{"id":10013,"date":"2019-03-07T18:12:11","date_gmt":"2019-03-07T18:12:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/?p=10013"},"modified":"2019-11-06T12:24:33","modified_gmt":"2019-11-06T12:24:33","slug":"my-moms-myheritage-theories-of-family-relativity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2019\/03\/07\/my-moms-myheritage-theories-of-family-relativity\/","title":{"rendered":"My Mom&#8217;s MyHeritage Theories of Family Relativity"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>My mom has two Theories of Family Relativity (ToFRs) at MyHeritage (MH). One is on her father&#8217;s German\/Latvian side and one is on her mother&#8217;s Philadelphia side. Let&#8217;s take a look.<\/p>\n<h2>Mom and Wolf: A German\/Latvian Match<\/h2>\n<p>My mom&#8217;s dad was not Latvian, but was a German who lived in Latvia. I had written<a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2018\/04\/26\/wolfs-dna-and-our-hirschenhof-ancestors\/\"> a Blog on Wolf here<\/a>. In that Blog, I had noted many German-Latvian connections, so I was interested to see what MH&#8217;s ToFR would show.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-08_15_46-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-10014\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-08_15_46-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"722\" height=\"721\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-08_15_46-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png 722w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-08_15_46-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-150x150.png 150w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-08_15_46-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-300x300.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-08_15_46-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-100x100.png 100w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 722px) 100vw, 722px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>For some reason, in my Blog, I had a heading for Biedermann, but under it, I show a connection to Biedenbinder. It looks like I mixed up my Biedermann and Biedenbinder. I did mention problems in the Biedermann line later in my Blog. However, Wolf has two Biedermann Lines and the one above is not the one I mention in my Blog.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-08_32_36-Pedigree-tree-Von-Kumberg-Web-Site-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-10015\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-08_32_36-Pedigree-tree-Von-Kumberg-Web-Site-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"577\" height=\"445\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-08_32_36-Pedigree-tree-Von-Kumberg-Web-Site-MyHeritage.png 577w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-08_32_36-Pedigree-tree-Von-Kumberg-Web-Site-MyHeritage-300x231.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 577px) 100vw, 577px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Wolf has an impressive tree. The four in the first row are Wolf&#8217;s maternal great-grandparents. Anna Biedermann is shown above in the ToFR. The problem with Elisabeth is that she would have been 15 when her son was born. However, I found a possible birth record for Elisabeth that showed she could have been born in 1854.<\/p>\n<h3>Do My Records Match with MH Records on Biedermann?<\/h3>\n<p>First, it appears that MH agrees with Wolf&#8217;s tree &#8211; or more likely accepted his tree.<\/p>\n<p>Here is my mother&#8217;s tree at MH:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-09_02_05-Pedigree-tree-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-10017\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-09_02_05-Pedigree-tree-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"817\" height=\"139\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-09_02_05-Pedigree-tree-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png 817w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-09_02_05-Pedigree-tree-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-300x51.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-09_02_05-Pedigree-tree-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-768x131.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>In the ToFR, Jacobine Lutke is shown as private for some reason. Then ToFR shows Anna E.J. Biedermann as the mother of Jacobine. I have her as the mother-in-law of Jacobine! Now I don&#8217;t feel so bad about mixing up Biedermann and Biedenbinder in my previous Blog.<\/p>\n<h4>A Possible Fix for MH<\/h4>\n<p>If I see it right, if I replace Jacobine with her husband Philipp Gangnus on my mother&#8217;s side of the tree, this should work out.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-09_14_46-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-10018\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-09_14_46-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"253\" height=\"748\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-09_14_46-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel.png 253w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-09_14_46-Moms-Ancestry-Testing-Chart.xlsx-Excel-101x300.png 101w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 253px) 100vw, 253px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I have the two common ancestors in my Ancestry Tree, but not in my MH tree, so I will say that I agree with this tree.<\/p>\n<h2>A Gladys &#8211; Wolf Common Ancestor Summary<\/h2>\n<p>I found three common ancestors in my previous Blog and MH found another one (Biedermann):<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-09_29_07-Book1-Excel.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-10019\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-09_29_07-Book1-Excel.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"437\" height=\"106\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-09_29_07-Book1-Excel.png 437w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-09_29_07-Book1-Excel-300x73.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 437px) 100vw, 437px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>You have a lot of common ancestors with someone when you need a spreadsheet to keep track of them all. I should note that it is possible that Biedermann is in there twice due to Wolf having two Biedermann Lines. Coincidentally (or not) Wolf matches my Mom at 5 segments at MH:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-09_49_23-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-10021\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-09_49_23-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"625\" height=\"425\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-09_49_23-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png 625w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-09_49_23-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-300x204.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 625px) 100vw, 625px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Three of the five segments are in the 6 cM range.<\/p>\n<h3>MH Redeems Itself for My German Latvian Biedermann Ancestor<\/h3>\n<p>I had not previously noticed the highlighted hyperlink shown below:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-09_36_20-Theory-of-Family-Relativity\u2122-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-10020\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-09_36_20-Theory-of-Family-Relativity\u2122-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"920\" height=\"168\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-09_36_20-Theory-of-Family-Relativity\u2122-MyHeritage.png 920w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-09_36_20-Theory-of-Family-Relativity\u2122-MyHeritage-300x55.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-09_36_20-Theory-of-Family-Relativity\u2122-MyHeritage-768x140.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This purple hyperlink leads to Theory 2 which agrees with my orange rendering above. Theory 2 was based on 5 Paths. That just means that 5 trees agreed with Theory 2. There was only 1 Path (or Tree) for Theory 1. I&#8217;m not sure why MH didn&#8217;t put the 5 Path Theory as Theory 1.\u00a0 Note to self: Pay attention to purple hyperlinks at MH in the future.<\/p>\n<h2>Mom and Annette: The Philadelphia Connection<\/h2>\n<p>Let&#8217;s hope there are no bumps in the road for this ToFR.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-09_56_07-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-10022\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-09_56_07-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"785\" height=\"605\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-09_56_07-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage.png 785w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-09_56_07-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-300x231.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-09_56_07-Review-DNA-Match-Hartley-Family-Site-23andMe-MyHeritage-768x592.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>One cool thing I notice is that Gladys and Annette&#8217;s mothers were both born in 1900. Another interesting thing is htat Annette&#8217;s grandfather is George Washington Slater. On Gladys&#8217; side, Mary Baker was married to George Washington Lentz. It took me a long time and a lot of work to get a last name for my mom&#8217;s Mary. I just checked Ancestry and noticed this record that someone posted:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-10_02_53-Mary-nee-Baker-Lentz-death-certificate.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-10023\" src=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-10_02_53-Mary-nee-Baker-Lentz-death-certificate.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"896\" height=\"821\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-10_02_53-Mary-nee-Baker-Lentz-death-certificate.png 896w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-10_02_53-Mary-nee-Baker-Lentz-death-certificate-300x275.png 300w, http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/2019-03-07-10_02_53-Mary-nee-Baker-Lentz-death-certificate-768x704.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This record gives the name of both of Mary Baker&#8217;s parents. I may have already had this record. I have mentioned Annette previously <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2018\/09\/18\/my-closest-dna-match-at-myheritage-with-unknown-connection\/\">in this Blog<\/a>.<\/p>\n<h2>Summary and Conclusions<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>My mother has two ToFRs. They both proved to be valid.<\/li>\n<li>My mother&#8217;s German Latvian ToFR appeared to be a problem. That was until I found a hyperlink that showed a more reasonable version of herToFR.<\/li>\n<li>The ToFR was helpful as I had missed the Biedermann common ancestors with Wolf the first time I looked at the connection. I was focusing on only one of two of Wolf&#8217;s Biedermann Lines.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>My mom has two Theories of Family Relativity (ToFRs) at MyHeritage (MH). One is on her father&#8217;s German\/Latvian side and one is on her mother&#8217;s Philadelphia side. Let&#8217;s take a look. Mom and Wolf: A German\/Latvian Match My mom&#8217;s dad was not Latvian, but was a German who lived in Latvia. I had written a &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/2019\/03\/07\/my-moms-myheritage-theories-of-family-relativity\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;My Mom&#8217;s MyHeritage Theories of Family Relativity&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1,52],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10013"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=10013"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10013\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":10026,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10013\/revisions\/10026"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=10013"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=10013"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.jmhartley.com\/HBlog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=10013"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}