lazy side says, put this in as is. Pierre-Luc&#8217;s DNA doesn&#8217;t bump into anyone that it shouldn&#8217;t bump into.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-08_53_58-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12355\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-08_53_58-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"702\" height=\"236\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-08_53_58-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie.png 702w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-08_53_58-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie-300x101.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 702px) 100vw, 702px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Pierre-Luc bumps into Joe and Patricia but they have common ancestors with Marie of LeFevre and Pouliot. That means that Joe and Patricia&#8217;s pink segments above Pierre are most likely Pouliot DNA. That means that if I wanted to get fancy, I could re-assign those two Joe and Patricia segments to Emma Pouliot. But I won&#8217;t.<\/p>\n<h3>The Problem with Daniel: Too Many Ancestors<\/h3>\n<p>Here is how MyHeritage shows Daniel:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_00_41-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12356\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_00_41-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"710\" height=\"634\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_00_41-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png 710w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_00_41-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-300x268.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 710px) 100vw, 710px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>But also like this:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_02_13-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12357\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_02_13-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"695\" height=\"598\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_02_13-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png 695w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_02_13-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-300x258.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 695px) 100vw, 695px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>DNA Painter may help figure out which DNA goes where. First, I&#8217;ll put Daniel in ambiguously:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_07_58-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12358\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_07_58-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"818\" height=\"468\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_07_58-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie.png 818w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_07_58-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie-300x172.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_07_58-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie-768x439.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here are the hairs we are trying to split:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_10_49-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12359\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_10_49-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"448\" height=\"370\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_10_49-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_.png 448w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_10_49-Pedigree-View-Ancestry.com_-300x248.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 448px) 100vw, 448px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>On Chromosome 2, we still can&#8217;t tell where Daniel belongs:<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_16_15-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12361\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_16_15-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"722\" height=\"510\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_16_15-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie.png 722w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_16_15-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie-300x212.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 722px) 100vw, 722px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>First I had to change Daniel&#8217;s color to green so he would show up better. In order to tell where Daniel belongs, we need an older match. The pink, orange and blue matches are too recent. That means that I entered Daniel correctly as Methot or LeFevre. For brevity, I left out the spouses. Sorry, spouses.<\/p>\n<p>Daniel&#8217;s DNA matches with Marie were just under the limit of 7 cM, so they didn&#8217;t get painted:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_21_04-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12362\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_21_04-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"466\" height=\"28\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_21_04-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png 466w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_21_04-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-300x18.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 466px) 100vw, 466px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h3>Irma with PEI Ancestry<\/h3>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_23_40-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12363\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_23_40-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"693\" height=\"719\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_23_40-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png 693w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_23_40-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-289x300.png 289w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 693px) 100vw, 693px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Matches on Chromosomes 2 and 3 will be too small to paint:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_24_41-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12364\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_24_41-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"944\" height=\"127\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_24_41-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png 944w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_24_41-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-300x40.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_24_41-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-768x103.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Painting this brings up more problems:<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_32_28-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12365\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_32_28-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"550\" height=\"193\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_32_28-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie.png 550w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_32_28-DNA-Painter-_-Profile-Marie-300x105.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here we have some bad overlaps between Ellis, Hopgood and MacArthur. One may be explained in that Irma has a different path to Ellis:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_34_07-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12366\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_34_07-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"684\" height=\"714\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_34_07-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png 684w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_34_07-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-287x300.png 287w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 684px) 100vw, 684px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The Hopgood segment was one we just mapped from Jo-Ann &#8211; but with reservations.<\/p>\n<p>Here is another path for Jo-Ann:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_37_36-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12367\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_37_36-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"730\" height=\"519\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_37_36-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png 730w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_37_36-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-300x213.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 730px) 100vw, 730px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here is a more likely, but slightly more distant relationship:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_38_20-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-12368\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_38_20-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"699\" height=\"707\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_38_20-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png 699w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_38_20-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-297x300.png 297w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/2019-11-06-09_38_20-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-100x100.png 100w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 699px) 100vw, 699px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3>The Problem with Marie&#8217;s DNA Matches<\/h3>\n<p>Marie has four grandparents as do we all:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Ellis from PEI &#8211; Island genealogy and intermarriage, but the records are pretty good<\/li>\n<li>Upshall from Newfoundland &#8211; More intermarriage like in PEI, but the records are not as good or missing<\/li>\n<li>Butler from Ireland &#8211; No known intermarriage but very few relatives who have tested or posted genealogies<\/li>\n<li>LeFevre from Quebec &#8211; Very good genealogies but a lot of intermarriage<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2>Summary and Observations<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Marie has confusing intermarriage issues on three out of four sides of her tree. This makes analyzing her genetic genealogy difficult<\/li>\n<li>The further back the match is, the more possibility there is that the DNA could represent multiple sets of common ancestors<\/li>\n<li>DNA Painter points out some of these issues. However, it is possible that DNA Painter could also sort out from which ancestors these DNA matches come from where there is more than one possibility.<\/li>\n<li>I may come back to this later and try to sort this out.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>My wife Marie has Butler, Ellis, Lefevre and\u00a0 Upshall. Butler is originally from Ireland, Ellis from PEI, LeFevre from Quebec and Upshall from Newfoundland. I have uplaoded Marie&#8217;s DNA results to MyHeritage. They have a utility called Theories of Relativity. This matches DNA with family trees. Once I get those connections, I can map Marie&#8217;s &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2019\/11\/07\/my-wifes-theories-of-relativity-and-dna-painting\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;My Wife&#8217;s Theories of Relativity and DNA Painting&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[26,1,13,34,52],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12342"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=12342"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12342\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":12387,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12342\/revisions\/12387"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=12342"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=12342"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=12342"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}